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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: thenagual]
#26695204 - 05/25/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mine got into the low 60s a couple night and were ok, but the next couple months are gonna be interesting.
Starting by the end of the week it’s gonna be 105-110 everyday, so I’m for sure gonna have to have serious ac going.
It might work out though, over winter part of my strategy was having the space heater blow across the top of the tub to stir the air up so I can prob do the same with ac.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#26695223 - 05/25/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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FYI, Blue Helix and I are both experiencing this and need some insights.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26695198
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] 1
#26695233 - 05/25/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Urinating on it? That's not gonna end well. TOO many salts for mycelium! Unless you plan to let it leech by some rains. Then it could work.
I’ve been reading and watching videos -
The urine helps create nitrogen in the compost pile .
This straw after the cover will be removed and it will be rained on - turned many times - leached and sun dried .
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Urinating on it? That's not gonna end well. TOO many salts for mycelium! Unless you plan to let it leech by some rains. Then it could work.
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Urinating on it? That's not gonna end well. TOO many salts for mycelium! Unless you plan to let it leech by some rains. Then it could work.
This straw pile won’t be ready for a couple months .
It’s going to get shredded - decompose , turned many times , Leachex by rain , sun dried .
I ultimately plan on mixing it with 200lbs aged horse manure, couple huge bags of verm, a lot of coir .
I’m trying to make a super substrate for the year for my indoor adventures and my vegetable /herb garden .
I’m sure the salts will be long gone by then .
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26695242 - 05/25/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Asura said: FYI, Blue Helix and I are both experiencing this and need some insights.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26695198
Hey Asura .
I don’t have a lot of pan cyan experience but that last grow I did had those blobs . One of the trays had a lot of mycelium that ate the casing layer on one side - I thought it would over lay - I hit it with my fan after I saw this and didn’t have an issue .
My new one from the same agar/lc has them too - I haven’t noticed any I’ll effects though .
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: thenagual]
#26695246 - 05/25/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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@thenagual maybe hop over on that thread and share your experience. I don't think BH monitors this thread. We're both trying to collect details.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26695252 - 05/25/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hate to double post but don’t want to fix up my new trays . I only got one answer and the guy hasn’t done pans in a while so I wanted a few different opinions .
I made a batch of casing mix and after realized the miraclegro peat moss I used has those little nitrogen pearls in it . From my understanding the casing layer should be nutrient free .
Have you guys used these with pan cyans?
Worst case I could just use this mix later with my substrate mix - is it ok to use or not good .
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: thenagual]
#26695332 - 05/25/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's fine, when people say the casing should be nutrient free they mean with regard to carbohydrates, protein, etc. Those fertilizer beads have plant nutrients which might support the growth of algae but I've never seen or heard of algae contams.
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I saw people talking about manure. I've found the Scott's brand manure/humus mix is pretty good and supports many full pinsets. Same stuff Macmerdin recommends in his pan cakes tek. It's very dense, so you have to mix it with a lot of straw/coir/verm etc but otherwise it works just as good as high quality hmanure ime. THat said, it probably varies from region to region and year to yeear so ymmv. I'd still prefer to get hmanure from the farm but I live in da city now in a horse-free zone.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hans Wermhat]
#26695384 - 05/25/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh there is poo all over tons of cow and horses but getting it to the right texture is the hard part. You want it specifically treated and most ppl don’t care in terms of fertilizer. So now I have a giant pile of horse and cow manure in the backyard and I mix it every day and let it sit in the sun after a few weeks it will start to get fluffy and will be prime for using
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: thenagual]
#26695435 - 05/25/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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thenagual said: I hate to double post but don’t want to fix up my new trays . I only got one answer and the guy hasn’t done pans in a while so I wanted a few different opinions .
I made a batch of casing mix and after realized the miraclegro peat moss I used has those little nitrogen pearls in it . From my understanding the casing layer should be nutrient free .
Have you guys used these with pan cyans?
Worst case I could just use this mix later with my substrate mix - is it ok to use or not good .
I use that stuff. In the green bag right? I hate those little pearls because I always think it's a pin popping up. They were out of it when I went to home depot so I got a bag of pure peat, but it's long fiber. I will process it first.
Speaking of peat, I am about to start an experiment where I add a wetting agent to my casing. This is basically a tbsp of dish soap to a gallon of water. I'll use this when I hand water. Just want to see if I can get that casing "wetter"
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26695484 - 05/25/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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huh thats an interesting idea. do u think it could do anything to knock the ph of the casing out of whack??
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
#26695542 - 05/25/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used some dish soap and bleach in my last pan cyan grow that had a sick yield - worked great - I didn’t water my pans once during fruiting .
Just misted the first two days .
I did 1/3 cup of bleach and like tsp of blue soap to 12 gallons water . Soaked the straw in that .
Should work good for the casing too .
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
#26695543 - 05/25/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have no idea. I guess I could mix up a batch and test with the probe. I have so many trays running with different experiments right now that I can afford to test it.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26695552 - 05/25/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I love this thing - just got it last month . It’s one of the original models of the Sous vide machine - from when they were first invented in hotels- this thing is probably as old as me .
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26695557 - 05/25/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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thenagual said: I hate to double post but don’t want to fix up my new trays . I only got one answer and the guy hasn’t done pans in a while so I wanted a few different opinions .
I made a batch of casing mix and after realized the miraclegro peat moss I used has those little nitrogen pearls in it . From my understanding the casing layer should be nutrient free .
Have you guys used these with pan cyans?
Worst case I could just use this mix later with my substrate mix - is it ok to use or not good .
I use that stuff. In the green bag right? I hate those little pearls because I always think it's a pin popping up. They were out of it when I went to home depot so I got a bag of pure peat, but it's long fiber. I will process it first.
Speaking of peat, I am about to start an experiment where I add a wetting agent to my casing. This is basically a tbsp of dish soap to a gallon of water. I'll use this when I hand water. Just want to see if I can get that casing "wetter" 
Yea it’s the green bag . I just can’t remember what kind I used last - I think it was the same one - but I was drinking so I must have missed the pearls in there .
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: thenagual]
#26696282 - 05/26/20 05:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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thenagual said: I love this thing - just got it last month . It’s one of the original models of the Sous vide machine - from when they were first invented in hotels- this thing is probably as old as me .

what exactly are u doing with that??
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
#26696302 - 05/26/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like pasteurizing bags of sub.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ModularMind]
#26696487 - 05/26/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ya but how do u know the internal temp is correct cuz il promise u that just cuz it says 165 on the readout dont mean its 165 in the middle of the bags. i know when im doin my shit the temp around it and the temp inside of it are 2 totally different things
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
#26696518 - 05/26/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you leave it in long enough the core temp will hit 165. You can use a sous vide to slow cook raw meat because the temperature does eventually equalize.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: metaphoric]
#26696529 - 05/26/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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well i just know what ive experienced and it seems like the core temp was always different but hey if its workn for ya thats all that matters. i know i have used slow cookers b4 and i had to keep playin with the temp setting to get the core temp rite and then when i would the outter temps would b too high. so in the end i just went back to using jars on the stove
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
#26696555 - 05/26/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've never used them for cultivation, only culinary, but sous vides kick ass and blow slow cookers out of the water.
My guess is that since slow cookers are much smaller they have a harder time maintaining consistent temps over long periods of time - but that's just a guess
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