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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26613402 - 04/19/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Pans have thrown me up ur there harder than anything At high doses it comes in waves but during those wave peaks it’s like you’re being blasted through eternity at 1,000,000 miles an hour fully immersive like DMT the only reason I say it Throws me hardest is because that lasts for hours and in between the waves when you come back right before you fall away again is like going over the hump in a roller coaster there is nothing like it


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26613406 - 04/19/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ya absolutely agree il see if i can find some pics from there the visuals were killer and i could only imagine that place on pans


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620] * 1
    #26613417 - 04/19/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

here imagine eatin a nice 2 gram pan dose here


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26613420 - 04/19/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck eating it man it would be too much.

We blended it then boiled it for like 7 hours strained the crap out and kept it on low heat til it was like a cup of liquid. Still the most disgusting thing ever. Kinda like stomach acid soap and vodka.

Did you puke on the peyote?? That’s the other good thing with sp if you cut the core out there’s no nausea.

Yeah badlands looks dope. We usually did Joshua tree or Death Valley. Or the park Down the street.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
    #26613426 - 04/19/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

never been to the tree but its on the list and yes puked my ass off on the peyote was fucking terrible for a lil bit but then it was just amazing. but i really would like to get back out there with pans tho. i would like to do that or the tree within the next year actually.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26613431 - 04/19/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah man I was so stoked when I found out that a couple of the darkest spots on the planet are within a few hours drive of me.

The Milky Way is so bad ass.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
    #26613448 - 04/19/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

fuck ya it is i wish i could see it whenever i wanted. im in chicago area man im lucky if i can see the big dipper with all the light pollution around these parts lol.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620] * 2
    #26613611 - 04/19/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26613857 - 04/19/20 08:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

thats a big ass greenhouse tho jake👍👍


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26613863 - 04/19/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

How many plants does it take to maintain a daily Kratom habit?

I never got into it but I remember seeing some stuff claiming to be like 20x tincture or something so I’m assuming straight leaf isn’t very strong.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26614415 - 04/20/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just a word of warning, although I'm sure it's not needed, over 2g can get a bit scary. I had over 3 on Saturday...classic mistake of thinking it wasn't having an effect after an hour and eating a load more before falling unconscious for an hour or two (only found this out the next day when I was told, I thought I just lay down for a moment) then becoming one with the whole universe/Tao and all creation and destruction, life and death and all the power and responsibility that came with it...it was a bit much for my poor monkey brain and I had to ride it out. One good lesson to come from it was that all thoughts are real as much as the material reality and I should be careful about being resentful to others as it causes consequences.

Sorry, I know it's not a thread for trip reports, but just wanted to offer caution to new pan growers like me...and I did lemon tek, but my body was just slow to metabolize.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh] * 1
    #26614454 - 04/20/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds similar to some of my trips, mullugh. I saw how we build reality moment by moment as
consciousness arises and how we must choose not only "right action" but "right thought" in
order to be "in the light".

These pan trips have been pretty life changing. Another aspect of them was that they were so
intense it was like I was being broken to my base components and the beginning of the trip
to the peak was about putting myself back together and deciding on what that was going to look
like.

Thanks for reporting in. I wish more people would do some in depth pan reports.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 1
    #26614488 - 04/20/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Sounds similar to some of my trips, mullugh. I saw how we build reality moment by moment as
consciousness arises and how we must choose not only "right action" but "right thought" in
order to be "in the light".

These pan trips have been pretty life changing. Another aspect of them was that they were so
intense it was like I was being broken to my base components and the beginning of the trip
to the peak was about putting myself back together and deciding on what that was going to look
like.

Thanks for reporting in. I wish more people would do some in depth pan reports.




Cheers Asura. That's interesting to read you have had the same realization and it resonates with the Vedic/Hindu teachings about karma ... I'm more convinced than ever that the writers of the Bhagavad Gita took pans as it was just like when Krishna shows Arjuna Brahman the other night...it was like Holy crap that's terrifying and awe inspiring and I think I've had enough now... I asked to defer responsibility on a number of occasions for the life and death stuff, but kept using access to try to send out peaceful vibrations to everyone in the unconscious realm. Another thing I kept saying (as it was a kind of dialogue with the Tao) was 'everything is important'... As in every thought, movement, decision...the antidote to nihilism. It was life changing.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #26614736 - 04/20/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lol anytime I have a real strong trip I alway think it’s not working at first. That’s how I know it’s gonna be good.

Took a few times of re dosing and being way too high before I caught on though.

I can’t even imagine 3g of lemon tek pans.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26614804 - 04/20/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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How many plants does it take to maintain a daily Kratom habit?

I never got into it but I remember seeing some stuff claiming to be like 20x tincture or something so I’m assuming straight leaf isn’t very strong.




You know I’m not exactly sure I don’t take it every day I would say if you had six or seven decent size plants you could harvest on rotation enough to keep you well. My intention is not for long term use. I want to develop a all natural detox med primarily from CORDY and kratom. Something that will mask the withdrawal symptoms while you go through your detox. Now that I have everything it’s time to start testing Proto types. I had put myself back on Suboxone months ago so I would have a guinea pig this is gonna be fun lol


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26614992 - 04/20/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Jake, I've just heard this from a friend, but he says he used Psilo in the past to help people against opiate WD. He says that when people in WDs took it, it instantly went away.

I have tried to google similar experiences, but to my surprise there is nothing to be found. I don't think he is lying either.

Just a thought. Dont know why I am even telling you, just woke up (pretty confused lol).


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26615017 - 04/20/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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here imagine eatin a nice 2 gram pan dose here






Awesome pics man....

Off pan-track completely (sorry!!)but for those nightowls interested in another mother nature spectacle-keep a eye out in skies tonight and tomorrow....Lyrids meteor shower will be in action &visible in both Northern and Southern Hemisphere


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    #26615029 - 04/20/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Jake, I've just heard this from a friend, but he says he used Psilo in the past to help people against opiate WD. He says that when people in WDs took it, it instantly went away.

I have tried to google similar experiences, but to my surprise there is nothing to be found. I don't think he is lying either.

Just a thought. Dont know why I am even telling you, just woke up (pretty confused lol).



Oh I strongly disagree wow in with drawl the worst thing you can do is take a DMT like substance. For me and intensifies all the negative affects of the withdrawal even compounding depression.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26615123 - 04/20/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lol I’m with you there, tripping while sick sounds miserable. I had a friend do the ibogaine in Mexico thing and that’s the first thing I brought up. He said he was expecting it to be horrible but then the first effects were withdrawals fading before the trip ramped up.

I’m on methadone and I have noticed microdosing when I cut my dose seems to make it easier.

Normally I have to edible myself into oblivion to sleep for a few days but when I tried microdosing it wasn’t that bad. Could be placebo too.

I’ve still never tried kratom, around the time it got popular I learned that Imodium also keeps you well so that was my safety net.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26615124 - 04/20/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

i agree with jake completely

i shot dope and lots of it everyday for 15yrs str8 and before that had a horrible oxy habit and there is no fuckin way in hell anyone in full blown real withdrawl would ever say that psilocybin took it away. it would make it so horrible death would be a better outcome. and i wouldnt wish that experience on anyone.

now on the other hand i was a tripping freak in my youth b4 opiates and i managed to het my hands on a qtr of some good cubes from a friend. it was the first trip in many many years and i ate the whole thing and had such a mind altering experience that it literally showed me wtf i was doing to myself and everyone around me. i went down to the methadone clinic the next day and was dosing on methadone the day after that. this was 3 n a half years ago now and i have been dope free since then and am almost all the way off the methadone now. so i fully believe in psilocybin for addiction therapy as a whole but in no way in hell is it anything that will provide any kind of relief at all for real withdrawl.

now when i say real withdrawl i mean like what i would go thru where your curled up in a ball on the bathroom floor shaking and shitting and puking nothing but green bile up on yourself and feeling like you have been thrown off a 10 story building onto concrete every 5 min. not what one might get from say a small vicodin habit or something similar. i mean it all sux but one is way worse than the other for sure.


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