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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
    #26520737 - 03/06/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

how potent r cincts??? ive never ate any i got a few wild prints but have not done anything with them yet


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
    #26520741 - 03/06/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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gonna try revive this Thai species.looks sorta thick like antillarum but has brown spores like foes and is about as potent as cinctulus, hoping to just get some germination from it and get it sequenced, grew it awhile back but didn't go anywhere with it once I realized It wasn't a cyan lol




Holy fuck that looks so alien! Never seen that before!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26520763 - 03/06/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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how potent r cincts??? ive never ate any i got a few wild prints but have not done anything with them yet



true cincs hover around the same as cubes. the ones found in grass aren't likely actually the same species and are very weak


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26521166 - 03/06/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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With those values Grim, about what time in between cycle do you get?

4 min on 15 min off kinds thing?




I have my inkbird set close to that these are my times, curious if it's close to grims times. I built my Martha to run regular humidifiers so it always stays close to a 30 min cycle time. I don't set mine according to time but I do keep track of how long everything takes.

I bought an infinite cycle timer and I have the fan at the bottom running 2min on/7min off right now which brings my evap time down to about ten min instead of 25. So I get around 3-4 cycles an hour now. But these are my times from my journal. I burnt my last tray setting the infinite cycle timer but once I got it my fruits were way better than before.



-I bought this fan but it blew too hard so I put a two liter bottle over the end to restrict flow a little. This cycles my air. I have it plugged into the infinite cycle timer.


update- I placed the old school humidifier back in the bottom with no water in it, it just runs constant and circulates drier air from the bottom and mixes it with the fog causing my rh to rise very fast. The fogger runs less which means I don't fill it twice a day and it has stopped flooding my pan trays.


-I have this fan running constant and it's position such that it pulls air from one level of vents on the Martha and it blows away pulling more air out of the next level of vents. Tried to capture the fog being pulled out but you can at least see the white residue on the fan from the mineral deposits in the fog.

↑↑↑main fan↑↑↑

-Times are now:
  79% rh>91%
5 min.   
(Fogger running)

  91%+
1:15 min.   
(Fogger stops and Rh increases slowly)

  92.5%
3min -peak.   
(Fan kicks on and Rh peaks around 93% for 3min)

  91%>79%
10 min.   
(Rh drops from 91>79%)


This is 10 min of evaporation time. The whole time this is happening you can see fresh air coming in the vents bc of the main fan pulling air out of the Martha. With the bottom fan running every 7 min it evaps faster when the fogger is off and it makes my rh rise faster if the fogger is on. I tried to make it happen frequent enough that it runs twice per cycle.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: spiritlands] * 3
    #26521213 - 03/06/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Excellent work spirit!
Yup that’s anout the intervals I run mine 10 & 3
Here are sum pan Jalisco almost ready


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: spiritlands]
    #26521328 - 03/06/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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gonna try revive this Thai species.looks sorta thick like antillarum but has brown spores like foes and is about as potent as cinctulus, hoping to just get some germination from it and get it sequenced, grew it awhile back but didn't go anywhere with it once I realized It wasn't a cyan lol



Wow those are very interesanting I wish you the best of luck on germination.

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With those values Grim, about what time in between cycle do you get?

4 min on 15 min off kinds thing?




I have my inkbird set close to that these are my times, curious if it's close to grims times. I built my Martha to run regular humidifiers so it always stays close to a 30 min cycle time. I don't set mine according to time but I do keep track of how long everything takes.

I bought an infinite cycle timer and I have the fan at the bottom running 2min on/7min off right now which brings my evap time down to about ten min instead of 25. So I get around 3-4 cycles an hour now. But these are my times from my journal. I burnt my last tray setting the infinite cycle timer but once I got it my fruits were way better than before.





Lookin good got some nice fat caps on those. I've been going through the headache of dialing in my martha this winter. Part of the issue is I have to run a space heater in the room to heat it to 74F... which lowers the humidity to the 20's. Bit of a mistake trying to grow pans in the winter in this climate, it's just too cold. But I got it to work eventually with the help of another humidifiers. My cycles are 30 sec on, 150 sec off. Shorter faster cycles which I like for cubes, and seems to work for pans okay enough so far. I've been thinking of getting one of those multi unit HOH foggers like a 5 or 6 head unit would be perfect


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hans Wermhat]
    #26521344 - 03/06/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Here's a Alabama tray. The pinset was okay and this would've been an excellent flush, except it got contammed with two patches of trich which forced me to harvest a day earlier than otherwise and toss it after just the first flush. Very unfortunate and these contams are really a headache this winter, ruining multiple pan trays so far. The spawn looked good and the bulk sub was good (used it for some cubies too), it seems like the contams just come in and germinated right on top of the pan myc like it wasn't even there. How the heck are you supposed to prevent that?  Also I have some tropicalis trays which finally pinned 9 days after casing... and by pinned I mean 1-2 pins per tray. I think Tropicalis might require higher temparatures because the spawn run was pretty slow too. Growh at 74-75F.






They seemed a little small but I like how neat and tight the clusters are. The biggest ones are a little over 3 inches tall and caps are a little over 1/2 in wide. There's a cap fusion in that fourth picture pans seem to do that often.

edit: one thing I noticed about Alabama is the stems don't seem to bruise as quickly as Australias do when cut. With Australia the stems bruised jet black within seconds (very trippy). I vaguely remember someone posted a table with the psilocin to psilocybin ratios in Pans from around the world and I think Australias had mostly psilocin with only a little bit psilocybin which explains why Australias bruised so fast (psilocin more reactive). The Alabamas must have more psilocybin than psilocin maybe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of that I'm going off of somthing I read months ago.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hans Wermhat]
    #26521504 - 03/07/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You're getting the hang of this Hans. Congrats! Hoping to get as far as that some day


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #26521524 - 03/07/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Very good job hans!!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26521672 - 03/07/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26521775 - 03/07/20 07:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks all for your input. Really appreciate it.

The problem with my setup is, that I have a mini-GH (2 tiers) and the wicking humidifier (at the bottom) seems to be too big for the setup:



When it's on all the time, my RH drops too fast, cause it blows the humidity out.
When it's off all the time, I have too little FAE and the fog takes longer to reach high RH.

I know I need to let it run during the fogging cycle, so the fog is distributed throughout the GH evenly. Currently I'm trying to let it only run together with the fogger.

I was of the impression, that you need high RH overall (~98%) but it seems, that this is too much for my setup. Leaving an empty tray in the GH with RH over 94% completely covers it in water droplets after 2-3 cycles. This is way too much. So I guess my peak RH will have to be at 94%.

According to your suggestions I'm going to let it drop to the mid 80ies (~85-89) before starting the next cycle again.

I'm still experimenting, but I have the feeling that I'm making progress. Now I just need to wait for the next sub to colonize and try again.

Sad that so much money and time has been blown out of the window with not a single pan pin. But that's the way most of us have to go, I guess...

Thanks again for all the input regarding this. Helps me a lot.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Prietenul]
    #26521872 - 03/07/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

well next round of pan jams in the works. i figured i aint gnna end up not having anything in the pipeline again like i just did with these bisp and sandose i put into fruit 5 days ago. i swear this has been so shitty just waiting for shit to put in the fc. so i when i was transfering all my cube cultures to tubes for storing longer term i decided to wake these bastards back up and make sure that i have something ready to fruit when the bisp and sandose r done.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26521979 - 03/07/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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well next round of pan jams in the works. i figured i aint gnna end up not having anything in the pipeline again like i just did with these bisp and sandose i put into fruit 5 days ago. i swear this has been so shitty just waiting for shit to put in the fc. so i when i was transfering all my cube cultures to tubes for storing longer term i decided to wake these bastards back up and make sure that i have something ready to fruit when the bisp and sandose r done.





I'm in the exact same situation right now :lol: Waiting for the damn myc to grow out. I'll also prepare more cultures to have some backup.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Prietenul]
    #26522190 - 03/07/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

ya im not letting this happen again. i just got in a space where i was done with cubes for awhile and while i was switching  over to pans i got caught up in agar work longer than i wanted and was left with nothing to fruit after the last of the cubes finished. now im playing the waiting game. i really need to move and get more space so i can set up a bigger growing area


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hans Wermhat]
    #26522210 - 03/07/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)


Hans, have you tried using an oil heater? That's what I'm using and it doesn't affect my humidity much in the Martha. It can dry out my monos tho. I have mine at 79°. I also have the Martha in a gh to help hold the heat in, idk if that makes a difference that's how I set it up when I started learning pans. It's just a smaller space to have to heat, the building my grow is in is in the 60s most of the time.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: spiritlands]
    #26522230 - 03/07/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I use an oil heater, too. I like it. Really safe which is good bc it's on 24/7.

@hans frigging nice, man. Your grows are getting better and better. Looks like
you are getting the "touch".

@prie, jcm - I'm cooking poop today, been pretty good about keeping the pipeline going.
Just laid 4 trays last night and will start 4 bags tomorrow. Staying in continual grow
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26522260 - 03/07/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

hell ya asura fuckin rockin man. it is alot of work and i dont know how some of u can keep up with as much shit as u guys do. hell  i only have 2 fcs for pans so i can only fruit 4 trays at a time. and even that can b a bit of work maintaining after a 12-14 workday. the cubes just fuckn took care of themselves for the most part. but i have found pans require at least a bit of daily attention no matter the set up.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26522430 - 03/07/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So I’ve been experimenting with venom and exactly how useful it can be and while it does not always seem to force a full cross it does seem to consistently bleed traits between strains and now even in between species on the left is the pan cam Sandoze, It’s heavily domesticated and prone to dwarfing so I’m working on fixing this problem I forced hybridization between it and pan trop Australia. It’s still is dwarf But you can definitely see it took on a much lighter color and the stipes are now visible. I have two trays of the cross and I grew one of the Og sandoze dwarf along side for comparison. Later tonight I’m going to PCR both have them sequenced and see how exactly what we’re dealing with. I am cloning this and I’m going to do another venom forest hybridization using Australia again to see if I can’t pull more dominant traits through





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    #26522502 - 03/07/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

A little Hawaiian P. cyan snow globe...



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: footpath]
    #26522652 - 03/07/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

man jake crazy funny u say that. i just found 4 heads poking up from my casing and i can tell just by how it looks from my pan jam midget culture that puts out those fuckers. so now im almost 100% positive 1 of the 2 sandose trays  im waiting on rite now is gnna be midgets.☹️☹️  i hope you are able to fix this. im bummed out now i was exited for some good clones to work with here and now i can only hope for the other tray.


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