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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26471188 - 02/05/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

well thts good to hear then 😃


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26471701 - 02/06/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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hey asura just curious whats ur average germ time on agar for your aussie prints. just wonderin😃




When prints are fresh about 3 days. Over a week and I would be nervous.



This week my 5yo cyan print became alive in 2 days and almost colonized the dish in 6. I was impressed and still.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gt40] * 1
    #26471711 - 02/06/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So the pan Senguio turned out to be pan cint since the crush mount we observed contained no metuloid cystidia


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] * 1
    #26472159 - 02/06/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Is it at all common for Pan Cyan agar plates to slow down once they’ve eaten ~half the plate? Seems like all of mine grow out pretty quickly until it gets about 1.5inches in diameter and then it slows down. Obviously the larger it grows out, the greater the circumference/more agar it has to devour, but my cube plates seem to get faster as they grow.
Plates are 100mm if that helps. I can post pics if necessary.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26473064 - 02/06/20 11:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm having the same issue. Plates grew out halfway in about a week, but two weeks after that I'm still waiting for them to grow out fully. Haven't stalled, just slowed a lot, and I can't tell if I should still use them or start over.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Durgin] * 2
    #26473076 - 02/07/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hey fam here are some pan bisp
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26473106 - 02/07/20 12:37 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Nice looking fruits! Again :smile: I see that you usually let them open up all the way. That the way to go with pans or is it bc of printing?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #26473113 - 02/07/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I mean a lil of both larger caps larger prints also I don’t notice any drop in potency in mature fruits. The bigger the pan the more you have to eat lol. Also you don’t have as big of a spore load to deal with letting pans open like you do cubes


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26473224 - 02/07/20 02:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for explaining. When spring sets in I'll be going for a new try with pan cyans so I'm keeping a close eye y'all are killing it lately. Inspiring stuff


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Durgin]
    #26473298 - 02/07/20 05:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm having the same issue. Plates grew out halfway in about a week, but two weeks after that I'm still waiting for them to grow out fully. Haven't stalled, just slowed a lot, and I can't tell if I should still use them or start over.





How big are your transfers? I've been cutting all mine pretty tiny. The one plate that I did take a big transfer on is the only one that didn't really seem to slow down.



Is this about where yours are at? I made these 13 days ago and 90% of this growth occured in the first ~7 days. I don't think it's genetics because I have 20 different plates here that are all doing the same thing. Temperature has remained ~68-69 the entire time.
Also, some of them have rings, some of them look the same throughout. Anything to that?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26473319 - 02/07/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That seems a low temperature, no? I'd imagine you'd want about the same (maybe slightly higher?) germination/vegetation temps as fruiting.
I'd also imagine their initial push for recovering their colony to be less temperamental than once they've regained their health - at which time they then are more impacted by their preferential growing parameters like steady higher temperatures.

I've heard whispers of the rings being caused by temperature fluctuations, but I've never seen any solid evidence. Anecdotally, the logic is that it can be caused by the day/night cycle... hence the uniform rings.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: footpath]
    #26473411 - 02/07/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Idk about pans but with cubes I for sure have some plates that get rings from temp.

I can almost use one as a calendar lol, there was a night I cut the heater off to hit the SAB and forgot to turn it back on and the ring from that day was like twice as thick as the others.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
    #26473688 - 02/07/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

This is just bruising right guys?



Is there something wrong with these fruits, some of them are more opaque in color than the rest.



Seems like there is a little bacteria present, that bacteria that has no smell and seems like is myc but is not.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26473745 - 02/07/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They are just a little dry, it looks like bruising There’s only a few contaminants that I close the tray up right away and ditch it Trichoderma depending how bad it is black mold, definitely anything that forms on the surface but often times I will get little yellow specs of contamination I can see through the sides and I have no problem letting them ride and they rarely if ever hurt anything


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26473770 - 02/07/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

More transfers?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
    #26473777 - 02/07/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I would transfer out just to save your progress but that looks good to Spawn!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26473821 - 02/07/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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They are just a little dry, it looks like bruising There’s only a few contaminants that I close the tray up right away and ditch it Trichoderma depending how bad it is black mold, definitely anything that forms on the surface but often times I will get little yellow specs of contamination I can see through the sides and I have no problem letting them ride and they rarely if ever hurt anything




Thanks Jake, i've been using timers, same martha setup you use. Works great. I'm using my Inkbird RH controller for other stuff instead :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: footpath]
    #26473827 - 02/07/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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That seems a low temperature, no? I'd imagine you'd want about the same (maybe slightly higher?) germination/vegetation temps as fruiting.
I'd also imagine their initial push for recovering their colony to be less temperamental than once they've regained their health - at which time they then are more impacted by their preferential growing parameters like steady higher temperatures.

I've heard whispers of the rings being caused by temperature fluctuations, but I've never seen any solid evidence. Anecdotally, the logic is that it can be caused by the day/night cycle... hence the uniform rings.




Right now my options are try them at the 68-70degree temp, or wait a few months until it gets warmer outside. I opted to get the ball rolling now. I will take action once I get to the fruiting stage but for now it’s not feasible to keep the temps in the upper 70s just for my agar plates. They’re MEA plates. Plates are poured with slightly less than 2% LME...I don’t have my journal with me so I can’t say for sure.

The rings on mine don’t appear to be caused by day/night because most of the plates that have any rings at all only have 1-2 rings and it’s been 13 days. I was just wondering why some plates have a few rings, some have 1, most have none.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26474133 - 02/07/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm having the same issue. Plates grew out halfway in about a week, but two weeks after that I'm still waiting for them to grow out fully. Haven't stalled, just slowed a lot, and I can't tell if I should still use them or start over.





How big are your transfers? I've been cutting all mine pretty tiny. The one plate that I did take a big transfer on is the only one that didn't really seem to slow down.



Is this about where yours are at? I made these 13 days ago and 90% of this growth occured in the first ~7 days. I don't think it's genetics because I have 20 different plates here that are all doing the same thing. Temperature has remained ~68-69 the entire time.
Also, some of them have rings, some of them look the same throughout. Anything to that?




My transfers are indeed pretty small - about the size of a BB. The plates are a bit further along than yours. Here they are at about 18 days:



I've got the rings too, which I attribute to temperature changes. My apartment ranges from 71 to 79 over time, so that would probably do it. I get that on other plates too (including non-pans).

Figure another few days and these will go to grain. Anyone else see something in these pics that would suggest otherwise? (Ignore the condensation in the left one, the plates are indeed clean.)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Durgin]
    #26474211 - 02/07/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Durgin, those are some nice looking plates. Looks ready to go.


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