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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26278320 - 10/26/19 01:16 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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My manure guy has been giving me field aged in big oat bags. Not sure if I'm doing it right but a week or two before I want to use any I've been breaking some up and spreading it out on cardboard because some of the bigger peices are damp. Haven't grown anything out from it to fruit yet so the jury's still out. Thoughts?
Beautiful tray Asura.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Grimsweeper]
#26278341 - 10/26/19 01:25 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Grimsweeper said: My manure guy has been giving me field aged in big oat bags. Not sure if I'm doing it right but a week or two before I want to use any I've been breaking some up and spreading it out on cardboard because some of the bigger peices are damp. Haven't grown anything out from it to fruit yet so the jury's still out. Thoughts?
Beautiful tray Asura.
Sounds good to me I just dump mine in a big pile In the sun. It’s pre aged/dried when I Get it but I continue to mix it and I’ll rake in grass clippings and just keep stirring it. But yeah that should be perfect grim. I like 60 horse 40 cow but both will work fine alone. Right now mine is mostly cow, I’m hoping to score sum horse shit next week lol. Asura looks great and I absolutely agree. If the air in my grow room is warm and dry ( like it is in the winter) I am able to achieve a more drastic fluctuation between cycles and I get better pin sets.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Grimsweeper]
#26278376 - 10/26/19 01:41 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Woohoo asura! Totally makes sense what you're saying about the fae source being drier. I use this a lot in my Martha's but for cubes. I think when the fresh air is drier it increases the evaporation on the surface of the mushrooms and triggers them to grow.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: spiritlands]
#26280904 - 10/27/19 06:24 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can see the differences between psilo's and dmt, different structure as shown in the above picture with different bonds. I do believe they are extremely closely related, on the other side wherever you go on dmt sure does feel very aztecian mayan olmec, or generally a indo american feel to it.
Have had similar shroom trips but dmt does have a unique feeling, maybe with a maoi it could be more shroom like orally, smoking it though... you go from baseline to hyperspace in under 5 seconds, where as shrooms can be a gradually increasingly intense experience. Haven't had dmt like images shown yet on shrooms.
Maybe psilo alone may produce a more dmt like experience but believe the other chems bio synthed by the shrooms play a role in making each different from one another.
Sorry for going off topic... but that planet reply was extremely irrelevant when we arn't talking about planet's.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: spiritlands]
#26281066 - 10/27/19 07:48 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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spiritlands said: Woohoo asura! Totally makes sense what you're saying about the fae source being drier. I use this a lot in my Martha's but for cubes. I think when the fresh air is drier it increases the evaporation on the surface of the mushrooms and triggers them to grow.
With FAE, there will be evaporation even at 99% humidity. It will be just harder to produce evaporation since the air is full of moisture already. Since copelandia are grown with casings on top with 99% humidity at surface level, our jobs is to produce as much evaporation as possible off the casing for as long as possible. Humidity drops are kind of needed no? I'm in the process of setting up a martha. I don't know if i should use a RH controller or some timers. I like what Jakeoncid419 said to me about his martha setup on timers.
He runs his fogger for 3 minutes to fill the GH (located at top) and 3 minutes his exhaust fan (bellow). He first starts his fogger but at minute 1.5 he starts his exhaust fan dragging down all that fog, moisturizing his casing layers on the way down, that runs for another 1.5 minutes, then the fogger stops and the fan runs for another 1.5 minutes, this is were the humidity drops and triggers evaporation since the air that is coming in is dryer. Then his GH sits for 10 minutes without the fogger and the fan doing anything, evaporation is taking place inside these 10 minutes of calm as well. Then the cycle repeats. He uses his fan and fogger 4 times per 58 min (an hour basically).
I don't know how i will be able to do this with a RH controller I guess i'll just setup the RH controller to work within a range. Starts at 72%, turn off at 99% to simulate these humidity drops? 1 thing is for sure, i don't think with a RH controller i will be able to sync the fogger and the fan to drag the fog down to moisture the casing layer as nicely as him. Most of time it will be unsynced.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26281133 - 10/27/19 08:32 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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careful not to overthink things. learn by doing. set something up, try it, see how it goes, make adjustments as necessary.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26281141 - 10/27/19 08:40 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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*da shh cray* 
pan cyans will kick your ass then make you smile.
1.5g fresh & I had to stop everything & go for a run.
Theres no morphing and such, but it came on so fast and hard. One of those "holy Shh, grab the tsunami blanket" come ups. Thought it was going to be more with a come up like that, all in all it was enough.
Reading back in "my threads" someone else had 5g fresh and ended up posting a thread titled "wtf was that" lol rip.
I am really sensitive to ego dissolution and am glad for the re-set.

Also I take back what I said about casing with more straw. It works yes, but its very likely not going to hold moisture as well as other materials.
Been seeing some interesting things, and it seems iv finally got my FC "dailed in". Yay.
Dear santa, please get me some agar for Christmas, its been too long & i am ready lol. Poured the last of it out to measure it and lost it lol
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: J. Jack Flash]
#26281229 - 10/27/19 09:51 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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J. Jack Flash said: careful not to overthink things. learn by doing. set something up, try it, see how it goes, make adjustments as necessary.
yeah i might be overthinking.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26281263 - 10/27/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr alien, totally agree. That's what I was saying I set my Martha by cycles of humidity drop. I set mine too bring rh up fast and then drop to low 80s over an hour. I run a humidifier 15 min on 45 off and I add slits until it evaporates fast enough for whatever length cycle I want. This is how I run it for cubes. For pans I think I'm gonna have to cut the cycle down closer to 15 min instead of an hour.
Jakeonacid seems to have the fogger thing figured out. I'm building a Martha for pans right now but it is my first. I'm going to try it my way first but if it doesn't work I'll be shopping for a fogger. I have an old school humidifier that may as well be a fogger, thing makes it rain.
I prefer not to be forcing humidity in and sucking it out, fans every two min etc. I'd rather approach it by letting it Max out then evaporate naturally. It's easier for me not to overcompensate this way. I'm willing to try it any way that gets me sexy flushes like the rest of these folks
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: spiritlands]
#26281500 - 10/28/19 04:58 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have 2 tubs stacked so I could put my fruiting chambers inside, used a plastic milk container and cut off the top. After cut off the top and part of the handle a even cut, a ultrasonic humidifier was placed inside with water, and a pc fan sits on top blowing down so the mist comes out of the handle part soaking the entire enclosure in thick fog, this is all controlled by a environment controller I built myself, and may find it if you search my posts.
Also keep a store bought temp/hum sensor in the enclosure to be able to verify the readings from the temp/hum sensor used in the environment controller system.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: K3yBoardC0WBoy]
#26282136 - 10/28/19 11:20 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is the PH of your peat moss brand? I remember buying a peat moss with a base ph of 3.5, now i'm seeing that there are some brands that are sold with a base ph of 6?
When i tried to add CaCO3 to raise the ph to 7+ it was a pain in the ass. I wonder if any of you buy these peat moss brands with a base ph of 6.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien] 1
#26282183 - 10/28/19 11:41 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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With pH keep in mind that when you add water to an acid or base that it dilutes the concentration and you add or subtract a pH point. So if it says 6 and you add water to it it should make it 7, neutral.
Also calcium carbonate is a buffer. It won't get you above 7+. It's meant to keep pH within a certain range. You can use some calcium carbonate to get to neutral and then use a stronger alkali a little at a time to get you over 7+ without overdoing it.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26282203 - 10/28/19 11:47 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Go to the casing section in the link of my sig. All your casing questions are answered there.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26282314 - 10/28/19 12:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah for the case I just keep it simple, I do about 60/40 PEat moss over verm throw in a few handfuls of crushed oyster shells (optional) then balance to 7.5 with HL. It doesn’t take much hl. If I’m making 8 qts of case I only use about a table spoon. I then pasteurize overnight in a slow cooker at 165F. The most common mistake I see ppl make is to put their case on too thick. I spread it in as thin as I can just enough that you can only se a lil myc poking thru here and there. I’m actually gonna case some trays tonight I’ll post sum pics
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26282742 - 10/28/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asura said: Go to the casing section in the link of my sig. All your casing questions are answered there.
I did , but then it says.
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The peat, vermiculite and dH20 by themselves have pH of ~6.5.
I can only guess your peat is at 6.0 PH and with the vermiculite and the water it's raised to 6.5 ph?
Edit: I read it wrong, i guess all those 2 ingredients and the water have a pH of 6.5. Well, i will try to find a peat of 6.5 pH.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26283125 - 10/28/19 06:32 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well this is what i have done today :P What you guys think about the GH table and the plastic basket?
I thought it would be nice to see the GH elevated from the floor and the basket might help catching all the moisture at the bottom. The basket has a 2" inch hole that i'm not sure why is it for :P I guess so the water drips into a bucket? I can seal that 2" hole if i don't find it useful. I was thinking a exhaust fan there? But the moisture will break the fan if i put it there huh?. The good thing is that it would be very easy to air seal the bottom of the GH with that plastic basket.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26283157 - 10/28/19 06:41 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im sure the ph of water varies from place to place due to different components of water, well wouldn't be surprised if it varied by up to 2 points.
I'll look up the peat moss brand used, but never measured ph on this one, just waited till I was positive was at or near 100%, and cased with verm dumped from a dish. Working very well at the moment at least...
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26283158 - 10/28/19 06:41 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's a sweet looking setup! Not sure about exhaust and intake fans, at least yet, as long as the air has a spot to exit you should be fine.
Cubes grow fine in unmodded tubs and no fans, so would hope it would apply here. I do need to get a hum sensor for the substrate, to figure out how well everything is working. I have a store sensor and a pcb sensor both give different readings which is slightly annoying. 3º F diff and 10+% hum difference, and it wasn't the cheapest store bought readout. Seems the sensor used in the system I built is better quality...
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: K3yBoardC0WBoy]
#26283164 - 10/28/19 06:46 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is not difficult at all to adjust ph, go get a ph meter from tractor supply (only $20 if that) then there are several ways to adjust but usually doesn’t need that much adjust ime. As long as one of those cheap meters says it’s approx 7-7.5 ish your fine. The only time I’ve ever had issues with case ph is when I tried to do too much
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26283174 - 10/28/19 06:51 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes ph is plenty easy to adjust, the beauty of chemistry! Google can be your best friend at times!
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