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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #26271997 - 10/23/19 03:13 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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is their effect just the same as any other, just weaker? i like the idea of investigating the spectrum of effects from different species. it would be poetic if they had effects unique to them, but required a much larger dose.




It would be interesting to hear more on this.

I had those three cyans today and the potency is remarkable.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: High Night Expanse]
    #26272107 - 10/23/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: High Night Expanse]
    #26272677 - 10/23/19 08:12 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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High Night Expanse said:
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J. Jack Flash said:
is their effect just the same as any other, just weaker? i like the idea of investigating the spectrum of effects from different species. it would be poetic if they had effects unique to them, but required a much larger dose.




It would be interesting to hear more on this.

I had those three cyans today and the potency is remarkable.





yeah, jake is the resident researcher on the topic. i'm only just getting my feet wet. he's grown em all.

jake do you have any sort of catalog of your relative experiences/effects from the various species?



which reminds me, i wanted to mention that i only recently sampled some of the cyans i've grown. right around 0.35g dry of a pile of caps which had all been used for 36hours making prints before being dried. it felt like more than a solid dry gram of tamps. truly remarkable, considering the possibility that the potency went down as they were sitting at room temp for a day and a half.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: J. Jack Flash] * 1
    #26272698 - 10/23/19 08:22 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Here is a post I made on DMT world a few months ago on the subject.
I’ve collected more data since then but I have yet to catalog and make sense of it yet but here is what I have so far. As for the cints I was not able to get enough down to truly experience what I needed they are pretty rough on the tummy


So I’ve had a couple different people ask me about the different medicinal values across the different strains and sub species of Panaeolus cyanescens. While I expect everyone is going to have different preferences and these results are subjective of a small research group this is the best I got. Most of this is my personal experience however I do have a few friends that struggle with mental illness & addiction who microdose.
I am an ex Heroin addict (Iv about 10 years) I’m 4 years clean now and I also am diagnosed ADHD bipolar (and bpd depending on doc lol).
On several occasions macro dose experiences have given me the strength and wisdom to maintain my sobriety. As for my depression and mania I began micro dosing about a year ago. I started with .3 Mexicana tamp daily for about a month it def helped however I would often wake up sweaty so I changed it to .2 pan aus .2 Tamp, this had an even better effect as a mood enhancement and to combat the sweats I changed my dose to alt day, which did the trick. I then just began to experiment with the different strains and subspecies and see how each effected me differently. I wouldn’t change daily but rather give each variation 10 days on a alt day schedule.
I found that (A class) (class for easy reference only)
pan cyan aus
Pan cam sandoze
Pan hausteca & Haustralian
Worked best as a add Med + depression I like this dose for days when I just had to focus but I was mostly alone. Not the best for being social but def not debilitating just optimal in my opinion for “study time” “work time”
The (B class)
pan Alabama
Pan peace river
Pan cam indo
Pan bisp + pan trop
Are much more in the mood enhancement side. Very freeing and spirit lifting. Great for family time or date night or just your day off. I do feel a little bit more lazy on these however

The mexicana I wanted to give their own section because while they also have have strong mood enhancement effect they also are accompanied by a more love specific vibe. Even more suited for “date night” but def not sexual specific they are also just a good choice for any extensive social interaction such as wedding reception, reunion Christmas things where it is import to love those around you.

I also found that my 10 day rule is not seeming applicable as I have started just taking my microdose on a “as needed” schedule. I choose my dose specifically for my task at hand that day or if i feel a specific problem like a wave of depression for example. The pan (B class) works on depression like Excedrin on a migraine. I will feel completely renewed 20-30 min after dose. During this 20 min I try to do something I know makes me happy and by the time I’m done I feel great.
Like I said this is just been my experience but I kept track of it for a reason maybe it will help someone


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26272730 - 10/23/19 08:34 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I used to keep a cardboard box on top my cable box to incubate jars in. I had it at 81 Fahrenheit day and night. You just got to move it around or elevated with a book or something similar to get the temperature just right. just a thought, and you don't have to buy anything extra


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: K3yBoardC0WBoy]
    #26272792 - 10/23/19 09:10 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Toxic enigma said:
I was thinking along the line of setting up a
Small space heater connected to a reptile thermostat so it only turns on when the temp gets too low. Just trying to get an idea what range to keep it around.



What about a electric blanket around the tub?



A heater on a reptile thermostat keeps the room in a consistent range. I'm trying to eliminate big swings in temperature.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26272799 - 10/23/19 09:13 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Jakeoncid419 said:
Here is a post I made on DMT world a few months ago on the subject.
I’ve collected more data since then but I have yet to catalog and make sense of it yet but here is what I have so far. As for the cints I was not able to get enough down to truly experience what I needed they are pretty rough on the tummy


So I’ve had a couple different people ask me about the different medicinal values across the different strains and sub species of Panaeolus cyanescens. While I expect everyone is going to have different preferences and these results are subjective of a small research group this is the best I got. Most of this is my personal experience however I do have a few friends that struggle with mental illness & addiction who microdose.
I am an ex Heroin addict (Iv about 10 years) I’m 4 years clean now and I also am diagnosed ADHD bipolar (and bpd depending on doc lol).
On several occasions macro dose experiences have given me the strength and wisdom to maintain my sobriety. As for my depression and mania I began micro dosing about a year ago. I started with .3 Mexicana tamp daily for about a month it def helped however I would often wake up sweaty so I changed it to .2 pan aus .2 Tamp, this had an even better effect as a mood enhancement and to combat the sweats I changed my dose to alt day, which did the trick. I then just began to experiment with the different strains and subspecies and see how each effected me differently. I wouldn’t change daily but rather give each variation 10 days on a alt day schedule.
I found that (A class) (class for easy reference only)
pan cyan aus
Pan cam sandoze
Pan hausteca & Haustralian
Worked best as a add Med + depression I like this dose for days when I just had to focus but I was mostly alone. Not the best for being social but def not debilitating just optimal in my opinion for “study time” “work time”
The (B class)
pan Alabama
Pan peace river
Pan cam indo
Pan bisp + pan trop
Are much more in the mood enhancement side. Very freeing and spirit lifting. Great for family time or date night or just your day off. I do feel a little bit more lazy on these however

The mexicana I wanted to give their own section because while they also have have strong mood enhancement effect they also are accompanied by a more love specific vibe. Even more suited for “date night” but def not sexual specific they are also just a good choice for any extensive social interaction such as wedding reception, reunion Christmas things where it is import to love those around you.

I also found that my 10 day rule is not seeming applicable as I have started just taking my microdose on a “as needed” schedule. I choose my dose specifically for my task at hand that day or if i feel a specific problem like a wave of depression for example. The pan (B class) works on depression like Excedrin on a migraine. I will feel completely renewed 20-30 min after dose. During this 20 min I try to do something I know makes me happy and by the time I’m done I feel great.
Like I said this is just been my experience but I kept track of it for a reason maybe it will help someone



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26272821 - 10/23/19 09:35 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

outstanding, man, thanks for posting this. will certainly be referencing and intend to try cataloging my own subjective experiences.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: J. Jack Flash] * 1
    #26272842 - 10/23/19 09:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Grim- Lol yeah it’s tough but I manage 😉
Jack- for sure man yeah I would love everyone to jot down what they notice on each strain both micro & macro and please share it with me🤓


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26272856 - 10/23/19 10:09 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Pan Bisp kicks my ass. Ive only had one dismal grow of cyan but I think Bisp was stronger and lengthier IME. Fingers crossed for my cyan Aussie coming up for a better comparison. I only have a couple grams of Bisp left.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26273240 - 10/24/19 05:06 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Pan Bisp kicks my ass. Ive only had one dismal grow of cyan but I think Bisp was stronger and lengthier IME. Fingers crossed for my cyan Aussie coming up for a better comparison. I only have a couple grams of Bisp left.





I've tried them all as well.  Bisporus is my favorite pan.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
    #26273244 - 10/24/19 05:11 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hope I am in for a treat then, I've tried cambo and Cyan's from the outdoors but just tired of cubes and looking to experience different species to see if one is more preferred for medicinal reasons, also going on about 5yrs clean from heroin and all opioids. Psychedelic medicine has given me the strength and knowledge to keep my mind body and spirit on a productive enjoyable path.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: K3yBoardC0WBoy]
    #26273339 - 10/24/19 06:19 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Grimsweeper said:
Pan Bisp kicks my ass. Ive only had one dismal grow of cyan but I think Bisp was stronger and lengthier IME. Fingers crossed for my cyan Aussie coming up for a better comparison. I only have a couple grams of Bisp left.



This makes me want to get a successful grow going even more. One thing I feel mushrooms could use is more duration.

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Hope I am in for a treat then, I've tried cambo and Cyan's from the outdoors but just tired of cubes and looking to experience different species to see if one is more preferred for medicinal reasons, also going on about 5yrs clean from heroin and all opioids. Psychedelic medicine has given me the strength and knowledge to keep my mind body and spirit on a productive enjoyable path.



Congratulations on staying off opiates, I'm at 6 months myself so I know the struggle.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Toxic enigma]
    #26273407 - 10/24/19 07:23 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Makes me happy to see so many successful recovery stories. The success rate really is astounding,
Of my own friends 7 out of 9 are still sober and doing great (they continue to micro and macro some of them also use kratom) the other two (husband and wife) are trying to come off methadone and this has been much more difficult. @ their current dose the kratom just isn’t enough to override symptoms without negative effects from it. So they are currently dropping their dose but continue to micro and macro. Their outlook is definitely improving but having come off meth myself I know it’s gonna be rough. I had to come off of 150 g a day cold turkey in a prison cell. I’ve violated parole and they snitched me @ the clinic just after my dose. That was rough they gave me Librium for three days but that didn’t do anything. I was throwing up and shitting for three weeks straight no sleep for almost 2 months it’s the worst I’ve ever felt in my entire life (except for cotton fever that  can be really rough) But my muscles and anxiety was jacked for about six months maybe more before I started to feel normal again but then again my normal is pretty jacked so maybe some of that is just my fuck up brain.
I did do permanent damage to my endocrine and digestive system though. Opiates are no good man they will take you to heaven, but you gotta crawl thru hell to get back to earth.
Oh I also wanted to add the pan Texas is also B class (Texas and Alabama feel pretty much the same)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] * 2
    #26273431 - 10/24/19 07:49 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I think that's awesome we have some people that have recovered in here.

Pan cyans stopped my drinking cold after a single trip. Will be 9 months tomorrow. Cyans is
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26273435 - 10/24/19 07:56 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

If you think mushrooms dont last long enough, there's always the maoi maob maoa etc inhibitors.

I once ran half naked through the capital, the whole city turned into a maze of shifting streets, buildings moving and transparent walls, after having consumed a mix of mushrooms, curcumin and black pepper. It was not particulary strong or a large dose of mushrooms either.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
    #26273514 - 10/24/19 08:42 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Grimsweeper said:
Pan Bisp kicks my ass. Ive only had one dismal grow of cyan but I think Bisp was stronger and lengthier IME. Fingers crossed for my cyan Aussie coming up for a better comparison. I only have a couple grams of Bisp left.





I've tried them all as well.  Bisporus is my favorite pan.




please expound. what's it about bisporus that makes that species your favorite?

i have a bisporus print but i can't get anything off it but mold.

edit: and everyone, much love and congratulations on overcoming your demons. i've had my own struggles, but i reckon they pale in comparison. at the same time, i've had a back-row seat to an in-law's literal self destruction from alcohol. wouldn't try shrooms. because it's an illegal. so it must be bad... poor sap.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26273533 - 10/24/19 08:51 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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I think that's awesome we have some people that have recovered in here.

Pan cyans stopped my drinking cold after a single trip. Will be 9 months tomorrow. Cyans is
a miracle. The best medicine I have found for anxiety and depression.




I have exactly depression and anxiety. I refuse to take antidepressants.

Is there any particular Pans variety that has the most benefits? I feel like the high serotonin that they contain helps a lot with it.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26273540 - 10/24/19 08:54 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

What is the basis of this pan/serotonin thing?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26273568 - 10/24/19 09:05 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Asura said:
I think that's awesome we have some people that have recovered in here.

Pan cyans stopped my drinking cold after a single trip. Will be 9 months tomorrow. Cyans is
a miracle. The best medicine I have found for anxiety and depression.




I have exactly depression and anxiety. I refuse to take antidepressants.

Is there any particular Pans variety that has the most benefits? I feel like the high serotonin that they contain helps a lot with it.



For depression all pans will help, I really like the bisp trop cams also pan cyan peace river they tend to be more mood enhancing. For anxiety def Mexicana I feel works best but the pans help too on days when I have bad anxiety I usually cut more Mexicana into my micro, if I don’t have anxiety but am just depressed I go pan.
Jack for me the bisp was very uplifting everything felt like an adventure, I wasn’t blinded by visuals like I get on some pan cyans like Australian and senguio but still nice visuals when I want them lol.
I didn’t notice any difference in trip duration or any huge difference in potency however i would often times has a tolerance when testing these I would increase my dose so I could experience it but I would imagine I would need much less if I had not had done them for a few weeks or more before taking.
For micro
I find myself taking the bisp and pan cam Indonesia the most these days (usually with a lil Mexicana)


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