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mullugh said: Can anyone advise me on casing mixes that don't involve peat moss? I've tried with a mix of cactus compost and verm, but it's expensive and I'm yet to see positive results.
Cased 4 tubs yesterday with straw. Straw tub, straw casing, seems to be doing well, got the fluffing up action going already.
Iv been just been examining my tubs recently left two alone uncased no dunk and they've been pinning, especially on the sides of the tub, with one fruiting & sporulating rn as it matures. It seems to me they are mature when the cap margin starts turning upward, so that's when I like to pick them.
cased those two with straw yesterday one time.
recently changed the perlite in my FC and its working but examining the environment it seems I could have put in more perlite to make it moister. When I check on it the walls are usually dry.
One of the best part of growing mushrooms to me is forgetting that your growing mushrooms lol.
Thank you. I'd love to see pictures and also how do your prepare your straw?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
#26268398 - 10/21/19 08:19 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Out of curiosity what temperature are you guys colonizing your jars at? I've had two attempts at bispore with Mac's pan-cake tek that make it to about 30-40% then just seem to stall. I also have bispore and cyan Florida on MEA but growth seems to be a bit slower than I would expect. I'm wondering if it has to do with recent temperature fluctuations thanks to this wonderful midwestern weather, lol.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Toxic enigma]
#26268414 - 10/21/19 08:24 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Toxic enigma said: Out of curiosity what temperature are you guys colonizing your jars at? I've had two attempts at bispore with Mac's pan-cake tek that make it to about 30-40% then just seem to stall. I also have bispore and cyan Florida on MEA but growth seems to be a bit slower than I would expect. I'm wondering if it has to do with recent temperature fluctuations thanks to this wonderful midwestern weather, lol.
Also in the Midwest experiencing a cold autumn, basement temperatures. Around 73 most of the time but could be as low as 69 at night. My pan cyan jars are coming along wel.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Toxic enigma]
#26268421 - 10/21/19 08:27 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bought a stir plate for making my lc. All I can do now is wait till something germinates...
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jbgtaa]
#26268726 - 10/21/19 11:16 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Toxic enigma said: Out of curiosity what temperature are you guys colonizing your jars at? I've had two attempts at bispore with Mac's pan-cake tek that make it to about 30-40% then just seem to stall. I also have bispore and cyan Florida on MEA but growth seems to be a bit slower than I would expect. I'm wondering if it has to do with recent temperature fluctuations thanks to this wonderful midwestern weather, lol.
Also in the Midwest experiencing a cold autumn, basement temperatures. Around 73 most of the time but could be as low as 69 at night. My pan cyan jars are coming along wel.
I had mine drop as low as 63°f last week about the time the cakes seemed to stall. That and my cube, tamp and atl 7 cultures seem to be moving along faster than my pans has me wonder if that has something to do with it. The room I'm growing in doesn't hold heat very well and seems to fluctuate alot more than the rest of my condo.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Toxic enigma]
#26268788 - 10/22/19 12:44 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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i know alot of people on the boards will say that you dont need to worry about the temperature of your spawn but a cold winter can bring your grow area 10 degreees too low i constructed a little tent that i keep all of my spawn in, and they share their heat to keep it around the right temperature. This works for me because i have over 40 jars colonizing in there, but some people may need a very small heat source to keep their grow area at the right temperature.
Notice i said they keep the grow area at 73f. You do not eed to be heating the jars themsleves. Kepp the room at 73f and set the jars on a shelf. they will thrive.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jbgtaa]
#26268993 - 10/22/19 05:59 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was thinking along the line of setting up a Small space heater connected to a reptile thermostat so it only turns on when the temp gets too low. Just trying to get an idea what range to keep it around.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
#26269227 - 10/22/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you. I'd love to see pictures and also how do your prepare your straw?

The two in front (no dunk, no casing until after fruit appeared, pretty dry but still fruited)
The two in the back (rinsed with water and cased, both were under sterilized) I just rinsed the bugs off, waste not lol.
All this is playing around trying to see how different things work.
And from what I gather so far, the two that were rinsed despite being bacterial, they ran through the casing with more speed than the two drier tubs.
I think going forward I will be rinsing my subs for a minute or two instead of dunking them for hours.
Some times I will chop the straw up, wet it and throw it in the tubs to pc. BUT it seems the straw is better after cooking/steaming for ~20mins.
Also it seems i've been doing things too wet and too dry on occasion so now with cooking the straw and giving it a hard squeeze, I think thats much better.
There is no excess moisture this way and the straw after cooking has plenty of moisture inside of the stalks.
The straw from the tubs that I didnt bother saving, I dumped it all in the PC and ran it, then squeezed the moisture out until no drops of liquid came out, and used that to case.
I was worried about using sterilized straw as a casing, as I thought mold might take hold, but they've fanned through it so fast, despite being bacterial, that is not an problem im worried about anymore.
Not really aiming for big flushes/perfection RN just watching how the myc grows if its too dry or w/e and adjusting the little steps.
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pan cinctulus, at last.

can you spot the contamination?  hint: there's multiple, and they're lovely.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Toxic enigma]
#26269919 - 10/22/19 02:23 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Toxic enigma said: I was thinking along the line of setting up a Small space heater connected to a reptile thermostat so it only turns on when the temp gets too low. Just trying to get an idea what range to keep it around.
Do that. Pans will colonize just fine at 69-73f (being shown this in my lab) and i think they like to fruit around 80. So yeah just get a controller and set the boundaries to 78-80. And get a humidty controller as well to get that high humidity dialed in and youll be set.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jbgtaa]
#26270192 - 10/22/19 05:04 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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You growing some sprouts, Jack?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26270272 - 10/22/19 05:39 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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J. Jack Flash said: pan cinctulus, at last.

can you spot the contamination?  hint: there's multiple, and they're lovely.
It may just be the phenotype but that looks like tropicalis not cints. All cints I’ve ever grown have looked like this  Notice the coloration if the stipe
Then here is pan trop
 Cints also have a very unique smell. If I’ve ever smelled pan cyans before cints would smell completely different
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26270429 - 10/22/19 06:53 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love the smell of pan cyans. Smells slightly like almond ess, with a almost metallic hint.
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Asura since you asked my sterilized jars of LC to hpoo/grain/grain water are coming along really nice. This may be my new favorite way of growing pans. Bags may be better but I'm not a bag guy.
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#26270590 - 10/22/19 08:21 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Grimsweeper said: Asura my sterilized jars of LC to hpoo/grain/grain water are coming along really nice. This may be my new favorite way of growing pans. Bags may be better but I'm not a bag guy.
Dude, I've actually been thinking about what you are doing ever since I saw your pics. The bags don't always colonize evenly. With jars you have the smaller volume so I am betting it will work pretty good. The only think I am thinking is that it might be hard to break things up with a shake if you need to 
And I'm guessing once it's grown out you just bust them up and lay it to a tray?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26270603 - 10/22/19 08:29 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive pretty much ruled out a shake. Just letting it do it thing til its done them bust it up with something sanitized and go to a tray. Only thing now is im running out of LC so I need to expand. My clean LC game needs work.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#26270736 - 10/22/19 09:51 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asura said: You growing some sprouts, Jack? 
aye! couple sprouts, and a couple pan cyans. teeny tiny. fuckin adorable.
 i used the same mixing bowl when i spawned without being especially worried about cross contamination. i actually have a mind to mix some trays deliberately. we'll see.
jake, that's an unexpected thought. all i can say for sure is the print was labelled as cinctulus, warren pa. oh and a few of the plates developed some of them blue pearls. do trops do any such thing?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: J. Jack Flash]
#26271407 - 10/23/19 09:48 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I’ve never had cyans trips bisp or can produce stones but I’ve heard all kinds of stuff about pan stones so it’s possible. I guess u will find out when u dose. Ime cints are not very strong
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26271569 - 10/23/19 11:15 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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is their effect just the same as any other, just weaker? i like the idea of investigating the spectrum of effects from different species. it would be poetic if they had effects unique to them, but required a much larger dose.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Toxic enigma]
#26271920 - 10/23/19 02:25 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Toxic enigma said: I was thinking along the line of setting up a Small space heater connected to a reptile thermostat so it only turns on when the temp gets too low. Just trying to get an idea what range to keep it around.
What about a electric blanket around the tub?
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