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EntheogenicEric
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: Jot]
#26160013 - 08/29/19 10:56 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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EntheogenicEric said: I find these buggers regularly when they're in season. They're in season lol.

Putting some of those big ones butts on agar right now.
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: d0urd3n]
#26160084 - 08/29/19 11:58 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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For those interested with limited resources, here is my example of a non expensive fruiting chamber.


I take the stuff out to mist the walls, twice a day if the tape is on, three times or more if iv got the "check on it bug" or if the tape is not there. Avoid catching the check on it bug!
Also place the containers back in the same positions after misting, changing the position around suddenly while the sun/light is in the same position may have your mushrooms growing in funny directions.

Found some new material to try casing with, decayed wood/humus blended with a weed wacker to this fine consistency.

I was looking forward to a fluffy myc spawn run pic before soaking in a few days and casing but alas there was rain, and more rain.
Also soaked a tub of 100% colonized straw pre-frist flush and cased that with the same casing mix. Just to see how it goes.
First to fruit after going back to spores: The uncased straw coconut fiber didnt give much on the first flush, while it looked good it was too dry and i kept checking on it! Bottom watered in the middle of fruting and the fruit looked better but it was too late to make a big difference.
But it turned out to be interesting in the regards to the genetics that were expressed. wavy, pale, "thick fleshed" ones with slight pits, not obviously umbonate, super dark blueing; these looked like the original wild ones, and one late comer which is symmetrical, more tan and obviously umbonate.
0.5 fresh + very weak weed resulted in ego dissolution, it was probably me being sensitive having experienced it previously, its nothing to fear. 0.5g fresh wont be enough to force it, but i could see a person becoming emotional in the wrong setting and not knowing why.
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Sweet thanks guys. Just took my two best looking bama plates to lc. Have some really nice looking blue springs that will follow that and hopefully I can get what I'm looking for with these Jamaicas soon. Its like it thickened up after some transfers, the opposite of what I had intended "shrug". But for now I have some ATL#7/galindoi that are about ready to be cased.
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: KapnDank]
#26162070 - 08/31/19 09:29 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guys, fast question. Would appreciate a fast answer since Im ready to case them right now.
With MacMerdin's pan cakes, should I dunk them before I case them? Cant find anything about this in the thread. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18357343/fpart/all/vc/1
Thank you!
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: Puduwoke]
#26162078 - 08/31/19 09:32 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes dunk and then bury your cake in Verm or roll in verm
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: JHOVA]
#26162093 - 08/31/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, the casing provides moisture
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: JHOVA]
#26162129 - 08/31/19 10:05 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: Yes dunk and then bury your cake in Vermont or roll in verm
I do not think we roll in verm with the Pan cakes. I did not dunk them only cased them now, Thanks for the replies.
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: Puduwoke]
#26162133 - 08/31/19 10:07 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Puduwoke said: Guys, fast question. Would appreciate a fast answer since Im ready to case them right now.
With MacMerdin's pan cakes, should I dunk them before I case them? Cant find anything about this in the thread. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18357343/fpart/all/vc/1
Thank you!
No but have your casing a little on the wet side. Hoping for big flushes coming your way.
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: Puduwoke]
#26162141 - 08/31/19 10:12 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: Yes dunk and then bury your cake in Vermont or roll in verm
I do not think we roll in verm with the Pan cakes. I did not dunk them only cased them now, Thanks for the replies.
Remember evaporation is the pinning trigger so have your casing dry a bit before misting it again. Don't let it dry up though. Once a day was plenty for me.
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: MacMerdin]
#26162160 - 08/31/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome, thanks a lot MacMerdin  Hopefully I got pins soon. When I come home from work being away for 9 hours, the casing is pretty damn dry tho.
We will see. Will keep you guys updated either way
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: Puduwoke]
#26162166 - 08/31/19 10:29 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I’ve never ran pan cakes before but given how much evaporation they prefer I would say dunk. Oh shit should have refreshed the page lol. I figured as much tho
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d0urd3n
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26162755 - 08/31/19 05:14 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't even have pins yet and my mono is full of gnats. This has never been an issue before. I wonder if my sous vide pastuerization failed me...
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Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: d0urd3n]
#26162808 - 08/31/19 05:38 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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must be that climate change i've been hearing so much about. don't think pasteurization has much to do with it.
my first attempt using diatomaceous earth in the casing material worked really well. had a pretty severe gnat problem. no longer.
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: Jakeoncid419] 1
#26162834 - 08/31/19 05:53 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is similar to the question asked recently with straw. Thankfully i had enough spawn to try both dunk & no dunk, uncased and cased,and based on what happened I would say to dunk before casing. Mainly reasoning that it wont harm it and in my case resulted in faster more "powerful" fruit body growth. Some bottom fruit aswell coming from some areas of extra thick white myc but that usually happens.
I dislike seeing matted mycelia, as in how it looks when it gets wet, but dunking them all pre-first flush going forward seems like a good idea for me.

Dunked, cased and unhurt.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: J. Jack Flash]
#26162841 - 08/31/19 05:56 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: Don't even have pins yet and my mono is full of gnats. This has never been an issue before. I wonder if my sous vide pastuerization failed me...
That sucks.
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my first attempt using diatomaceous earth in the casing material worked really well. had a pretty severe gnat problem. no longer.
nice fix.
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J. Jack Flash said: must be that climate change i've been hearing so much about. don't think pasteurization has much to do with it.
my first attempt using diatomaceous earth in the casing material worked really well. had a pretty severe gnat problem. no longer.
nice fix.
I’ve used a vacuume in the past to control gnats.
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High Night Expanse said: This is similar to the question asked recently with straw. Thankfully i had enough spawn to try both dunk & no dunk, uncased and cased,and based on what happened I would say to dunk before casing. Mainly reasoning that it wont harm it and in my case resulted in faster more "powerful" fruit body growth. Some bottom fruit aswell coming from some areas of extra thick white myc but that usually happens.
I dislike seeing matted mycelia, as in how it looks when it gets wet, but dunking them all pre-first flush going forward seems like a good idea for me.

Dunked, cased and unhurt.
Interesting. Thanks for your insight.
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: MacMerdin]
#26163396 - 09/01/19 05:55 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would you configure an SGFC differently for a pan grow than for cubes? That is, 1/4" holes on a 2" grid on all 6 sides or would you vary things specifically for pans?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bongoman]
#26163409 - 09/01/19 06:24 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys - I have just been trying this strain - Pan Alabama Starting with spores on agar, taking transfers and colonizing the rye jars. I seem to have a fruiting problem. I am not sure if this is because I have shaken the jars. Once I shake them they seem to come back a bit spotty and occasionally go bacterial if I leave them a few days too long after colonization. Still the plates look fine with no trace of bacteria. Every time I spawn them to poo and make cakes - my cakes seem to stall a bit and then go mouldy. This one is going really slow and I have been trying to fruit it for at least a week: 90-95% humidity, fae, etc
 Close up you can still see a bit of mycelium, but no trace of pins.

Do you reckon this is from shaking the jars and not having a mono-cuture? Thanks guys.
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Re: A fruiting chamber setup for Pans [Re: bongoman]
#26163417 - 09/01/19 06:28 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah they are a bit more fussy and need high humidity and more air exchange. The SGFC should work with perlite, but I never had any luck with them in a monotub.
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