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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: JHOVA]
    #26078961 - 06/28/19 10:12 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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I read the entire thread and there are only a few examples of successful monos. Most have as much fruit as as 4 1/2 pint cakes for 5+ quarts of grain plus another 5 quarts of sub. :thumbdown:Cakes and trays in SGFC yield better. Shea25, tektonic, and macmeridin have good examples of successful cake and tray grows.




tektonic's grow is sick. I can't remember but did he ever provide any details on his FC? You can see those big holes in the bottom but I wonder what else is going on there.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26079010 - 06/28/19 10:33 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

When i was doing my pancakes last I didn't look into tektonic's grows very much because his details... are sparse at best.

I should probably try both cakes proper, and the jar techniques side by side. Won't hurt. I need to make some LC anyways, and can just syringe all that into some pan(brf)cakes too. I'm going to make this happen before the end of the fucking summer goddamnit!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ShaperDreaming] * 2
    #26079031 - 06/28/19 10:44 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

@kayo

Look at it this way. If you could just grow pan cyan in a mono, the whole board would be growing them en masse for the simple reason that the trips are better, they are waaaay more potent than cubes and the fruiting cycle is insanely fast.

The first step to growing them is understanding what they like.
They are picky and they just won't put up with the abuse that cubes will.
Once you understand what they need you could certainly come up with
many low tech methods to provide them.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26079043 - 06/28/19 10:52 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone done bottle tek with pans? I have a few jars of wbs colonized that I'm going to have to wing , but I may go with straw/poo/wbs bottles once I have clean LC.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bumholio]
    #26079047 - 06/28/19 10:54 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

MacMurdin's start off as muda bottles basically: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18357343/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #26079051 - 06/28/19 10:57 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26079072 - 06/28/19 11:11 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome, thanks for responses and links. Yeah I had cakes in the back of my mind as well. So far macmerdin's seems like the way ill go for first try. Just wondering since like many older teks some info can be outdated or more complicated than it needs to be.

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You dont want nutes in your “top layer” coir serves no purpose for pans they like dung & straw.




Yeah the top layer wouldve just been coir, or peat if its better in this case, with verm of course. The sub below would have all the grains and manure.

I do have a fan in my FC. Mostly just to circulate fresh air for a few minutes every hour. I think I see what you mean though. They need more FAE and thus more attention to surface conditions.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kayo] * 3
    #26079080 - 06/28/19 11:17 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

On a side note, I woke up to this text:

"Dude!! Stephanie took about 2.5g of the pans and lost her mind. Cut herself up and smashed her house tried to kill herself. She's ok now but I'm never sending these pans to anyone they are too much"

This person has sat in quite a few Ayahuasca circles too. She told my friend she had never had an experience like that.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26079100 - 06/28/19 11:31 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Yea he detailed it pretty well. He did 1 cube grow and 2 pan grows. The first pan grow with 4 cakes put out 17 dry grams which was less than his 20 cake grow. Weird stuff.

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how did they make paint harder to use? wtf lol



there's also an aquarium heater in the water set to 78f



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i have never had a shotgun fc, i don't think it would work tho

in my tub, the air temp is ~91f @ 95-99% humidity with constant air exchange pushed by a air pump made for a 100 gallon fish tank

cubes blow up in these chambers too, but you have to take the temp way down

but honestly, when i posted threads asking if this would work a few months ago, some people acted like i was wasting my time

some times theres onry one way to find out :vaped:



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it gets pushed out where the lid meets the bin, the lid is just sitting ontop

lights on






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it's a prototype fc of mine, pretty much just bubble wands in warm water, with half a shotgun fc inside :tongue2:



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with this setup i was hoping the warm water on the bottom would help heat & humidify the air needed for fae.
the holes in the bottom of the perlite tray are so the co2 can fall straight down & fresh air can go straight up.
the perlite is for xtra humidity & to elevate the cakes from any falling co2, which i fan out every 6-12 hours




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the fc:

large tub is 26" x 17" x 12"
on the bottom there is 1.5" of water
in the water there are 2x 18" bubble wands attached to a tetra whisper 60 air pump (the 100 is probly better), and a small aquarium heater between them set at 70-72f (cubes) 76-78f (pans)
there's no holes in this tub
2x 24" floro lights sit on the clear lid

the small tub is 16" x 14" x 4" it's sitting ontop of 5x 2" tall jars.
it has about 40 holes the size of a pencil drilled in the bottom, and there's 2" perlite in it, the cakes are on wax paper (i hear myc eats aluminum, but i don't )







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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26079104 - 06/28/19 11:34 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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@kayo

Look at it this way. If you could just grow pan cyan in a mono, the whole board would be growing them en masse for the simple reason that the trips are better, they are waaaay more potent than cubes and the fruiting cycle is insanely fast.

The first step to growing them is understanding what they like.
They are picky and they just won't put up with the abuse that cubes will.
Once you understand what they need you could certainly come up with
many low tech methods to provide them.




Heh, good point. Just trying to understand it myself before things get rolling. At first impression the process seems to be just like cubes minus a few caveats: Poo, thinner sub, and casing layer. Digging deeper it gets a little tougher to tell.

Very excited to get these going though. Cubes are great but I guess the stereotypes and hype left me expecting more. Heard pans were a whole different level.

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On a side note, I woke up to this text:

"Dude!! Stephanie took about 2.5g of the pans and lost her mind. Cut herself up and smashed her house tried to kill herself. She's ok now but I'm never sending these pans to anyone they are too much"

This person has sat in quite a few Ayahuasca circles too. She told my friend she had never had an experience like that.




Holy shit! I was thinking of starting with 3g? Ive done 7g of PE so I figured I could handle it lol. Screw that im starting at 1-2 lol.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 1
    #26079106 - 06/28/19 11:34 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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On a side note, I woke up to this text:

"Dude!! Stephanie took about 2.5g of the pans and lost her mind. Cut herself up and smashed her house tried to kill herself. She's ok now but I'm never sending these pans to anyone they are too much"

This person has sat in quite a few Ayahuasca circles too. She told my friend she had never had an experience like that.



Pans are definitely in a class by themselves.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26079111 - 06/28/19 11:39 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Asura said:
On a side note, I woke up to this text:

"Dude!! Stephanie took about 2.5g of the pans and lost her mind. Cut herself up and smashed her house tried to kill herself. She's ok now but I'm never sending these pans to anyone they are too much"

This person has sat in quite a few Ayahuasca circles too. She told my friend she had never had an experience like that.



Pans are definitely in a class by themselves.



:hotdamn: I hope te fuck I can grow them lol


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kayo]
    #26079151 - 06/28/19 12:05 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Awesome, thanks for responses and links. Yeah I had cakes in the back of my mind as well. So far macmerdin's seems like the way ill go for first try. Just wondering since like many older teks some info can be outdated or more complicated than it needs to be.

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Jakeoncid419 said:
You dont want nutes in your “top layer” coir serves no purpose for pans they like dung & straw.




Yeah the top layer wouldve just been coir, or peat if its better in this case, with verm of course. The sub below would have all the grains and manure.

I do have a fan in my FC. Mostly just to circulate fresh air for a few minutes every hour. I think I see what you mean though. They need more FAE and thus more attention to surface conditions.





My recipe can probably go without all the extras.  I just used it because of store bought poo.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 1
    #26079154 - 06/28/19 12:06 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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On a side note, I woke up to this text:

"Dude!! Stephanie took about 2.5g of the pans and lost her mind. Cut herself up and smashed her house tried to kill herself. She's ok now but I'm never sending these pans to anyone they are too much"

This person has sat in quite a few Ayahuasca circles too. She told my friend she had never had an experience like that.




They call them blue meanies for a reason.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bumholio]
    #26079157 - 06/28/19 12:08 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

If I could follow any tent method I’d follow Mary’s hers seems to be the easiest. But idk my humidifier just got soaked instantly sitting at the bottom of the greenhouse. I guess it doesn’t matter but just made me uneasy. But damn I’d rather have it simple like that then all of the cycling of the JOC tek with two timers and every few minutes


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Legend21]
    #26079161 - 06/28/19 12:13 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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If I could follow any tent method I’d follow Mary’s hers seems to be the easiest. But idk my humidifier just got soaked instantly sitting at the bottom of the greenhouse. I guess it doesn’t matter but just made me uneasy. But damn I’d rather have it simple like that then all of the cycling of the JOC tek with two timers and every few minutes




Click on the link in my sig and go to the section where I detail how to dial it in. Explains how to get things set up for your specific environment so you wont soak everything and you'll be able to run your GH the best it can for your set of circumstances.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26079169 - 06/28/19 12:20 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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If I could follow any tent method I’d follow Mary’s hers seems to be the easiest. But idk my humidifier just got soaked instantly sitting at the bottom of the greenhouse. I guess it doesn’t matter but just made me uneasy. But damn I’d rather have it simple like that then all of the cycling of the JOC tek with two timers and every few minutes




Click on the link in my sig and go to the section where I detail how to dial it in. Explains how to get things set up for your specific environment so you wont soak everything and you'll be able to run your GH the best it can for your set of circumstances.




Seems like the best way to do it. Add one thing at a time and see what’s adding what. Originally I was going to have my Martha inside of my old grow tent. I was then going to humidify and heat the tent accordingly since that would be easier then trying to heat and humidify the whole room. Then last I would have my ultrasonic humidifier inside the Martha tent with the fae actually being hooked up to the grow tent and cycling every so often. But once I stuck the ultrasonic In and saw the humidifier getting  wet I changed my mind. I probably could have still done that and just had the humidifier pipe in.


Keep it simple is what I need to do.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Legend21]
    #26079191 - 06/28/19 12:31 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

You will learn a ton about your environment dialing it in that way. Plus you can have it all set up before you start fruiting. And you know what it will handle. I've had empty trays in mine for like 2 days and could visibly inspect them so I knew I wouldn't be getting moisture build up. It's just a good way to do it no matter what you are growing.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26079201 - 06/28/19 12:37 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I guess I have to stop being lazy and really fiddle with things if I want to expect any good results. Time to start messing around with it now!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Legend21]
    #26079222 - 06/28/19 12:56 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

You guys think it’s better to pipe in from the top or bottom? Or does it really
Matter?


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