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OfflineAsuraS
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
    #25922421 - 04/08/19 06:04 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

In the past I have used 60ml of LC for 1 bag. The latest jam grow used 120ml of LC per bag. I buy boxes of the
60ml syringes by the 100.

As for spawn bags I generally suck at them. The tyvek sleeve method is the only method I have gotten consistently
good results with.

fish has an interesting method, but I have not tried it:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25367454

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25922469 - 04/08/19 06:53 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Got some wild pans in Colombia - took spores - agar - millet - thrown outside with bucket tek manure




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25922471 - 04/08/19 06:54 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Ok guys I got sum of the hausteca printed, most are spoken for but I do have some set aside for my cope heads!  If you post in this thread at least once a week. You get first then I’ll open up while supplies last.




Let me know if you have extras buddy.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Deadhead410]
    #25922474 - 04/08/19 06:55 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you for the link. Seems like a great way of doing it without tyvek sleeves. For fun and experince I will try doing it that way as well. I do agree that Its less work if I get it to work.

Guess I will have to make some LCs and try to find me some big syringes today or tomorrow.
I would just zip tie the bags close as soon as I take them out from the PC and then inoculate them inside my SAB.

I guess you shake the bag well after you inoculated it?

Thanks for your recomendations Asura!

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This is my substrate for pan cyans when I grow using direct inoculation. That is, the substrate is placed in
span bags (3 full quarts each bag), PC'd for 4 hours at 15 psi and upon cool down inoculated with 120ml of LC.

Horse manure 675g
Milo 250g (WBS is fine)
Straw 75g
Vermiculite 100g
Water 1900g

Substrate is over field capacity. By the time PC'ing is done, the bags are inoculated and grown out, moisture
will be perfect.

Ideally, spawn bags should be .5µ versus .2µ. Moisture content is just better at spawning.




Would this work with oats or rye since I do not have Milo? Also, is this recipe with dry grains or have they been hydrated?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
    #25922504 - 04/08/19 07:19 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

aw junk. can't say i'm in here enough to earn a huasteca print from you jake. it's been so stony in my lab lately. looking forward to seeing some more cult members' projects with them, tho! you make it look so easy.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25922624 - 04/08/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Jakeoncid419 said:
Ok guys I got sum of the hausteca printed, most are spoken for but I do have some set aside for my cope heads!  If you post in this thread at least once a week. You get first then I’ll open up while supplies last.





Would love a print, can I pm?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #25922808 - 04/08/19 10:33 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I got u jack, tweeq, deadhead, asura pm me

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25922982 - 04/08/19 11:42 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

@Puduwoke
I fill the bags with a plenum of air from
The flowhood before I seal them. Not sure about any other way or if the filter
patch provides enough air without doing that.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25923027 - 04/08/19 12:07 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I always try to fill my Spohn bags with as much air from my flow hood as possible before I seal it.  The key to Spohn bags is not over filling them or over shaking them.
I have 3 hausteca prints left first 3 to pm me get em


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25923146 - 04/08/19 01:06 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Asura said:
@Puduwoke
I fill the bags with a plenum of air from
The flowhood before I seal them. Not sure about any other way or if the filter
patch provides enough air without doing that.



Since I do not have a flowhood (yet) we will have to see how to will work for me to do it inside the sab I guess "/

Another question I wrote before maybe you mist it or you are busy, but since I do not have milo, could I change it for oats you think, and in your recipe is the grains hydrated or dry?
Quote:

Asura said:
This is my substrate for pan cyans when I grow using direct inoculation. That is, the substrate is placed in
span bags (3 full quarts each bag), PC'd for 4 hours at 15 psi and upon cool down inoculated with 120ml of LC.

Horse manure 675g
Milo 250g (WBS is fine)
Straw 75g
Vermiculite 100g
Water 1900g

Substrate is over field capacity. By the time PC'ing is done, the bags are inoculated and grown out, moisture
will be perfect.

Ideally, spawn bags should be .5µ versus .2µ. Moisture content is just better at spawning.




Thank you Asura, look what you did to me today.. after you wrote I went to the store and got 60ml syringes so I can try what you told me! Got myself 4 of these!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
    #25923618 - 04/08/19 05:46 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

@Puduwoke,

I think any grain would do. But my experience is with milo and WBS, so I can't say for sure.

I add the grains in dry because my sub is a little over field capacity.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25832920

I will be putting out a huge write up on pans soon that will get into all the details.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25923709 - 04/08/19 06:34 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Looking forward to your write up Asura.

If you guys haven't and would like to give Pan Bisporus a run I have swabs available. I only had 2 caps that printed light so I swabbed the prints. Not in MP but standard Marketplace rules apply.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #25923967 - 04/08/19 09:43 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Where going to make a thread but don't want to do all that shit just for one q
Is there a set and forget thing like with Cubensis for Panaeolus


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Geinstein]
    #25924016 - 04/08/19 10:29 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

i reckon if there were, we'd see a lot more people growing them.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25924045 - 04/08/19 10:56 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

@Asura can not wait for your write up!:takingnotes:
Perfect timing since I have my first pans on agar T6 looking good and uniform as we speak.
I will try using oats in your recipe. Also since I do not have a flowhood I will not good a lot of air into my substrate bag once in the SAB after PCed so I will tell you how that goes also.

@MF,Jake And Asura you guys rock and thanks for all the help you given me and the community!:leocheers:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #25924069 - 04/08/19 11:15 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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i reckon if there were, we'd see a lot more people growing them.



True
Well if anyone knows of one:shrug:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Geinstein]
    #25924101 - 04/08/19 11:35 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Geinstein said:
Quote:

J. Jack Flash said:
i reckon if there were, we'd see a lot more people growing them.



True
Well if anyone knows of one:shrug:



I mean they can be grown in a traditional mono with just a few alterations to the design you’re not going to get a full tub or anything but you wil get a few clusters. you will have to do some hand watering but that’s about as low maintenance as they get lol Well not even low maintenance building a Fruits in chamber with a system is more low maintenance but requires effort and some money and space and all that do you want low maintenance or just low cost?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25924104 - 04/08/19 11:39 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Jakeoncid419 said:
Quote:

Geinstein said:
Quote:

J. Jack Flash said:
i reckon if there were, we'd see a lot more people growing them.



True
Well if anyone knows of one:shrug:



I mean they can be grown in a traditional mono with just a few alterations to the design you’re not going to get a full tub or anything but you wil get a few clusters. you will have to do some hand watering but that’s about as low maintenance as they get lol Well not even low maintenance building a Fruits in chamber with a system is more low maintenance but requires effort and some money and space and all that do you want low maintenance or just low cost?



Low maintenance
Don't care to much about cost as long as its not ridiculous


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Geinstein]
    #25924165 - 04/09/19 12:52 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Geinstein said:
Quote:

Jakeoncid419 said:
Quote:

Geinstein said:
Quote:

J. Jack Flash said:
i reckon if there were, we'd see a lot more people growing them.



True
Well if anyone knows of one:shrug:



I mean they can be grown in a traditional mono with just a few alterations to the design you’re not going to get a full tub or anything but you wil get a few clusters. you will have to do some hand watering but that’s about as low maintenance as they get lol Well not even low maintenance building a Fruits in chamber with a system is more low maintenance but requires effort and some money and space and all that do you want low maintenance or just low cost?



Low maintenance
Don't care to much about cost as long as its not ridiculous



I mean my Martha set up is pretty low maintenance just to make sure the humidifier stays for now you always want to check on your projects to make sure they don’t contaminate but in a Martha it’s more important as you often have more than one substrate in the Martha at a time and you don’t want it to spread however I also did a modded tub system bro I think both grow specs are in my pan Australia thread I also have a thread called modded fruiting chamber’s check them out


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25924181 - 04/09/19 01:22 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Cool
I've got a Martha just haven't used it in some time


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