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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 345536345]
    #25882454 - 03/18/19 06:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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So this talk of straw is good timing because I'm about to pick some up.  Any pics / measurements on what would be a good average piece length to shoot for?  Amazon's got EZ-Straw Just Straw which is a cut down / processed version of a straw bale but that would be too easy no?



I usually cut mine down till they are 2-3 inch at longest


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25884423 - 03/19/19 07:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I transferred some Pan Aussies from agar to grain and they seem stalled out.  Its been 4 days  Not growing at all off the agar.  The cultures came out of the fridge, could that of done some harm?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rickyswamps]
    #25884426 - 03/19/19 07:53 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Sure. Healthy pan  myc should tear thru a quart jar in 7-10 days. Is your grain too wet? Too dry?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25884435 - 03/19/19 07:56 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Grains seem about right.  Not that the mycelium would really know.  I dropped the wedge in these jars and didn't move anything around.  So its just sitting on top of the agar still…


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rickyswamps]
    #25884439 - 03/19/19 08:00 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Grains seem about right.  Not that the mycelium would really know.  I dropped the wedge in these jars and didn't move anything around.  So its just sitting on top of the agar still…



Shake that jar so hard u tear ur wedge apart


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25884450 - 03/19/19 08:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

:snoopyes: I like your style


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25884844 - 03/19/19 11:45 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Jake. Do you shake your pan jars at around 20% colonized or leave them? Read that some people do not shake pan jars. But I will rather do what you do. :cheers:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #25885621 - 03/20/19 11:40 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Noob questions!  So all things considered, I am happy with my latest results.  I have some much denser flushes of Pan Cy Big Island.  It seems like the fruits are really small though.  I have also heard that there are really crap genetics going around and these are from a vendor well known to this forum. 

I have also read here that using poo is the single biggest factor in increasing yield.  I used the recipe from Blue Helix well documents Pan Aus grow from 05, and used zoodoo in place of Agar's compost.  I am wondering if my zoodoo was not totally dry when I weighed it and perhaps my sub is light on zoodoo.  I read that growing on grain alone would produce small fruits so maybe my sub is too grainy? 

I have similar sized fruits growing on different subs with different poo-based compost so that seems to be pointing to the genetics. 

I feel like my growing conditions are good.  I have been using a syringe to water the casing layer so as not to get water on the fruit.  Humidity is probably around 97%.  I am pulling fresh air through polyfill into my GH by sucking air out the bottom fro 15 mins on the hour and filling the vents at the top of the GH with polyfill and I can feel air flow through the polyfill with my fingers.

I intend to move onto Pan Jams to see if the genetics are better.  I have good looking trays of Pan Cam Sandose but they have not fruited yet.  Those are from a different vendor so who knows.

Thoughts?

Im still sifting through all the info on this forum so forgive me if some of these answers are more easily found in searches.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: LeftSideDriver]
    #25885910 - 03/20/19 02:28 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys,

My Pan Cyan Hawaii dishes (T2 clones from the kit) are looking great but growth is slow. Ambient temp is pretty low. Could that be it?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25886155 - 03/20/19 04:32 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Here are the mystery pans full grown.... what y’all think? Keep in mind it moved at about 30% the speed as my other pans on agar not to mention looked much thicker




If you want, you can send me a few gill fragments that have been dried completely and I will be happy to do spore measurements to see what you have. Send me a PM if you're interested.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
    #25886665 - 03/20/19 08:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Here are the mystery pans full grown.... what y’all think? Keep in mind it moved at about 30% the speed as my other pans on agar not to mention looked much thicker




If you want, you can send me a few gill fragments that have been dried completely and I will be happy to do spore measurements to see what you have. Send me a PM if you're interested.



thanks man I appreciate it but my micrometer should arrive anyday however I will need help determining what the size means. all I really know is pan cam are bigger than pan cyan


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #25887805 - 03/21/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Well I can't tell whether the size is smaller than what they should be or not but I am pleased with the density of my second attempt at Pan Cyans Big Island Hawaii:



Sub is Zoodoo, vermiculite, straw, a little gypsum and some bee pollen!  No grains in this one. 

Harvesting is painstaking as I don't want to rip put a lot of the casing.

Can I re-case in spots after harvest and before the second flush?

A noteworthy data point here is how much better the Zoodoo works vs the poo based compost from Out-Grow.  This one is the same sub but with Out-Grow compost instead of Zoodoo:



Similarly these two trays have the same genetics but the one on the left is Out-Grow and Straw and Vermiculite and the one on the right is Zoodoo, Vermiculite, WBS, and Rye... so not apples to apples but I think the Zoodoo wins:



No pins yet with Pan Cy KG Aus or from Pan Cambo Sandose with the same subs.  Hmmm.  The Pan Cambos certainly look good through the bottom of the glass tray though.

Thanks everyone on here for the advice!  I am still dialing things in and trying to figure out how to get bigger fruits from the Big Islanders but I will need to work with different genetics to be sure.  Moving on to the Pan Jams next!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: LeftSideDriver] * 1
    #25887961 - 03/21/19 12:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Are you sure those are pans?  Look like tamps….

Please, let the experts come in and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rickyswamps] * 1
    #25887985 - 03/21/19 12:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Def tamps/G/alt7 w/e u wanna call em


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rickyswamps] * 1
    #25888102 - 03/21/19 01:07 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Are you sure those are pans?  Look like tamps….

Please, let the experts come in and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.



Tampanensis is not a panaeolus/copelandia species, it is a species of Psilocybe.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
    #25888183 - 03/21/19 01:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Are you sure those are pans?  Look like tamps….

Please, let the experts come in and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.



Tampanensis is not a panaeolus/copelandia species, it is a species of Psilocybe.




Yep.  That is understood.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151] * 1
    #25888202 - 03/21/19 01:53 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Here are some shots of a ms Australia (hunting for trates) and the miss label mystery pan. They look similar in color but the aussies caps are not nearly as dome like as the mystery pan(2 pics on right) the mystery pins also have white caps where as the Australia are a lil Golden. Idk Part of me thinks I missed labeled a tray because it acted so differently on agar I can’t imagine it’s the same. I have some more trays of it coming up if they are more pans then it was a miss labeled print and  I doubt I will ever know the exact strain if it is  A cyan.  But if I get it  Subtrops then I know I just wrote on the wrong tray lol.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rickyswamps]
    #25889359 - 03/22/19 12:21 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Are you sure those are pans?  Look like tamps….

Please, let the experts come in and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.




Mind Blown.  I looked at quite a view pics and you are correct!  I don´t know whether to laugh or cry. This is a good problem to have though.  I learned to grow something other than cubes but I was convinced these were Pan Cy.  Trying to figure out where the mistake was made and I must have grabbed the wrong jar of LC and injected a bag and then labeled it Pan Cy.  I went ahead and few it once, and then cloned it, and grew these.  This also explains a LOT.  I was thinking as I crumbled into the tray...I don´t remember pouting Brazil nuts in my sub!  There were large hard things in the  sub that were way bigger than anything I put in it!  I probably threw some of them out too. Lol.  And lookin at pics of sclerotia forming in jars...yup! Got those too!  The potency was also quite strong!  I ate1.3g and spent 4 hours in a hot tub and thought I was communicating with whales and their ancient dinosaur ancestors.  It was amazing.  They caused my eyes to dialate more than any other substance I´ve ever had.

So I will take the rest of this discussion the other forum. As I now have a zillion questions for how to deal with what I have!

The bad part is that I am have gotten exactly 0 Panaeolus fruit and I it turns out they are harder than I thought.  My Pan Cambo tray looks amazing from the underside though!  The Aussies are in opaque trays and I can not see any myc in the casing yet and its been almost a couple weeks I think.  Crossing my fingers.

Good eye Ricky.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: LeftSideDriver]
    #25889380 - 03/22/19 12:56 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Panaeolus cambodginiensis-
Got this gifted to me, any peer reviews? I understand it'll be difficult, but all the help I can get will make this better in the long run, now; who can point me in the proper direction.
I've done search bar, not what I'm looking for. Recipes, temps, RH%, grow logs will help also. Also,
On my phone so it's difficult to look up identifying information.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr. Funguy]
    #25889667 - 03/22/19 08:08 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Shameless fuckin' crosspost of my first Bisporus pin! It emerged after some watering of the substrate. The sub is pasteurized cowshit (NOT aged), cased with some moss, forest soil and sand.

Bunch of Trich spots developed in the sub, which I am not proud of, but hey... I got pins!



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