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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
    #25851541 - 03/04/19 10:00 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Rabbit poo is about 4 times "hotter" than hpoo. I'm not sure how it would work. It might be ok. I think you have
just volunteered to test for us :lol:

I have a local source for bat guano and I've been told that is way too high in nitrogen for mycelium. But again,
I've never tested it.



That's why it must be aged, never fresh,  if it smells anything like poo, urine or ammonia, it's not ready.  Rabbit poo is something I haven't tried but I bet it's kick ass, it works good for weed:awesomenod:





Rabbit manure is one of the only manures that can actually be used fresh without burning plants.  Most people prefer to compost it, but if you're careful with your mix you might as well run a chute from the bunny butthole to the ground.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #25851601 - 03/04/19 10:28 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Looking for some experienced eyes on these Pan Aus plates.  Does this look right?  Came from Asura's print.



And these Pan Hawaii grain jars.  The rye jar was shaken and recovered to look like this.  It hasn't changed much in the last couple days.  The oats jar is very wet.  Weird because it was dry for the whole time it consolidated.  I wanted to G2G, but now I dunno. 



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rickyswamps]
    #25852088 - 03/04/19 01:28 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Why consolidate if you are g2ging?

Or did you mean colonizing?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
    #25852304 - 03/04/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Several months ago I managed to get some Pan Cyans Big Island Hawaii to fruit in a terrarium.  It was a meager flush that yielded about 2.7g dried in the end.  It was kind of weird because it was just a gradual flush that eventually just stopped.  Substrate was straw, vermiculite, and zoodoo. I finally tried them and whoa... ok must grow more! 

Anyway, I cloned the biggest fruit and now I am about to try and get more serious.  I have two gorgeous looking bags of almost fully colonized substrate.  One is Pan Cy Hawaii and the other is Pan Cambo Sandose.  The substrate recipe is from Blue Helix's Pan Cy Ausie grow from 2005 that was documented so well.  So its WBS, Rye, ZooDoo (instead of Agar's compost), Stevia leaf, and black mustard.  Instead of LC inoculation, I used colonized rye.  Interestingly the Aus jar seemed to go anaerobic on me and it never took to the bulk sub.

So how to grow these in the same GH as Cubes?  I have three shelves in my GH and thus far I have used a fogger setup that just pumped fog into the air from a single hole on top of the container.  I am going to put proper ducting in there though since intend to more densely pack the GH with trays of cubes and I need to better distribute the humidity. 

So where to put the pans? Should I maybe not put ducting on one of the shelves so it gets less humidity?  Does the humidity tend to sink in a GH or does it end up more humid on the top shelves?

I have a very good temperature and humidity sensor and it is on the middle shelf.

I am thinking I should put the Pans on the top shelf with no ducting going up there.  It should also be the warmest part of the GH which is set to 76ΒΊ F.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: LeftSideDriver]
    #25852312 - 03/04/19 03:07 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Growing pans is all about evaporation the more of operation you can cause the better they will do however this means you must re-hydrate your casing constantly or it will dry out and your fruits will fry . If you go back through this thread you will see a lot of information on this also check out my These
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25724359


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25852384 - 03/04/19 03:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks!  I have definitely looked at most of that material and its been very helpful! 

I think some of my previous failed attempts were because of too much humidity and not enough evaporation.  I feel like when i neglected the one successful tray I had, and turned off the janky mister, thats when it pinned...so i will pay close attention to it this time around!

I intend on injecting the casing using a syringe as others have recommended. 

It does seem like the cube trays on the top shelf of my GH are dryer than the ones lower down so I am thinking thats where the pans should go.

I also have an ozone generator that is ozonating the water in my mister.  I think this is doing the same thing as your oxygen condenser, but through the mister, right?

I also have that same reptifogger in a different FC and I LOVE your solution to get rid of the big water droplets!  I am going to rig something like that up soon. I have a "pancake" experiment thats almost ready to go in the other FC


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: LeftSideDriver]
    #25852391 - 03/04/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Several months ago I managed to get some Pan Cyans Big Island Hawaii to fruit in a terrarium.  It was a meager flush that yielded about 2.7g dried in the end.  It was kind of weird because it was just a gradual flush that eventually just stopped.  Substrate was straw, vermiculite, and zoodoo. I finally tried them and whoa... ok must grow more! 

Anyway, I cloned the biggest fruit and now I am about to try and get more serious.  I have two gorgeous looking bags of almost fully colonized substrate.  One is Pan Cy Hawaii and the other is Pan Cambo Sandose.  The substrate recipe is from Blue Helix's Pan Cy Ausie grow from 2005 that was documented so well.  So its WBS, Rye, ZooDoo (instead of Agar's compost), Stevia leaf, and black mustard.  Instead of LC inoculation, I used colonized rye.  Interestingly the Aus jar seemed to go anaerobic on me and it never took to the bulk sub.

So how to grow these in the same GH as Cubes?  I have three shelves in my GH and thus far I have used a fogger setup that just pumped fog into the air from a single hole on top of the container.  I am going to put proper ducting in there though since intend to more densely pack the GH with trays of cubes and I need to better distribute the humidity. 

So where to put the pans? Should I maybe not put ducting on one of the shelves so it gets less humidity?  Does the humidity tend to sink in a GH or does it end up more humid on the top shelves?

I have a very good temperature and humidity sensor and it is on the middle shelf.

I am thinking I should put the Pans on the top shelf with no ducting going up there.  It should also be the warmest part of the GH which is set to 76ΒΊ F.

Thoughts?




LC inoculation is probably one of the most important aspects of Blue Helix's method. The sub is light on grain
so you need a lot of culture.

I would just make the conditions in the GH right for pans and put the cubes somewhere else. I do all my cubes in
shoeboxes and they are half way across the house just sitting on a shelf.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25852404 - 03/04/19 03:55 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Asura!  I like the idea of favoring the pans.  The containers that the cubes are in are very shoe box like.  They are 3 qt tubs.  So I could just cover each of the the cube tubs with another tub but keep them all within the GH.  That should keep the humidity good for the cubes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25852735 - 03/04/19 06:25 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Growing pans is all about evaporation the more of operation you can cause the better they will do however this means you must re-hydrate your casing constantly or it will dry out and your fruits will fry . If you go back through this thread you will see a lot of information on this also check out my These
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25698246
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25724359




Can this be easily achieved with bottom watering, or only via misting?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TwonkyD]
    #25852751 - 03/04/19 06:30 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

How would you rehydrate a casing with bottom watering?

Of course you would mist the surface.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TwonkyD]
    #25852756 - 03/04/19 06:31 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I do it by cycling my fan and fogger. My fogger kicks on fills tent then while it’s running the fan kicks on drawing in fresh air thru the hepa at the top of the tent the fan down low drags the fog down into the trays on its way out rehydrating your casing. Then the fogger kicks off and the fan continues to run for a minute filling the tent with hot dry air. This causes rapid evaporation. Then 10 min or so later the fogger kicks on and the process repeats. The pan mono system I built follows the same concept.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Rad Aghast]
    #25853144 - 03/04/19 09:36 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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And here's the third flush from my aussie shoeboxes :smile: I'm not getting any prints out of these, they are so small





that little shoebox did pretty good!



Well done hazelnut! Did u clone ur largest fruits?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25853326 - 03/05/19 12:25 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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And here's the third flush from my aussie shoeboxes :smile: I'm not getting any prints out of these, they are so small





Great looking tray Hazelnut. Congratulations!

@Jake: a few weeks back ppl were talking about self watering trays for pans, on this thread I think. Has anyone tried that yet? Because I'm going to try that for sure. I think I have a basic design for them. Clean tube with a cotton string inside from a soda bottle into the tray and spiral that string all through the casing. Capillary action should keep moisture levels high

Got to this experiment. Couldn't find any info on it. Any thoughts guys, Jake?

Thanks!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25853892 - 03/05/19 09:42 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Whats a good cycle timer for this kind of setup?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: LeftSideDriver]
    #25854066 - 03/05/19 11:02 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Whats a good cycle timer for this kind of setup?




This is the timer i use.

It is "da bomb" They might even use this timer for bombs. Its that good.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Rad Aghast]
    #25854071 - 03/05/19 11:04 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

i have one of those too! but black:awesomenod:


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    #25854092 - 03/05/19 11:14 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
    #25854149 - 03/05/19 11:43 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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I use an Arduino and SSR for a humidifier timer. You can use it to have many outputs and has infinite program-ability.




Have you ever tried the arduino humidity sensors?

Wondering about the quality/accuracy of those.


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