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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25822805 - 02/19/19 01:50 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Damn Jake.  Consistently killin’ it!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25822816 - 02/19/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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You really got this! Nice looking trays


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #25822822 - 02/19/19 01:57 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Update on my Aussie re-casing:

I initially cased with peat, coir and verm.  Was too thick and think I packed it down too much.  New casing is sifted peat with CaCO3.  Sub is recovering and there are signs of pins starting.  Hopefully they don’t abort this time.





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #25823202 - 02/19/19 05:12 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I wish my goddamn bisporus would pin. Day 10 and counting. Dropped humidity below 90 and cranked the heat up a little
bit. Hopefully something soon.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #25823250 - 02/19/19 05:38 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the love tweeq and BB! im really loving the aussies every time I try and move on I always end up getting incredible looking dishes and jars and just cant help but grow em out.

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Update on my Aussie re-casing:

I initially cased with peat, coir and verm.  Was too thick and think I packed it down too much.  New casing is sifted peat with CaCO3.  Sub is recovering and there are signs of pins starting.  Hopefully they don’t abort this time.








first off I would say these look a little dry also it looks like your case is a little thick. you barely want to cover your sub. if you cant still see myc through ur case its too thick. I actually just botched a tray this way just last week, just a little bit to thick and it drowned the sub underneath I got a few pins but ultimately it was a dud I tried to soak and re case but I had just been to much trauma for the sub and I only got a few fruits. defiantly thin your casing on your next attempt. Congrats on the pins tho! I know I was over the moon at my first pan pins.

Asura, I almost ordered bisp last night but ended up getting pan cam instead.def hold me a print if you get them up. ive heard mixed reviews on them. I should have pan Hvsta here very soon and as far as Ive seen no one else has that so I will be printing my ass off on them lol. also subtrop is very close although I have seen some of those out there. I should be getting the Acutely Umbonate Hoog in the next month or so but that has been like my Elenore. everytime I almost get it sumthing fucks up.

well here are sum tamps for ur eyeholes


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hazelnut]
    #25823394 - 02/19/19 06:37 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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In your experience, do you find too much, or lack of, water has much impact on fruit size?



I like the case to be ALMOST saturated with water up to and during pinning- meaning just get the case to the point where it starts to glisten with water either with a syringe or a sprayer, then DONT add any more water, thats plenty. In a minute that water should spread thru the case and no longer glisten- but just look damp. The way I see it- that will be enough water to saturate the case down to the substrate level.  If the case always looks like its glistening then its too wet. If you have slow growth anyway then the problem is not moisture level of the case.

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Is it possible for the sub to lose too much water, even when the casing moisture is maintained?


Not that I know of, unless the sub didn't have enough water to start with. When the sub loses water it will contract away from the walls of the tray- that happens even with strong grows anyway.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25823473 - 02/19/19 07:07 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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I wish my goddamn bisporus would pin. Day 10 and counting. Dropped humidity below 90 and cranked the heat up a little
bit. Hopefully something soon.



I know dude. They're so fucking slow lol.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
    #25823643 - 02/19/19 08:21 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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I like the case to be ALMOST saturated with water up to and during pinning- meaning just get the case to the point where it starts to glisten with water either with a syringe or a sprayer, then DONT add any more water, thats plenty. In a minute that water should spread thru the case and no longer glisten- but just look damp. The way I see it- that will be enough water to saturate the case down to the substrate level.  If the case always looks like its glistening then its too wet. If you have slow growth anyway then the problem is not moisture level of the case.




Mary - for this I have some small water "pools" resting on top of my Cambo tray currently consolidating and waiting to be put into fruiting.  I drained off the top by angling the tray but think dabbing with paper towels is probably more efficient and less risky.  Is that what you've typically done?  No lift-off of the myc when doing so?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 345536345]
    #25823698 - 02/19/19 08:42 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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mary fairchild said:
I like the case to be ALMOST saturated with water up to and during pinning- meaning just get the case to the point where it starts to glisten with water either with a syringe or a sprayer, then DONT add any more water, thats plenty. In a minute that water should spread thru the case and no longer glisten- but just look damp. The way I see it- that will be enough water to saturate the case down to the substrate level.  If the case always looks like its glistening then its too wet. If you have slow growth anyway then the problem is not moisture level of the case.




Mary - for this I have some small water "pools" resting on top of my Cambo tray currently consolidating and waiting to be put into fruiting.  I drained off the top by angling the tray but think dabbing with paper towels is probably more efficient and less risky.  Is that what you've typically done?  No lift-off of the myc when doing so?




All my trays usually have these pools to various degrees. I just put the casing on top. If you cover the trays
with foil and poke a few holes in the top (like RR does) you will have less pooling. I've started doing this
lately and my trays are coming out fine.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25823737 - 02/19/19 09:01 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

That's what I did with the previous trays that I cased and put to fruiting - just cased over them assuming the casing would absorb some and those appear to be moving along fine.  For these other ones they're in consolidation so I still have another 5 days or so and wasn't sure if that water would somehow harm the myc or not over that period.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25823936 - 02/20/19 12:20 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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345536345 said:
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mary fairchild said:
I like the case to be ALMOST saturated with water up to and during pinning- meaning just get the case to the point where it starts to glisten with water either with a syringe or a sprayer, then DONT add any more water, thats plenty. In a minute that water should spread thru the case and no longer glisten- but just look damp. The way I see it- that will be enough water to saturate the case down to the substrate level.  If the case always looks like its glistening then its too wet. If you have slow growth anyway then the problem is not moisture level of the case.




Mary - for this I have some small water "pools" resting on top of my Cambo tray currently consolidating and waiting to be put into fruiting.  I drained off the top by angling the tray but think dabbing with paper towels is probably more efficient and less risky.  Is that what you've typically done?  No lift-off of the myc when doing so?




All my trays usually have these pools to various degrees. I just put the casing on top. If you cover the trays
with foil and poke a few holes in the top (like RR does) you will have less pooling. I've started doing this
lately and my trays are coming out fine.




Same here- If there's a lot of water/metabolites, I sop em up with a paper towel. Otherwise when you lay the case it should absorb it.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
    #25824445 - 02/20/19 09:31 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Bisporus spawned to a flowerpot, Cowshit on top, watered. This is a permaculture attempt - the pot is mostly Azurescens on wood, but in the top grassy layer I want to have Bisporus myc. Just an experiment.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #25824470 - 02/20/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

⭕️ Of life



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25825140 - 02/20/19 02:07 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I have 5 very nice, dark prints of specimens in the panaeolus cyanescens group. I will send them to the 1st  five shroomery members with at least:

3yrs on shroomery and 500 post, so, if you have been here at least 3yrs and have 500 or more post, you qualify, will ship anywhere in the world.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
    #25825169 - 02/20/19 02:17 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Hope u still have one in 16 months :lol: cool giveaway tho.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25825171 - 02/20/19 02:18 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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You're killing it man!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
    #25825217 - 02/20/19 02:40 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Very nice of you keep it up man!  :bow2:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
    #25825239 - 02/20/19 02:51 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Which pans are the strongest colonizers? Which have less issues with overlay? Are they all similar potency?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #25825430 - 02/20/19 03:54 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Which pans are the strongest colonizers? Which have less issues with overlay? Are they all similar potency?



It’s more a matter of what genetics you have as far as colonizers but pan aus and pan cam have always givin me good genetics. There are sum pan jam genetics out there than are prone to overlay and I had pan Hawaii do it to me, however allowing additional incubation time before casing seems to deter it from happening. As far as potency goes most pans are about 3-5x as potent as cubes however their chemical make up can vary greatly from strain to strain. The Australian for example are mostly psilocin while the pan Hawaii has mostly psilocybin. Pans are also the only species that makes serotonin, so the effects of pan trips feel very different 1 to another and very different than other species ime.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25825702 - 02/20/19 05:16 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Speaking of Pan Jams….

I'm going to case this tonight:



I have let it sit colonized for a few days, part because of suggestions I have heard and part because I didn't have time to pasteurize casing.  Its forming aerial blobs which are even higher than a 1/4" casing layer I want to put down.  :rofl2:  Anyone have any words of advice on getting this to work out…

It is 50/50 cow manure compost and coir.  Spawned to bulk from grain.


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