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Asura
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
#25791319 - 02/04/19 05:48 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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nube424 said: This may be a stupid question, but when pans abort, they get black caps like cubes? Or do they just stop growing?
I have this 1 fruit that's been the exact same size for 2 days now. All the pins are still growing tho.
They don't get black. They just won't grow. If it hasn't grown in two days, it's done.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25791332 - 02/04/19 05:55 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Asura said:
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nube424 said: This may be a stupid question, but when pans abort, they get black caps like cubes? Or do they just stop growing?
I have this 1 fruit that's been the exact same size for 2 days now. All the pins are still growing tho.
They don't get black. They just won't grow. If it hasn't grown in two days, it's done.
if they get too wet they will bruise dark blue and stall out
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25791337 - 02/04/19 05:57 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks guys! No bruising, it just stopped growing. It was the first fruit to pop up so it's no big deal. Everything else is growing fine.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#25791537 - 02/04/19 07:21 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tweeq said: Making some prints of our Copelandia Kit.

So they did it.
I was in Innerspace a few months ago and the woman there told me that the manufacturer has almost got it right with copelandia kits.
Which strain are you growing?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#25791596 - 02/04/19 07:48 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tweeq said: Making some prints of our Copelandia Kit.

I never would have expected a kit to produce that in a million years. Good job, Tweeq.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hacendado]
#25791892 - 02/04/19 11:18 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hacendado said:
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Tweeq said: Making some prints of our Copelandia Kit.

So they did it.
I was in Innerspace a few months ago and the woman there told me that the manufacturer has almost got it right with copelandia kits.
Which strain are you growing?
Yes apparently they did it! They call this one the Ogre Boy strain. Nothing wrong with a little marketing:) But what species of paneolus it actually is, I don't know. Would be glad to share some prints so the cracks can tell us what we have here. Just IM me if you're interested
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25791899 - 02/04/19 11:23 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks Asura! Made these prints to share. So IM if you'd like to have one.
Also I think this strain is just a bit more user friendly in the sense that they probably found and isolated an easier to grow substrain so even I could pull it off:)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#25792363 - 02/05/19 08:10 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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A new print is a new array of genetics: would likely take years of work to stabilize an "easy fruiter"... that said, I'd bee interested in a print!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
#25792404 - 02/05/19 08:28 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: A new print is a new array of genetics: would likely take years of work to stabilize an "easy fruiter"... that said, I'd bee interested in a print! 
Yes, you'd have to start all over with the selection process. So if I take a clone it would still have these characteristics? Like easy fruiting ie?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#25792407 - 02/05/19 08:31 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Point was, I doubt it's the case... it's likely MS, and a clone will have similar characteristics to the fruit it originated from
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#25792439 - 02/05/19 08:46 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Could I get some advise on this casing recipe, for casing pan cyan aussie? How crucial is it that I get the correct PH? I tried measuring the PH with some PH strips, but it always seemed to come out around 7, regardless of how much lime I added
And should i be using distilled water for my substrate and casing?
5.5 cups peat moss 5.5 cups coarse vermiculite 0.5 cup gypsum 6 teaspoons hydrated lime tap water to bring to field capacity
cheers!
Edited by hazelnut (02/05/19 08:50 AM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hazelnut]
#25792851 - 02/05/19 12:25 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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hazelnut said: Could I get some advise on this casing recipe, for casing pan cyan aussie? How crucial is it that I get the correct PH? I tried measuring the PH with some PH strips, but it always seemed to come out around 7, regardless of how much lime I added
And should i be using distilled water for my substrate and casing?
5.5 cups peat moss 5.5 cups coarse vermiculite 0.5 cup gypsum 6 teaspoons hydrated lime tap water to bring to field capacity
cheers!
don't overthink it kust 50/50 peat moss and verm. I do 4 quarts of each and just a teaspoon of HL. 6 is def way to many unless ur making a rack of casing. the peat moss ph does not throw it off as much as ppl make it sound. (usually) also if you want to increase you margin for error lay your HL out on a cookie sheet and bake at 250 I think it is for a hour to convert it . your pasteurization and application technique is more important ps I don't know how important it is but I use distilled water for EVERYTHING. make my own and get it at Costco
Also gypsum is a scam lol like diamonds you do not need it. Maybe if ur using str8 non crimped oats it will help keep it from clumping but, yeah Iβm pretty sure itβs something that in theory helps and it definitely doesnβt hurt to add it so it is hyped up so that people buy it from online vendors. they then re-bag in a little Ziploc and charge you 10 times the amount they paid for it.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
#25792988 - 02/05/19 02:00 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: Point was, I doubt it's the case... it's likely MS, and a clone will have similar characteristics to the fruit it originated from
Ah ok. Now I see what you mean. Maybe you can tell what variety it is by raising them up?
My 'clones' that I just took are so full of spores that I doubt I'm cloning anything. If anything grows it will likely be MS too, am I right? Well, at least I put sΓ³mething to agar:) We'll see what happens. My next try at cloning however will be with a big cubensis fruit, for sure. Haven't quite got that surgeon's hand yet.. Can't wait to see if it'll grow. Just keep at rt is what I hear.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#25793031 - 02/05/19 02:27 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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My first go at pans http://
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SFS96]
#25793080 - 02/05/19 02:56 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I typically take clones from unopened fruit, or stipes that have been rinsed and the cap removed... to avoid inadvertently starting over
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
#25793126 - 02/05/19 03:33 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: I typically take clones from unopened fruit, or stipes that have been rinsed and the cap removed... to avoid inadvertently starting over
I'm still very much a noob at all of this. I'll do it like you say in the above next time!
But still, if it grows, we hope to be able to a2g it after a transfer, or several, idk. Making some mistakes can hardly be avoided but usually that's were one learns:) Thanks for sharing that knowledge of yours man!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#25793203 - 02/05/19 04:16 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: Point was, I doubt it's the case... it's likely MS, and a clone will have similar characteristics to the fruit it originated from
Ah ok. Now I see what you mean. Maybe you can tell what variety it is by raising them up?
My 'clones' that I just took are so full of spores that I doubt I'm cloning anything. If anything grows it will likely be MS too, am I right? Well, at least I put sΓ³mething to agar:) We'll see what happens. My next try at cloning however will be with a big cubensis fruit, for sure. Haven't quite got that surgeon's hand yet.. Can't wait to see if it'll grow. Just keep at rt is what I hear.
if you check out my you tube channel in my sig I do a video of a pan clone from a inner stem tissue.
here it is now these are tamps but they are even smaller, however ve successfully done it with pans also I think I have a video of one but I cant find atm but its the exact same as this but with pans
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
#25793288 - 02/05/19 05:05 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: A new print is a new array of genetics: would likely take years of work to stabilize an "easy fruiter"... that said, I'd bee interested in a print! 
I don't think this is entirely true. Certain traits (like tendency to overlay for instance) will get passed on.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25793298 - 02/05/19 05:07 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting... in a single generation? Hmmm...
Pan Aussie: SOMETHING is growing!

Thx again Asura!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hazelnut]
#25793303 - 02/05/19 05:09 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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hazelnut said: Could I get some advise on this casing recipe, for casing pan cyan aussie? How crucial is it that I get the correct PH? I tried measuring the PH with some PH strips, but it always seemed to come out around 7, regardless of how much lime I added
And should i be using distilled water for my substrate and casing?
5.5 cups peat moss 5.5 cups coarse vermiculite 0.5 cup gypsum 6 teaspoons hydrated lime tap water to bring to field capacity
cheers!
That's a fuck ton of lime. Where did you get this recipe from?
This will give you EXACTLY what you want for casing:
260g vermiculite 280g peat 800g distilled water 60g calcium carbonate .6g calcium hydroxide <- don't overlook that decimal!
Makes about 5 quarts
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