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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
    #25770229 - 01/26/19 02:28 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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I did a first agar transfer of the assie print and it's going ok so far.

I had a cpu fan in my fruiting chamber stop working at some point, so i didn't have good air equilibrium in my fc for awhile. Replaced the fan with a newer one (i'm not surprised it stopped working since these fans are like 15 or 20 yrs old). Added water to my vaporizer/fogger and i didn't seat the water properly and so I didn't have proper humidity for a day; fixed that.

I supposed i should preface this part with don't do what i do here.  I opened up my colonized rye berry jars (pan cyan jam) and there was some green mold on the surface. I used my patented method here and scouped out the mold with a spoon and spawned the remaining rye berries to some horse poo substrate (65% my dried horse poo, 17.5 coir, 17.5 verm) on 1/24.  It's showing signs of life now.

I think the problem comes from using micropore tape on the holes in the lid of the jars since the mold was only found on the surface (it's not from lack of PC'ing the jar). I got some synthetic filter disks for the jars now (1/4" hole and filter cut and glued with Hi Temp RTV...stuff from shroomsupply)...and i'll be doing all the operations in a SAB garnished with a little sterile technique. Hope this'll take care of the mold and give me a good chance of success.

I had some old spawn (maybe a few months old) rye berries and i added that to a ballmill horse poo substrate a few weeks ago and it hasn't shown hardly any sign of growth. I guess spawn needs to be used shortly after 100% colonization. I've heard the general practice to do things fast with pans.

Sometimes it's better to learn from failures than it is to do everything right, right away.

That's my pan update.

I'm starting from spores from my old pan cyan jam print if this pan cyan jam that i just spawned fails.

I have a whole list of future manures to try for my future grows from pan cyan assie (thanks again Asura for the print!!!).



Yeah ur problem was most definitely ur spawn, scooping contams like that will never work you canโ€™t see it but all ur spawn was compromised, not to mention if you did it in ur lab area you likely have mold spores everywhere. you will definitely need to do a thorough cleaning before you try again.  As for your fruiting chamber you still need to allow the CO2 to exit your tub. the fan will blow air in however as CO2 is heavy it will fall back down into the tub before anything else.  I have never attempted a pan grow in a dub tub or shoebox (For this reason) although Iโ€™m sure it is possible. However  in my opinion it is not optimal. I feel you can achieve more constant evaporation with a low sided tray (Martha) or mono tub. The name of the game with pans seems to be high levels of FAE (which to me means low CO2 levels) and constant of Evaporation (which means high FAE and temperature). Also a thin substrate does better than a thick one in my experience. 2-21/2โ€ is what I shoot for. I have seen people succeed with thick sub bag grows And no poo (although I donโ€™t quite understand the no poo one) I see no reason to attempt to these methods other than to prove it can be done. If you have never gotten them before and are having a hard time I suggest focusing on the above mentioned parameters and using 40% poo in your substrate. Good luck




Thanks! I have an aquarium air pump for FAE but during spawning and spawn run, i don't have it on.



Yah no need for fae during incubation, pans colonize so fast, just hold moisture


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25770274 - 01/26/19 02:55 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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I'm in "good hands" :thumbsup:

Seriously tho, anybody know what I can do to get rid of Vert aside from a flame thrower?



Providing less than optimal conditions for it helps... dry things up a bit... stopping for a few months and cleaning well may help... vert is everywhere, it just goes rampid in high humidity/low FAE conditions... more air, less moisture


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25770626 - 01/26/19 06:11 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

another update my pinset has doubled and so far everything continues to grow (no aborts) ive been holding a temp of 88F and ive been pumping about .031 gallons (.13 quarts) into the tubs every hour so far my sub has help a constant desired moisture content without the need for spray bottles or syringes. my tamps tubs that ore plugged in to the set up with the pans are doing okay although i think they are about spent ive already gotten 2 full canopy's out of each snd now they are mostly just forming stones. the stone formation is pretty incredible tho i should get nice pulls. i wil keep them running until me next tubs (currently in incubation) are ready.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25770692 - 01/26/19 07:06 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

WOW Jake!
Looks like all that tweaking is coming to fruition. 88F, I never went quite that high- looks like, if anything its helping the pinning process. I always wondered about the higher limit for growing cyans.

I hope you can explain your setup to us all when its all done:cheer:.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
    #25770846 - 01/26/19 09:12 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

I was having some troubles on my last grow and cranked it up to 82F and started getting pins everywhere. I think
if you can get the conditions so that you have rapid and continual evaporation things are going to go well.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
    #25770869 - 01/26/19 09:27 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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WOW Jake!
Looks like all that tweaking is coming to fruition. 88F, I never went quite that high- looks like, if anything its helping the pinning process. I always wondered about the higher limit for growing cyans.

I hope you can explain your setup to us all when its all done:cheer:.



Yes they definitely seem to love the high temp mixed with heavy fae. I feel if u have high temp but not enough fae your gonna get problems. Anyway here is a explanation of what I have built so far


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25770892 - 01/26/19 09:49 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

Have you thought about a bucket fogger? Those little reptile foggers run through water like crazy. Myers Mushrooms
just a did a video on how to build one:



Mine is similar except I use a 3-disc fogger, a 4" duct fan and I have an aquarium heater in mine. It provides
constant FAE, humidity and the air is at room temp like you want.

Anyway, I like your tub setup A LOT. I might figure out a way to run my bucket fogger to tubs like that...because
it took me 3 damn hours to clean my FC today.

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I don't use a float valve like Myers does. If you look at the duct fan in my pic, I can just lift the fan up (it's not attached)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25770937 - 01/26/19 10:26 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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Have you thought about a bucket fogger? Those little reptile foggers run through water like crazy. Myers Mushrooms
just a did a video on how to build one:



Mine is similar except I use a 3-disc fogger, a 4" duct fan and I have an aquarium heater in mine. It provides
constant FAE, humidity and the air is at room temp like you want.

Anyway, I like your tub setup A LOT. I might figure out a way to run my bucket fogger to tubs like that...because
it took me 3 damn hours to clean my FC today.

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I don't use a float valve like Myers does. If you look at the duct fan in my pic, I can just lift the fan up (it's not attached)
and pour water in through the hole there.






yeah ive seen this I actually have a house of hydro fogger for my large gourmet FC that will be placed down inside a trash can with a float but for the tubs I think It would be too much. the reptile fogger is not to bad especially with the water jug on it the tanks last much longer (about 8-12 hours depending on how high its turned up) I do like the humidifiers with the built in filters in them better but I run distilled water thru the reptile fogger and I get no buildup


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25770971 - 01/26/19 11:03 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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I was having some troubles on my last grow and cranked it up to 82F and started getting pins everywhere. I think
if you can get the conditions so that you have rapid and continual evaporation things are going to go well.




I'm thinking about that (upping the temperature) more as well- everything just speeds up, as long as you can give them the slightest breeze of ~98% RH fresh air, "Fast air exchange".


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25771185 - 01/27/19 01:57 AM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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are you running them in dub tubs? liner helps with incubation IMO as well as prevent side pins. having them in shoe boxes does not allow the co2 to escape it will collect and sit right above your substrate. ill try to help you out but im gonna need a detailed description and pictures of your process. as for the contams. change the duct filters in your house and soak the new ones with Lysol. wipe everything down with bleach, rent a steam cleaner if u have carpet in ur grow space. if you hustle and are thorough you should be able to get back to growing in a few days. i don't believe in prayers but perhaps information will be almost as good lol they key to beating contamination is prevention obviously. don't grow attached to a sub as soon as you see any signs of contam destroy it and spray neutral air while you move it outside. i check all my subs with a magnifying glass once a day (sometimes more if im bored) and at the first little spec of green its gone. with rare species that are only a day from printing i may use salt but its gotta be a extreme situation like i have no more prints and my culture is old kinda situation. otherwise chuck it. you can easily make another one and if ur doing it right you should already have spawn either ready or almost ready. always plan for failure




Thanks. I have modified the shoe boxes with more ventilation which you might be able too see in my picture. Some have said this won't work, but the lack of air flow troubled me in previous grows. I've also included a small fan to the cupboard to encourage more air floor as the hepa fan I have is very low power. I recently changed the filter in that. I'm getting better at having continuous spawn and diversifying with cubes to keep morale up.


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    #25771578 - 01/27/19 07:48 AM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
    #25772007 - 01/27/19 11:03 AM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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I increased my incubation temperature to 81oF, where i plan to do fruiting too. It's nice to have good tuned PID temperature control...i've got no complaints.




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms] * 1
    #25773572 - 01/27/19 11:01 PM (5 years, 2 days ago)

I also got tons of pan aus prints, here's a tub update should have hoog and cint going soon


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25773792 - 01/28/19 01:43 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

Hi everybody,

I'd like to ask for some advice please. I got these two copelandia trays. They are pre colonized kits and new on the market so there's little reference. However to my noob eyes the mycelium on top seems to hold a lot of condensation droplets. Is this normal? Also I'm worried about these trays being inside so called humidity bags. Should I move both trays to a fc to provide more fae?

Sorry for the bad pics. They're in bags, in a tub


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #25774334 - 01/28/19 09:44 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

Well.. I tried putting those plates on the seed pads (with a plate and cardboard between the plates and the pads) and... they just condensated so much that there was a layer of water on top of the agar after about 36 hours.

:facepalm3:

I recently learned that I need to move March 1st too... and I live in the land of Ice and Snow this/that time of year so I'm just going to put this project on hold til then. At that point I'll likely try to use Asura's print, since that's a known vector to more of you.

I'll keep following the thread, and add questions, but I'm on hold for pans for a sec :hissyfit:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25774338 - 01/28/19 09:47 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

Anyone else having problem with Bisporus? Mine grows out on Agar but it stops well before reaching the end of the plate. In some sectors it's even more than 0.5cm. For no apparent reason.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #25774385 - 01/28/19 10:13 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

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Anyone else having problem with Bisporus? Mine grows out on Agar but it stops well before reaching the end of the plate. In some sectors it's even more than 0.5cm. For no apparent reason.



Mine was the same way on agar and grain. When I finally got the grain to colonize and spawned to poo, it ripped thru the poo. Maybe try poo tea agar? That's what I was gonna do.

How's urs look? Mine was so thin and whispy I thought it was mold.

Now I'm about 10 days into fruiting and still nothing. Any tricks?


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