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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25767109 - 01/25/19 08:16 AM (5 years, 5 days ago)

Nice Jake. Aussies? That's gonna be my next attempt once the weather warms up.. just gonna rock with bisporus and cubes for now since it's a bitch to keep my place at 80F right now.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25768596 - 01/25/19 07:51 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

Pan cyan jam.
Is this what it's supposed to look like?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushroomnate]
    #25768673 - 01/25/19 08:28 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

This is what mine looked like after a few transfer were taken


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25768675 - 01/25/19 08:28 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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Nice Jake. Aussies? That's gonna be my next attempt once the weather warms up.. just gonna rock with bisporus and cubes for now since it's a bitch to keep my place at 80F right now.



yup these are more aussies, this is not the mono from the clone but that is coming up. this i did lots of transfer on agar and its earlier transfers were my last grow so i think its still pretty good genetics. defiantly extremely potent lol. anyway here they are just 24 hours after last pic


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushroomnate]
    #25768732 - 01/25/19 08:54 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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Pan cyan jam.
Is this what it's supposed to look like?





those look really off imo. the asymmetry is sketch as f

ive only grown a few cultures but it looked more or less the this.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
    #25768741 - 01/25/19 09:02 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

Yea,I think I'm gonna go back to spore on those.The goliath I have going looks nothing like that.(if this is even pan goliath myc :lol:)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushroomnate]
    #25768746 - 01/25/19 09:05 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushroomnate]
    #25768754 - 01/25/19 09:07 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

Got my GH and digital humidity controller set up! 



Still need to add my ultrasonic humidifier and make some minor adjustments but Iโ€™m stoked.:-)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #25769120 - 01/26/19 12:50 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

Hey all. I have read through the entire thread and Im attempting my first pan grow. The consensus is that horse manure is vital for substrate, I remember reading somewhere in here though that the granular kind available through the various myco sites is not preferred.

Does that mean it should not be used at all if fresh isn't available? I bought some a while back and used it steeped/strained for my agar plates and have plenty left.  If it is because it gets too compact am I correct in that loosening it up by adding chopped straw ( so the mix is verm/straw/ composted horse manure) will rectify that issue or is it for some other reason it is not advisable?

Thanks to all who have contributed so far, this is a great thread with tons of info.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25769296 - 01/26/19 03:14 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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My two pan trop modified shoe boxes.






Lost them both to trich....it's a day of mourning. I have two more recently spawned boxes on the go and I'm praying. The spawn of these new ones looked very healthy. One cased, one not cased.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25769505 - 01/26/19 07:06 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

If I could be so bold as to ask for positive vibes and/or prayer from my collective brothers and sisters of mycology


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25769510 - 01/26/19 07:10 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

I just lost everything to vert :frown:

I feel ur pain man. Gonna have to take a break from growing mush for a while and disinfect everything in here. The only way might be to burn my house down tho :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25769530 - 01/26/19 07:20 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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I just lost everything to vert :frown:

I feel ur pain man. Gonna have to take a break from growing mush for a while and disinfect everything in here. The only way might be to burn my house down tho :lol:




Better get some insurance first :rofl:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Johnny Dont]
    #25769548 - 01/26/19 07:26 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

I'm in "good hands" :thumbsup:

Seriously tho, anybody know what I can do to get rid of Vert aside from a flame thrower?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25769821 - 01/26/19 10:29 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

I think I got my pan aus tub canopy!!! looks promising



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25769889 - 01/26/19 11:07 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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If I could be so bold as to ask for positive vibes and/or prayer from my collective brothers and sisters of mycology




Just keep at it, brother. I am trying trop myself and it seems like that myc is begging to die or something.

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I just lost everything to vert :frown:

I feel ur pain man. Gonna have to take a break from growing mush for a while and disinfect everything in here. The only way might be to burn my house down tho :lol:




I just broke down my entire grow room to clean today. It takes hours...even though the space is 4x4 :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25769897 - 01/26/19 11:16 AM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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are you running them in dub tubs? liner helps with incubation IMO as well as prevent side pins. having them in shoe boxes does not allow the co2 to escape it will collect and sit right above your substrate. ill try to help you out but im gonna need a detailed description and pictures of your process. as for the contams. change the duct filters in your house and soak the new ones with Lysol. wipe everything down with bleach, rent a steam cleaner if u have carpet in ur grow space. if you hustle and are thorough you should be able to get back to growing in a few days. i don't believe in prayers but perhaps information will be almost as good lol they key to beating contamination is prevention obviously. don't grow attached to a sub as soon as you see any signs of contam destroy it and spray neutral air while you move it outside. i check all my subs with a magnifying glass once a day (sometimes more if im bored) and at the first little spec of green its gone. with rare species that are only a day from printing i may use salt but its gotta be a extreme situation like i have no more prints and my culture is old kinda situation. otherwise chuck it. you can easily make another one and if ur doing it right you should already have spawn either ready or almost ready. always plan for failure


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25770149 - 01/26/19 01:45 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
    #25770199 - 01/26/19 02:10 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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I did a first agar transfer of the assie print and it's going ok so far.

I had a cpu fan in my fruiting chamber stop working at some point, so i didn't have good air equilibrium in my fc for awhile. Replaced the fan with a newer one (i'm not surprised it stopped working since these fans are like 15 or 20 yrs old). Added water to my vaporizer/fogger and i didn't seat the water properly and so I didn't have proper humidity for a day; fixed that.

I supposed i should preface this part with don't do what i do here.  I opened up my colonized rye berry jars (pan cyan jam) and there was some green mold on the surface. I used my patented method here and scouped out the mold with a spoon and spawned the remaining rye berries to some horse poo substrate (65% my dried horse poo, 17.5 coir, 17.5 verm) on 1/24.  It's showing signs of life now.

I think the problem comes from using micropore tape on the holes in the lid of the jars since the mold was only found on the surface (it's not from lack of PC'ing the jar). I got some synthetic filter disks for the jars now (1/4" hole and filter cut and glued with Hi Temp RTV...stuff from shroomsupply)...and i'll be doing all the operations in a SAB garnished with a little sterile technique. Hope this'll take care of the mold and give me a good chance of success.

I had some old spawn (maybe a few months old) rye berries and i added that to a ballmill horse poo substrate a few weeks ago and it hasn't shown hardly any sign of growth. I guess spawn needs to be used shortly after 100% colonization. I've heard the general practice to do things fast with pans.

Sometimes it's better to learn from failures than it is to do everything right, right away.

That's my pan update.

I'm starting from spores from my old pan cyan jam print if this pan cyan jam that i just spawned fails.

I have a whole list of future manures to try for my future grows from pan cyan assie (thanks again Asura for the print!!!).



Yeah ur problem was most definitely ur spawn, scooping contams like that will never work you canโ€™t see it but all ur spawn was compromised, not to mention if you did it in ur lab area you likely have mold spores everywhere. you will definitely need to do a thorough cleaning before you try again.  As for your fruiting chamber you still need to allow the CO2 to exit your tub. the fan will blow air in however as CO2 is heavy it will fall back down into the tub before anything else.  I have never attempted a pan grow in a dub tub or shoebox (For this reason) although Iโ€™m sure it is possible. However  in my opinion it is not optimal. I feel you can achieve more constant evaporation with a low sided tray (Martha) or mono tub. The name of the game with pans seems to be high levels of FAE (which to me means low CO2 levels) and constant of Evaporation (which means high FAE and temperature). Also a thin substrate does better than a thick one in my experience. 2-21/2โ€ is what I shoot for. I have seen people succeed with thick sub bag grows And no poo (although I donโ€™t quite understand the no poo one) I see no reason to attempt to these methods other than to prove it can be done. If you have never gotten them before and are having a hard time I suggest focusing on the above mentioned parameters and using 40% poo in your substrate. Good luck


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    #25770214 - 01/26/19 02:19 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

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