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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25731712 - 01/08/19 01:56 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

Coir is more expensive?? Idk about that... I get 3 bricks for $8.. that's enough for 3 monos.

How cheap is the straw u get? I made need to give it a shot.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25731713 - 01/08/19 01:56 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

Thanks Jake!, yes I live in a rural area where there's abundant straw and horse manure as I know folks with their own stables. That substrate would cost me nothing and since that's what both species can grow on I'm now more confident to go with hpoo 30, straw 70 and some verm for moisture.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25731744 - 01/08/19 02:06 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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Coir is more expensive?? Idk about that... I get 3 bricks for $8.. that's enough for 3 monos.

How cheap is the straw u get? I made need to give it a shot.



I get two trash cans of poo for 5 bucks from feed store and a big bale of straw is like 3 bucks


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25731818 - 01/08/19 02:45 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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Coir is more expensive?? Idk about that... I get 3 bricks for $8.. that's enough for 3 monos.



Coir is the most expensive thing I buy for mushrooms, and that's what I get it at (same cost). One brick will also work out for about 6-8 shoeboxes. If I lived in certain rural areas though... I'd have straw logs out the ass for the same cost or less.

That said, yeah, I'll still recommend everyone use coir because of ease of pasteurization and unlikely addition of contams compared to hpoo/straw.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25732148 - 01/08/19 05:45 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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mary fairchild said:
I never grew Trops- for awhile I was playing around with plating from a difficult spore syringe, then lost interest. I'm pretty sure 99 did a nice grow of Trops ~ a year ago. I think VL  and  maybe Doc grew them also. They are getting higher on my list now.



Looks like I'm off to figure this out on my own. I guess I picked the wrong random syringe... for some reason I grabbed it and thought "huh... I think this is one of the easier exotics! I'll try it out."

Shows what I know. I guess I report on my findings/failings. That plate I started isn't looking .... so hot. I'll wait and see tho.




Hey Shaper. I have trops growing in LC as we speak. Let's try it out together and trade notes. My strategy is
really just to treat them like pans. If anything is different, my guess it will be fruiting temps and/or
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq] * 1
    #25732172 - 01/08/19 05:54 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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Sure we like the cubes too but these are just somethimg else




Yup!

Learning how to grow pans is like doing an archaeological dig through this site. I would read through all of
mary fairchild's grows and anything you can find on Blue Helix.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25058971
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14512104#14512104 (good start for Blue Helix)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25732189 - 01/08/19 06:00 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

if anyone is interested in pan aus, psil tamps, or tidal wave prints I got LOTS


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25732307 - 01/08/19 06:40 PM (5 years, 21 days ago)

Hello Jake how are you!? Dude I would love a Psil Tamps prints if you have extra to part w. Been wanting to work w it and grow sclerotia for awhile. The last guy got pist at ppl cause a lot of ppl were asking for prints instead of being like hi, how are you today, basically greetings and got pist at ppl. So I don't think he's gunna send out my prints cause I didn't say hello or goodbye or something lmao. Cheers bud -TheLostBoys


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheLostBoys]
    #25732319 - 01/08/19 06:43 PM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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Hello Jake how are you!? Dude I would love a Psil Tamps prints if you have extra to part w. Been wanting to work w it and grow sclerotia for awhile. The last guy got pist at ppl cause a lot of ppl were asking for prints instead of being like hi, how are you today, basically greetings and got pist at ppl. So I don't think he's gunna send out my prints cause I didn't say hello or goodbye or something lmao. Cheers bud -TheLostBoys


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25732346 - 01/08/19 06:56 PM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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nube424 said:
Coir is more expensive?? Idk about that... I get 3 bricks for $8.. that's enough for 3 monos.

How cheap is the straw u get? I made need to give it a shot.



I get two trash cans of poo for 5 bucks from feed store and a big bale of straw is like 3 bucks



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25732772 - 01/08/19 09:32 PM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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Asura said:
Learning how to grow pans is like doing an archaeological dig through this site.



I'm learning this!
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Hey Shaper. I have trops growing in LC as we speak. Let's try it out together and trade notes. My strategy is
really just to treat them like pans. If anything is different, my guess it will be fruiting temps and/or
humidity.



Let's do it. I'm a little behind you I think, gonna check on my plate soon, but last I looked still no myc growth. I put all my notes so far in my journal entry. Feel free to offer any recommended reading you've run across :smile:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25732937 - 01/08/19 11:55 PM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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Yup!

Learning how to grow pans is like doing an archaeological dig through this site. I would read through all of
mary fairchild's grows and anything you can find on Blue Helix.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25058971
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14512104#14512104 (good start for Blue Helix)




Thank you guys! Yes I will do that for sure. I've already read a lot of her stuff This is so challenging!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #25732953 - 01/09/19 12:17 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

yay! got another pan tray to pin in the martha idk why im having such a hard time with the pans in the martha even the tamps do better in the mono tubs but now I think I got it dialed in well one of em at least the other one still isn't very effective and im not sure why.... it will grow cubes no problem but exotics don't like it
here's tray#2 and dinner:awedance:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25733315 - 01/09/19 07:54 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

We've got growth! An possibly new ms cultures started :grin:




This has got me happy since mold took out my aa+ an redboy.


If they aint potent im gonna try to get them to take root in my lawn lol.

Were u at guy? I told you id get around eventually haha.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25733359 - 01/09/19 08:16 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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Asura said:
Learning how to grow pans is like doing an archaeological dig through this site.



I'm learning this!
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Asura said:
Hey Shaper. I have trops growing in LC as we speak. Let's try it out together and trade notes. My strategy is
really just to treat them like pans. If anything is different, my guess it will be fruiting temps and/or
humidity.



Let's do it. I'm a little behind you I think, gonna check on my plate soon, but last I looked still no myc growth. I put all my notes so far in my journal entry. Feel free to offer any recommended reading you've run across :smile:



I also will be putting a trop tray into Martha in about 4 days, and I’m putting a mini trop mono together today. I tried and failed with em a few months ago as they were some of the first mushrooms to go into the Martha and it was not dialed in yet. They should run just like pans.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25733395 - 01/09/19 08:37 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

Well attempt #2 still didn't get me any fruits. This time I increased my airflow, fanned more, ran a US humidifier, and kept temps between 75-80. I didn't have as much overlay, but the myc still looked all fluffy once it did poke through. Not sure if it was a genetics problem or something that was my fault. I kept them in fruiting for about 3 weeks then tossed them so they didn't get contaminated. I think next time i'm going to try doing them the modified PF TEK method with hpoo jars. Now I just need a print... Anybody wanna hook me up with one? :grin:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: dmar]
    #25733465 - 01/09/19 09:15 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

Ok... here's my plate of Pan Trop. You can see the the "Z" like formation of the inoculation loop spreading out a MS syringe. Are these looking right? It kinda just looks like bacteria to me, but that seems like way too much bacteria for the quality of the syringe I got. (lots of sediment/bubbles in this dish pour, my apologies... still trying to learn how to pour this shit for the best results)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25733472 - 01/09/19 09:20 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

wait for the myc to grow and transfer asap. bacterial bumps usually do not grow much so you should be able to snag some clean growth.

how are you prepping your agar? i only get bubbles when i pour to hot. or mix my materials with too hot of water.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
    #25733486 - 01/09/19 09:27 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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mushboy said:how are you prepping your agar? i only get bubbles when i pour to hot. or mix my materials with too hot of water.



Still learning agar. This pour is dedicated to my new IR thermometer, and I think it got a little too thick before I poured (120f). I was literally pouring bubbles onto trays it was getting so thick. This is my first time working with grain water:
  • 500ml Grain Water
  • 9g Agar

I just bought some malt extract and should be here tonight. Going to see how that works for me for next time. Also, going to switch to less agar, like 7g and see how that goes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25733492 - 01/09/19 09:31 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

damn dude those plates are super clear for grain water. my grain water dishes come out looking like dark pee:blush:


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