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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: oldfunguy]
#25728427 - 01/07/19 02:24 AM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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Here's the thing, The way I have it set up dripping is a problem- its because the mist from the ultrasonic humidifier is concentrated in one small area before it gets dispersed by the fan. Some of the concentrated mist condenses on the fan and drips. Its not a huge problem but its a tradeoff. Certainly a system where the humidity is piped in is better in that way but this way is faster off the runway. The whole GH sits in one of those bins used for mixing concrete. That catches all the water. With a system where the humidity is piped in from the outside one could disperse the humidity better to greatly reduce any condensation.
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 I dropped accidentaly the tub these guys where in, had to harvest what was in it since the sub broke into pieces . This is myy first pan cyan alabama grow, pretty forgiving variety i would say given all the overlay i have seen around here
Congrats El! Alabamas are fun- I especially like that the genetics are almost wild type. Looks like they are growing right out of a jar?- Is it PFtek?
Thank you mary! It was a quite an improvsied grow really, since i'm still sourcing the ph measuring papers, the CaCO3 and a propper FC lol basically i just had the spawn haha. These grew in a tray inside a modified 30qt mini monotub with "extra" FAE, i spawned some colonized oats into a mix of verm, hpoo and coir, and cased with a small layer of only verm. checked the tub daily for surface conditions and misted if needed. Im very surprised fruits actually showed up . I hope in the future ill get a flush worth posting, thank you so much for the information you put out there mary! ive read a lot of your posts and it has helped me a lot, definitely saved me some headaches.
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One thing, that I learned from my own experiences- its best not to raise the temperature inside the fruiting chamber too much above the temperature in whatever room or closet? that the fruiting chamber sits in, to avoid condensation(dew) forming on all the surfaces. For the wicking-or maybe a bunch of smaller diameter nylon strings side by side to give a bigger surface area.
you're certainly right. hobby room is in the furnace room. warmer than the rest of the basement, but not warm enough to be tropical. hoping 10f temp difference is small enough with the insulation on the fruit stand, as i'm calling it.
re:wicking, you're right again, surface area is a primary consideration. i have 1/4" nylon braid which i learned wicks incredibly well. also when cut, if the ends aren't melted together, it frays into wig makers' material very easily. not sure yet how to make a legit humidifying wick out of it, tho. trials of reducing simplicity until either it works or i decide to add fogging.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: J. Jack Flash]
#25728638 - 01/07/19 08:25 AM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25728641 - 01/07/19 08:29 AM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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I have no experience fruiting pans yet but that looks good to me. No overlay or anything. I wouldn't completely stop misting tho. Just keep an eye on it and don't let it dry out.
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mary fairchild said: Thanks Subfinder, I use a Canon Elph- point and shoot; its older and maybe ~8mp. After seeing Saraloves inspiring photo's I started playing around with the lighting. I may even get a tripod.
It's funny, seeing your photos totally reminded me of saraloves totally epic photos and grows! She's kinda my inspiration for playing with my dslr and lighting to recreate some of those magazine quality shroom shots. Kinda like a hobby within a hobby! Please keep the eye candy coming! Lol
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25728644 - 01/07/19 08:30 AM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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shroomms said: Should I be misting this? Humidity is about 97%. It's day 7 in fruiting conditions of a stalled substrate with pan cyan jam. I misted right after casing it til it just about glistens and that was it for misting. I'm not optimistic on this grow but I want to get the conditions right.

I drop the rh down to about 88 to induce pinning
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25728885 - 01/07/19 11:53 AM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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The Miseducation of Shaper, Part 2:
I'm hoping to ask some more questions here because this is the only "tek" I found for Pan. Tropicalis: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/789252
So, I think I'm missing some information here, but help me see if I have the right idea for how to run this strain (assuming no other changes from a "standard" cube run, i.e. same sterile/cook/colonizing teks):
- Colonize on Agar (started)
- Transfer to Grain (oats)
- --note: Colonizing of grain will look fuzzier than cubes
- Spawn 1:1+ with Poo
- Top case with soil after colonized
- Harvest!
Am I missing anything here? Will I need to worry about this being warmer than cubes need (heating pad)? Will I need to "cold shock" anything? Do I need more humidity than a shoebox will create on it's own with misting?
Thanks for all the guidance on this topic! Looks like I picked a weird one randomly to work on.
Also, should I follow another tek that's similar? Like Pan Cyan teks? I know, I'm in over my head 
EDIT: Will this BLACK KOW MANURE work for poo needs?
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25728953 - 01/07/19 12:20 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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shroomms said: Should I be misting this? Humidity is about 97%. It's day 7 in fruiting conditions of a stalled substrate with pan cyan jam. I misted right after casing it til it just about glistens and that was it for misting. I'm not optimistic on this grow but I want to get the conditions right.

Regarding your Jamaican grow, Whats the fruiting chamber, what's the temperature- For Jams i've had best luck fruiting at 80->~84F. For misting I like the case to almost glisten or just start to glisten just before it is absorbed by the case. Every morning I take a look- usually in the corners of the tray the case may just start to dry out- but the rest still looks damp- when its like that I only mist those corners. If it all stays damp looking you may not be getting enough evaporation- so try to up the air movement but keep the humidity high. If more of the case starts to dry out- maybe too much air movement.
This is the way I approach fruiting conditions for Pan cyans in a GH- When the fruiting chamber is a greenhouse: Between casing and pinning the goal I go for is to show the cased mycelia an environment of high gas exchange, high humidity & high evaporation. To get high humidity AND high evaporation there needs to be some air movement- I go for a light breeze- when I put my hand in the GH I like to feel the slightest breeze. Up till about 12 or so hours after the first pins appear I go for ~97% humidity, then when pinning is well underway I drop humidity down to ~95% and keep it there; thats a pretty drastic change from the environment before casing. In the picture of my greenhouse is an appliance fan that bounces air off the roof of the GH lightly down on to the case; that's just the way I do it in my setup- so there are other ways to get there.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: mary fairchild]
#25729013 - 01/07/19 12:53 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms] 1
#25729232 - 01/07/19 02:38 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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some more pan aus pics steady kicking out prints
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25729284 - 01/07/19 02:56 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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Looking good! So tall & willowy.
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ShaperDreaming said: I'm hoping to ask some more questions here because this is the only "tek" I found for Pan. Tropicalis: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/789252
Damn, there are so many awesome grows buried back in time on the board. I think that's the craziest flush of trop that I have ever seen. Fruits are small, but still that's impressive.
@jake Wondering if you could get even better results by taking out the polyfill from your tub.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10785639#10785639
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25729639 - 01/07/19 05:19 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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ShaperDreaming said: I'm hoping to ask some more questions here because this is the only "tek" I found for Pan. Tropicalis: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/789252
Damn, there are so many awesome grows buried back in time on the board. I think that's the craziest flush of trop that I have ever seen. Fruits are small, but still that's impressive.
@jake Wondering if you could get even better results by taking out the polyfill from your tub.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10785639#10785639
it would dry out I already got a fan on it but ur right they do look like they need for fae, I suppose I could lessen the polyfill even more
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] 1
#25729712 - 01/07/19 05:38 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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I was just basing my comment totally on that thread. So many good nuggets of information back then for exotics.
Plus, people aren't doing wild shit any more. It's just cubes, cubes, cubes.
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25729776 - 01/07/19 06:04 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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ShaperDreaming said: I'm hoping to ask some more questions here because this is the only "tek" I found for Pan. Tropicalis: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/789252
Damn, there are so many awesome grows buried back in time on the board. I think that's the craziest flush of trop that I have ever seen. Fruits are small, but still that's impressive.
@jake Wondering if you could get even better results by taking out the polyfill from your tub.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10785639#10785639
Yeah, really, Ancient history- but beautiful. I never grew Trops- for awhile I was playing around with plating from a difficult spore syringe, then lost interest. I'm pretty sure 99 did a nice grow of Trops ~ a year ago. I think VL and maybe Doc grew them also. They are getting higher on my list now.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] 1
#25729790 - 01/07/19 06:10 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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Asura said: I was just basing my comment totally on that thread. So many good nuggets of information back then for exotics.
Plus, people aren't doing wild shit any more. It's just cubes, cubes, cubes.
I got all kinds off cool shit coming down the pipeline zap Aztec subG liberty caps ohhh im so excited! plus im gonna build a refrigerated mono and try to fruit sum of my azzy chips inside if it works ill run the other WL's thru
 also I took the poly fill out the top end hole facing the fan and took the hose out my many tub removed its poly fill and set tub in martha and gave its humidity line to the big pan tub so with 2 lines reduced low polyfill and no end fill lets she how she does
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25729809 - 01/07/19 06:14 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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sweet growchamber mary, and a perfect time to post it as I was just pondering resurrecting mine.
My pancake is only putting out fuzzy aerial mycelium. Guess its time for more air.
edit: just noticed that pan trop grow you linked cold shocked the sub in the fridge for three whole days. interesting
Edited by Psilosopherr (01/07/19 06:18 PM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blindingleaf] 1
#25730009 - 01/07/19 07:40 PM (5 years, 22 days ago) |
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blindingleaf said: steady as she goes brother
thats how I got into pans too

Been reading through the thread.
I've never given the pan cakes idea any consideration cause fuck a giant sgfc. But a mini sgfc?! Genius!
Why have I never thought of that before?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hobbyist] 1
#25730306 - 01/07/19 09:16 PM (5 years, 22 days ago) |
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Woohoo!!
Haven’t had much good news to report on the Pan front lately, but came home to some progress today.
My Aussie SB had stalled out and wouldn’t colonize the casing... So, I decided to mix a small amount of CaCO3 (which I forgot to add initially) with distilled water, put it into a spray bottle and mist the casing. It’s working!... so far. Sub still looks good, healthy myc, no contaminants so I’m hoping this is going to produce some fruit.
These are from Friday night around 9:30 pm: (Didn’t look much different last night)
 
Misted with CaCO3 water last night and came home to this:

Know it’s not much but it’s a step in the right direction. Hope to have some more updates over the next few days.:-)
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