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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25716088 - 01/01/19 11:54 AM (5 years, 29 days ago) |
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shroomms said: The design is a blend of my design and what i've read on fruiting chambers. I think i finally have something that'll work. A lot of it just came together in the last month or so. I had the tub for awhile and the heating pad and warm air mister. I recently got a new mister (ultrasonic) and that was a breakthrough for me. Then i raised the sub off the pad, added computer fans...i tried a lot of other different things, but this is what i've settled on and I think it has all the essentials. I'm hoping it'll work.
I did agar work for the first time with pans without any trouble (in hopes of a full canopy) and colonized grain with no trouble. I've had trouble from that point onward. I think i'm going to get it now though.
I think a fogger will help too. Nope, never tried tamps; maybe I will this year. I want to keep my print for now until i make some of my own prints (in case I have to start over...then I would like to trade). The greenhouses are pretty common fruiting chambers for pans.
the heating pad? have you had problems with temp before? ive found the pans dont mind getting down to the mid 60'sF although my room is about 71F. also you say you did agar work, like you secotred out a mono culture? i did that on pan hawaii sectored out from a ss a health fast growing mono culture but it wasnt a fruiter thats why i didnt both going for a mono culture this times that didn't come from a clone so I know its gonna fruit. my goal is to get a full canopy producing monoculture on each strain before I move on from it I figure I can do two pans and 2 sclerotia at a time (once I get my FC's dialed in and holding optimal enviro) looks like trop will be next but I really am excited to get on to cambo lol so much cool shit out there to feed my obsession
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25716116 - 01/01/19 12:08 PM (5 years, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25716137 - 01/01/19 12:17 PM (5 years, 29 days ago) |
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shroomms said: I thought the higher temps would speed up growth. I had it and it works good for temp control, so I've just always used it for my pan work. For agar, your plan sounds good (to go multispore an then clone). I just went the agar route b/c i didn't know how else to do it from a spore print. I transferred about 4 times. I didn't see much sectoring, but that's what others have reported too. I just chose a section of healthy growth. That's what i read to do. It's difficult to get a mono-isolated culture with agar on pan cyans.
That does bring up a question i had was: will a clone always produce a mono-culture? Because if so, that's something I would do too.
no not necessarily that's why I got a glass needle im going to try and get a pan mono via hyphal tipping
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25716148 - 01/01/19 12:20 PM (5 years, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25716296 - 01/01/19 01:17 PM (5 years, 29 days ago) |
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I think the more genetics you have the better. I will just get a clean plate and then tic-tac-toe the whole thing to LC. I know that mary has had great results going from print straight to LC (dangerous admittedly).
As for temps, I would keep them mid to high 70's. This is a tropical species.
Growing pans is a song and dance between high temps, high humidity and rapid evaporation. This can be accomplished in many different ways. A part of this, at least for me, also means watering the casing by hand with a syringe. Even with my fogger.
It's easy to fruit pans (see stonesuns "Just as easy as cubes" series), but I don't want a few fruits. I want full canopies.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25716388 - 01/01/19 01:41 PM (5 years, 29 days ago) |
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Happy New Year All!!!
Well the end of 2018 didn’t go to well. I finally gave up on the Aussies I’ve been trying to fruit and it’s a good thing I did. Dumped them out and they had overlayed on the bottom and were starting to mold. No more metal trays...
Went to spawn my Bisporus bag and when I started breaking down the spawn it was loaded with green mold...
On a positive not though, my new batch of Aussies is looking healthy but I need some advice. I started them off in a SB because I had the metal tray in my FC. Now that my FC is available, should I transfer them to a glass tray, put them in the FC to recover, then case? Or should I go ahead and case them in my SB? Here are some pics of where they’re currently at:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25716767 - 01/01/19 04:36 PM (5 years, 29 days ago) |
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Happy 2019 pan fam 
Tonight I'm casing three trays of pan. tropicalis that have colonized the bulk substrate since I spawned them five days ago.
Hawaiians have recovered well from a shake two days ago and I will spawn them to CVG+Cow manure tomorrow.
LC for Goliaths and Jams is looking good. I don't know why I bothered with grain water LC for a while last year, that shit is cloudy, can't see anything in it and takes longer to sterilize. Back to using 1g LME:500ml water and it's clear as water with fluffy white clouds of myc.
Entered the year with 750mg of aussies - beautiful trip as always. This time they broke me apart and took me to a deep pit of peaceful pure despair and loneliness (sounds horrible I know) before slowly adding the things that give me joy one by one and building me back up with a refreshed gratefulness for what gives me happiness and wellbeing. The next morning I took another 750mg and went into the forest with some friends and had a great day watching the sky fold in on itself as we planned the year ahead. Hope you all had a great start to the year as well Looking forward to seeing what 2019 brings.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: space_shrooms]
#25717610 - 01/01/19 10:09 PM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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here we go got another tub kicking em up got another mini tub just put into FC and I ditched a tub that still hadn't come thru after 10 days. still all ms atm but I got some good clones already and some more good looking specimens
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25718119 - 01/02/19 06:41 AM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms] 1
#25718128 - 01/02/19 06:57 AM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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I might be stating the obvious, but what about store bought composted manure? I've used "black kow" and "bovung" manures. I prefer bovung.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
#25718168 - 01/02/19 07:35 AM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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Somewhere on black kow, it says something like "2% of this mixture is manure" so read the fine print on products like that
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Zyiadem]
#25718198 - 01/02/19 08:04 AM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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Damn for real? I'll have to check that out.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: nube424]
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25718571 - 01/02/19 11:57 AM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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shroomms said: I decided to try the high mountain compost next. My rye berries are ready; just waiting for the compost to arrive. Can't wait.
I’m starting to see less importance in the sub and more In fc. This last tub I got coming up is 70% shredded straw 25% poo and 5% verm (iso if the straw allows for lower poo content) I got the exact same sub in my tent as my tub and I got zilch in the tent I’m gonna try stepping fae up even more but I am having a really hard time with trays lol
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25718581 - 01/02/19 11:59 AM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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Yea, monos are way easier to dial in. I don't like small trays either, or even shoeboxes for that matter. Modified tubs all the way!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
#25718617 - 01/02/19 12:15 PM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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nube424 said: Yea, monos are way easier to dial in. I don't like small trays either, or even shoeboxes for that matter. Modified tubs all the way!
Yeah just nice space wise would be cool to have a few different trays of different pans going at once, after all I’m mostly after print sets
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25718631 - 01/02/19 12:23 PM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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U could run multiple trays in a mono. I can fit 3 shoeboxes in my mono.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
#25718987 - 01/02/19 02:49 PM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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So I lost all my pans to trich because they overlayed and sat for several weeks and never did anything. Here's round 2 (I made changes). These have been in fruiting conditions since the 27th. So far they haven't overlayed which is exciting. I've been fanning them about 6-8 times per day and misting each time to keep the RH up. I also now have a US humidifier that's been running in the room 24/7. And now, I just installed a little air pump with a line going to the top of each tub. It pushes .27 GPM so each tub is getting .09 GPM... i'm thinking of getting a martha setup and using my US and air pump for the martha... what do you guys think?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: dmar]
#25719144 - 01/02/19 03:48 PM (5 years, 28 days ago) |
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I keep seeing ppl reference overlay, is that when you just get those thick myc matts growing across your casing? I had pan Hawaii to that to me and some of my trop cultures have a very solid disc like growth on ag(ill update with picture) big pain in the ass. as far as the martha goes I haven't had much luck yet im gonna run a dub tub shotgun and mono with trays see if I cant isolate my problem but yeah I love the extra challenges of pans.... keeps ya on ur toes
ok so I did a little more modding today. so I cranked up air flow in my grow room since im just about done with my last cube tub and my other tubs are pans and tamps so pretty much everything wants more air. now the tamps ive found can handle a wetter sub and casing than the pans so if you run a lil wet a no mist run is easily doable so I had modded my pan tubs onto a ultra sonic reptile fogger and I put in a condensation chamber to allow the fog to adjust temp and do its condensation in their rather than my tubs and wilt my fruit. so the pan tubs are looking good I go over to the tamps and they are dry and starting to fry! just a low speed fan changed the fae that much in the grow room that I went from having enough moisture in my sub to last thru a flush to barley making it 2 days! (and its not like I got the fan pointed at the tubs either) so the air circulation cant stop I def need the fae and the pans are loving it but I now need to mod my tamp tubs in so I came off the side of the first condensation chamber and set into a second smaller condensation chamber as a direct line coming off the first chamber would be uneven and would fill my tamp tub faster than my pans (I also need more space to attach additional lines if need be. so now I got 4 lines running off this one reptile fogger... so I disassembled my original oxygen line set up and instead I am now running the oxygen condenser into my condensation chamber off the fogger to enrich my air and provide additional pressure to run the system
first sum shots of new pan and tamp tubs pinning
 a shot of the back where the o2 condenser sits and runs into fogger system
 and here is the fog/o2 system inbetween my stacks of tubs branching off into them
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: dmar]
#25719478 - 01/02/19 05:43 PM (5 years, 27 days ago) |
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dmar said: So I lost all my pans to trich because they overlayed and sat for several weeks and never did anything. Here's round 2 (I made changes). These have been in fruiting conditions since the 27th. So far they haven't overlayed which is exciting. I've been fanning them about 6-8 times per day and misting each time to keep the RH up. I also now have a US humidifier that's been running in the room 24/7. And now, I just installed a little air pump with a line going to the top of each tub. It pushes .27 GPM so each tub is getting .09 GPM... i'm thinking of getting a martha setup and using my US and air pump for the martha... what do you guys think?

I’m working on them myself but @MaryFairchild and @Asura gave some good advice. Focus on getting the room dialed in and the temp/RH in the boxes will come naturally.
Looks like you have a ultrasonic humidifier. Try piggybacking a wicking humidifier with it. Help me get to the RH I needed. Hoping I’m able to produce some fruit this time.
Good luck!
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