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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25708898 - 12/29/18 12:04 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've heard that too, but got this print from someone who looks like they know their shit, but then again who knows, could be a lot of fooled people out there. I've thought about getting a microscope... maybe now is the time
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: space_shrooms]
#25708926 - 12/29/18 01:05 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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The difference I’m more interested in is the active compounds in the different strains of pAns all Pans contain serotonin. Neither cubensis or wood lovers contain serotonin tho! The primary effect of psilocin Occurs on the receptors for serotonin and psilocybin reduces the reuptake of serotonin by the brain allowing this neurotransmitter more time to act in the synapse. Pans from Australia, Hawaii and Thailand were examined . All 70 collections contained psilocin, serotonin and urea. The Hawaiin had relatively high psilocybin, whereas the species from Australia and Thailand had almost none
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] 1
#25708941 - 12/29/18 01:28 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jakeoncid419 said: The difference I’m more interested in is the active compounds in the different strains of pAns all Pans contain serotonin. Neither cubensis or wood lovers contain serotonin tho! The primary effect of psilocin Occurs on the receptors for serotonin and psilocybin reduces the reuptake of serotonin by the brain allowing this neurotransmitter more time to act in the synapse. Pans from Australia, Hawaii and Thailand were examined . All 70 collections contained psilocin, serotonin and urea. The Hawaiin had relatively high psilocybin, whereas the species from Australia and Thailand had almost none

Yeah, the high psilocin was one of the reasons I wanted to try Pan Australia and Pan Cambo Goliath, even though there's no confirmation of such ratios in the strains that are available publicly. Too bad all my syringes are dirty and if I even want to try them out I'll have to do a month or two of agar cleanup.
Is that the mono with O2 enrichment? How are your other monos doing? I'm gonna do plain Pan minimonos soon.
If you're interested in Pans with a differing effect, I personally think Bisporus has a significantly unique effect, more visual and with an extremely dramatic, emphatic, and abrupt flood of pure love once it kicks in fully that I didn't feel with Pan Jams.
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space_shrooms

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25708942 - 12/29/18 01:28 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybin is turned into psilocin. However, I wonder if the range in ratio and concentration of psilocin and psilocybin in different varieties has an effect on the mushroom experience. I have only grown pan. cyan. aussies (red down under variety) and have eaten them many times. I have quite a consistent experience with them. Now I am also growing Hawaiians, Jamaicans, Goliaths and Pan. Tropicalis and I'll be interested to see any differences across many trips.
Although pans contain serotonin I believe this would be broken down by MAO and not absorbed. Perhaps taking them with an an MAOI like syrian rue or ayahuasca could further alter the trip beyond the differences experienced between cubes and pans. i.e., pans+MAOI may have an additional element as serotonin is absorbed and be further different from cubes+MAOI than the variation experienced betweens pans and cubes without an MAOI.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: space_shrooms]
#25708958 - 12/29/18 02:03 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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space_shrooms said: Psilocybin is turned into psilocin. However, I wonder if the range in ratio and concentration of psilocin and psilocybin in different varieties has an effect on the mushroom experience. I have only grown pan. cyan. aussies (red down under variety) and have eaten them many times. I have quite a consistent experience with them. Now I am also growing Hawaiians, Jamaicans, Goliaths and Pan. Tropicalis and I'll be interested to see any differences across many trips.
Although pans contain serotonin I believe this would be broken down by MAO and not absorbed. Perhaps taking them with an an MAOI like syrian rue or ayahuasca could further alter the trip beyond the differences experienced between cubes and pans. i.e., pans+MAOI may have an additional element as serotonin is absorbed and be further different from cubes+MAOI than the variation experienced betweens pans and cube without an MAOI.
This is true and I agree you will notice a much larger difference with the maoi, I actually am getting Blue lotus and syrian rue To mix with pan aussie tea
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: space_shrooms] 1
#25708961 - 12/29/18 02:15 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Geinstein]
#25709259 - 12/29/18 08:28 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: What kind of manure? Seems a bit light on the verm
Hpoo What would you use? I'm straggling my ass of. . .but it was my first attempt. . .lol Still would have love some mushes tho
The trays I'm still going to keep recase them maybe later just add to a pot plant if mushroom come great if they don't nice soil for the plant
more verm. About 50/50 otherwise itll be too wet and the myc will struggle to colonize it all the way
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25709309 - 12/29/18 08:57 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms] 1
#25709391 - 12/29/18 09:38 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aussie LI I made by swabbing a healthy plate. Already used some of it but thinking about starting a few more trays.

Pan. Bisporus LC made by swabbing a print @MaryFairchild was kind enough to trade me.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb] 1
#25709410 - 12/29/18 09:46 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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G’mornin mates!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25709441 - 12/29/18 09:54 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jakeoncid419 said: G’mornin mates!

Nice!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: Subfinder]
#25709560 - 12/29/18 10:55 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25709664 - 12/29/18 11:51 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I put Bisporus spores on Agar just now! Thanks to Mycolorado. You are the man. Your prints rock!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25709679 - 12/29/18 12:02 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jakeoncid419 said: G’mornin mates!

Beauties! Are you growing like a regular mono or did you make adjustments for the species? Temp, humidity, etc.
Trying my damndest to get my first tray to fruit. The SB I started Xmas day is looking much more promising though.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25709748 - 12/29/18 12:44 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can I get thoughts on these pan. cyan dishes? The first 2 are what most of my transfers look like... And no, the discolorations around them aren't contamination, its just the photo.
 

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25709795 - 12/29/18 01:16 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jakeoncid419 said: G’mornin mates!

Beauties! Are you growing like a regular mono or did you make adjustments for the species? Temp, humidity, etc.
Trying my damndest to get my first tray to fruit. The SB I started Xmas day is looking much more promising though.
Yeah I’m actually finishing my mods now I’ll make a write up gimmie a few hours
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#25709844 - 12/29/18 01:49 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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anybody know if pans benefit from consolidation? be it a cake or bulk sub.
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#25709860 - 12/29/18 02:03 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
#25709895 - 12/29/18 02:24 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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shroomms said: i've heard it prevents overlay
Unfortunately it does not appear to. At least if it is genetically disposed to overlay. There were some particularly nasty pan jam grows over the summer where consolidation was tried. I tried it and it made no difference. Overlay hell.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25709981 - 12/29/18 03:08 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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shroomms said: i've heard it prevents overlay
Unfortunately it does not appear to. At least if it is genetically disposed to overlay. There were some particularly nasty pan jam grows over the summer where consolidation was tried. I tried it and it made no difference. Overlay hell.
Pan Jam's are what I'm using. Did you notice anything that might make overlay more likely? I saw someone did a post or journal on overlay and mycelium. Maybe it was Mary?
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