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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Nimph]
    #25703809 - 12/26/18 12:50 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Johnny Dont]
    #25703963 - 12/26/18 02:13 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Pan Cyan on rye berries.  Is this trich or bruising?



Hard to tell pan myc can bruise very easily and brightly this jar was good
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Didn’t know there was an official thread for pans also! Nice!( I really need to learn how to better navigate this site lol) I have A log on them but here’s some pics the  tub is receiving 02 enrichment. Pan cyan Australia
yalls shit in here looks fantastic btw!




Looking good!

In your other thread I saw that you had a couple of different FC. I'm interested in how the mono tub is doing. Could we get pictures and a short description of it? Thanks



Thanks man, yeah I got sum trays going in a Martha, and I got a few mono tubs those pics of pan pins in my op are a small mono I also have sum larger one however no pins quite yet🤞 The main way I alter the design of tubs for pans is I lower my broadside holes to about two and three-quarter inches to the bottom of my cut out (exaughst)  ( I prefer rectangular openings 2 inches wide 6 inches long ) Then on the front and back I have a 5 inch long 3 inch wide rectangular opening (air in)   if you want to know anything else don’t hesitate to ask bud


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25704019 - 12/26/18 02:38 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Didn’t know there was an official thread for pans also! Nice!( I really need to learn how to better navigate this site lol) I have A log on them but here’s some pics the  tub is receiving 02 enrichment. Pan cyan Australia
yalls shit in here looks fantastic btw!




Looking good!

In your other thread I saw that you had a couple of different FC. I'm interested in how the mono tub is doing. Could we get pictures and a short description of it? Thanks



Thanks man, yeah I got sum trays going in a Martha, and I got a few mono tubs those pics of pan pins in my op are a small mono I also have sum larger one however no pins quite yet🤞 The main way I alter the design of tubs for pans is I lower my broadside holes to about two and three-quarter inches to the bottom of my cut out (exaughst)  ( I prefer rectangular openings 2 inches wide 6 inches long ) Then on the front and back I have a 5 inch long 3 inch wide rectangular opening (air in)   if you want to know anything else don’t hesitate to ask bud




Good to know. So are you able to get proper FEA in a mono? Any tips on getting them to pin and fruit? Or is it just good genetics?

I have some pan cyan I'm working with now, I'm on t3 and I won't be building a Martha so I want to figure out what I need to do to get a decent harvest with monotubs


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Johnny Dont]
    #25704034 - 12/26/18 02:48 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Nice info Jake. I'm about to do bisporus in a mono after seeing this. That's kinda what I had in mind but I was just gonna go with boot boxes to start.

Wait these holes are left open or polyfilled?

Nvm I see the polyfill now. Medical herb man :stoned2:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Johnny Dont]
    #25704040 - 12/26/18 02:51 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Looking good!

In your other thread I saw that you had a couple of different FC. I'm interested in how the mono tub is doing. Could we get pictures and a short description of it? Thanks



Thanks man, yeah I got sum trays going in a Martha, and I got a few mono tubs those pics of pan pins in my op are a small mono I also have sum larger one however no pins quite yet🤞 The main way I alter the design of tubs for pans is I lower my broadside holes to about two and three-quarter inches to the bottom of my cut out (exaughst)  ( I prefer rectangular openings 2 inches wide 6 inches long ) Then on the front and back I have a 5 inch long 3 inch wide rectangular opening (air in)   if you want to know anything else don’t hesitate to ask bud




Good to know. So are you able to get proper FEA in a mono? Any tips on getting them to pin and fruit? Or is it just good genetics?

I have some pan cyan I'm working with now, I'm on t3 and I won't be building a Martha so I want to figure out what I need to do to get a decent harvest with monotubs



If you cut your holes to this design you should have sufficient FAE Happening directly above your sub,  using a traditional mono is not ideal as the substrate for pen works best at around 2 to 2 1/2 inches and you want to try and get your opening as close to the surface of your sub as possible (Sometimes they are even a little bit below but not a big deal just a little bit of liner manipulation)  The problem I see people have when they try and use cube monos for Pam grows is the CO2 builds up underneath the opening. then having the air in your grow room moving will help the mono tubs design do it’s job if you pack your poly feel looser on your openings on the ends up high then you do your broadside openings down low you will promote more airflow coming in up top and blowing the CO2 out the bottom. (You don’t want to point the fan directly at the tub or anything but you want air movement) Now for this tub here I have been using a oxygen condenser on as well but it is not necessary to get I Fruits out of A mono.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25704422 - 12/26/18 05:49 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25704851 - 12/26/18 09:31 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Nice Jake!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25704992 - 12/27/18 12:08 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Nice Jake!



Thanks man def they made me work for it lol


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25705347 - 12/27/18 07:36 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Finally got all my camera shit in so I can finally post pics of my experiments. More about learning than getting kickass results.





Grown in 90qt totes in a PMP style. 10 gallon air pump with a good, non air restrictive air diffuser. Bent hardware cloth to make a simple platform. No casing because I wanted to see how it would go. Spawn was a bit dirty, but they still gave me something worthwhile. One tray contaminated before giving me any fruits, maybe because it was in the tub that had a fishtank heater on making the air more humid than the rest, but more likely it was the dirty spawn. I had 4 more Pan trays.

Best Tray, had the least thick and patchy colonization at the top, which might explain it's relative success. This was in a PMP with no heater and lower humidity:



Contaminated tray pushing out some fruits. Got about 14g wet from this and MAYBE from the other trays, froze it in submerged water for later consumption, as I like to do 30g wet minimum and don't like drying Pans.


Pan blobs




The blobs remind me of the Penis Envy thread where PE blobs were eliminated by using a casing. The blobs seem to indicate that this does greatly benefit from a casing if conditions aren't perfect, though it isn't a hard requirement. One of the trays did somewhat okay without it. I wonder if it was more humid, the spawn was cleaner, and the top mycelium was less thick, would it have fruited better? The best fruiting tray had patchy colonization vs the thickly colonized myc of the other trays.

I typically colonize bulk in trays covered with foil, but I learned a while back that more vertical airspace while colonizing makes the mycelium look healthier and less thick/matted/overlaid. Maybe if I colonized the trays in a tote vs covered in foil, they'd do better.

I feel a bit better about my skills and my spawn looks a bit cleaner (but not perfect), so I'll be experimenting with doing mini monotubs, 20qt size. Sterilite model 1844s, as shoeboxes seemed to dry out for me and are generally too small. My dream grow style would be these as mini monos similar to Stonesun's Easy as Cubes dubtubs, as I don't like complicated chambers like SGFCs, PMPs, and mini-GHs. The humidity required for mini-GHs makes me wheezy and short breathed, since I grow in my bedroom.

26g wet grams below, fresh as can be, combined with a previously frozen 14 wet gram harvest resulted in a pretty kickass trip. Learned to puke and purge thoroughly by chugging water when the nausea became unbearable.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25705472 - 12/27/18 08:49 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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I thought pans caused less nausea than cubes?..



It's been 50/50 for me, I like panaeolus because of the size and ease of dosing. As with anything,  dosage seems to be key on the nausea situation for me. If I take big doses, I usually take some zofran to help keep the nausea neutral or to a minimum.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
    #25705478 - 12/27/18 08:54 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

What about promethazine? I have 4 leftover. I don't really get nausea tho, I get the shits sometimes. And I faint.

Still trying to fix that issue. U don't know anything about that do u? I literally feel pins and needles and really weird, then faint. On shrooms. Not even heavy doses, like 2-3.5g of cubes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25705514 - 12/27/18 09:10 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

It sounds like you are having some vasovagal responses to the mushrooms, in other words,  your blood pressure is fluctuating, most likely dropping suddenly causing you to pass out.

Are you standing when this happens or sitting then standing? it depends upon what you are doing when it happens.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
    #25705528 - 12/27/18 09:17 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

I've only actually passed out once standing up and smacked my head on cement. The other times I was sitting when I started feeling it and went to another room. Sat down and was fine after a few minutes.

But it's a very weird feeling when ur tripping and it kinda makes me hesitant to take them. And I still grow so that's frustrating that I can't enjoy them like I used to.

I went to the hospital and they said it was syncopes which is vague. It was definitely a sudden drop in blood pressure tho. But why does it happen to me? And is there anything that would regulate my blood pressure without interfering with the mushrooms?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25705530 - 12/27/18 09:18 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry this is off topic. My bad guys.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25705613 - 12/27/18 10:04 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Lemon tek with a lil lemon juice mostly  pineapple juice (pineapple is much easier on stomach) sum ginger and honey simmer 10 min steep 20 more strain. (Dbl extract if you like) My Stomach is absolutely terrible I throw up almost every morning most food makes me sick I’ve recently been placed on the FODMAP⚡ diet I’m on short-term disability for my stomach but this Tea doesn’t hurt me. If I eat Str8 Fruits though anymore it tears me up. Don’t do hard drugs friends it catches up lol


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25705865 - 12/27/18 12:16 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

I think it's interesting. When I take pans, I'm laying down...usually flopping around on the floor. They make me trip so hard I can't
even tell if I am awake sometimes. As for the nausea, I haven't thrown up, but pans make my stomach churn hard. Like when the
Enterprise comes out of warp speed and it's just sitting there above a planet....that happens to me on pans. I come out of some
crazy trip place and I am suddenly back in my house and it makes me want to hurl.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25705883 - 12/27/18 12:31 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

That's crazy.


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    #25705982 - 12/27/18 01:51 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroomms]
    #25706000 - 12/27/18 02:08 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Will pan cyan colonize and fruit out on cased rye grass seed?



As far as I know they require poo.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25706024 - 12/27/18 02:24 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Mix poo wth it rgs


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