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space_shrooms

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25670895 - 12/10/18 07:01 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pan cyans var Australia
Nice work man
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nobody83
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
#25671498 - 12/11/18 04:08 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asura said: I will go into excruciating, mind numbing detail.
 
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nube424


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nobody83]
#25671733 - 12/11/18 07:37 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey y'all, I just received a pan bisporus print from a member here and I was wondering if there's any advice on germinating these spores? I plan to make a nutrient pour agar, maybe on the soft side? I'm thinking 1g nutrients with 5g agar and 250ml water?
Any advice on this specific type is appreciated. Not sure how they differ from cyans, if at all.
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nobody83
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
#25671930 - 12/11/18 09:21 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Standard recipe works just fine. Poo tea agar works also. Mary had the recipe posted in previous pages in this thread. But note that Softer, wetter agars are better for germinating spores, but stiffer agars are easier to transfer and better for clones and isolation if that helps ya
Edited by nobody83 (12/11/18 09:26 AM)
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nobody83]
#25671961 - 12/11/18 09:43 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yup, Everyone has their twists on the standard recipe- they all work. Pans work on the same recipes as cubes. Here's a simple recipe that will work, 1.6% LME, 1.6% agar:
Per 250ml: 4g. light malt extract, 4g. agar. Its a bit softer than the standard, but stiff enough to transfer agar wedges.
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About time I got in on this thread. I've got a couple Indian take-away containers nocc'ed up last night (Pan. cyan Hawaii). I'll continue my lurking here in plain sight now 
-------------------- enough knowledge to get into trouble. Not nearly enough to get out again.
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nube424


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Spindlymass]
#25672285 - 12/11/18 12:13 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm actually gonna make fish food agar at 1.6%. I've seen great results with dog and cat food. Gonna try it out since I have a bunch.
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25672303 - 12/11/18 12:25 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asura said:
 
Pan cyans var Australia
Beautiful Asura!
I cased mine day before yesterday. Checked them this morning and I’m seeing new growth! How long did it take yours to fruit after casing?

Thanks,
BB
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25672607 - 12/11/18 03:06 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's weird how fucked such a small mushroom can get you. Just saying
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nube424


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
#25672716 - 12/11/18 03:58 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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How's the trip going?
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Asura
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
#25672871 - 12/11/18 05:02 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pans are STRONG!
@Brain I usually get pins after 5-6 days
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nobody83
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25672976 - 12/11/18 05:51 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have my buddy a hole 3.5 Gs dried...now he won't leave me alone. For them
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] 1
#25673041 - 12/11/18 06:24 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Norfolk243 said: what is you setup asura? how are you achieving the correct climate?
I am working on a huge write up that I will post after the holidays. It's meant to be a "I never wanted to learn this much about pans" type post. I will go into excruciating, mind numbing detail.
Stay tuned!
I'm looking forward to this write up asura!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Zero Nowhere]
#25673197 - 12/11/18 07:52 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spawned my Jamaicans to Hpoo and CVG from Rye berries a couple days ago, and the colonization is surprisingly fast. Going to case with peat, verm, and calcium carbonate once I hit 100% colonization. Should I keep the lid latched completely while waiting on colonization or unlatch it to allow a little FAE? It's been latched so far.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Zero Nowhere]
#25673283 - 12/11/18 08:40 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Guy on a buffalo
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We got a spammer on the premises
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Its All Energy
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
#25673372 - 12/11/18 09:36 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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nube424 said: Hey y'all, I just received a pan bisporus print from a member here and I was wondering if there's any advice on germinating these spores? I plan to make a nutrient pour agar, maybe on the soft side? I'm thinking 1g nutrients with 5g agar and 250ml water?
Any advice on this specific type is appreciated. Not sure how they differ from cyans, if at all.
Agar is a good choice and is how I did mine. I've only grown out one tray of Bisporus but have 9 months worth of moderately successful Pan Cyan growing experience, so I'm still learning myself:
I think they differ the most out of all Paneolus strains and species. Every other Panaeolus has thick, cottony mycelium that can overlay, but Bisporus mycelium is very light and sparse but ravenous and can colonize a casing layer completely without overlaying. It almost looks like cobweb mold or some other contamination. Pins take about a week longer than Pan Cyans to appear, but do so all over a fully colonized casing. Colonized casing looked the same as the colonized coir, manure, and verm substrate, which makes me think it can fruit well without a casing, which I will definitely experiment with when my spawn is ready.
Bisporus is the only Panaeolus I've been able to get 4-5 flushes out of, but that might be due to dirty Pan Cyan spawn/sub and my shitty skills/technique. Still, I'm sure not having an uncolonized casing layer like with Pan Cyans helped. It was just very resistant to contamination and produced well despite me putting it through different experimental conditions and growing methods/chambers. I found it to be more potent and visual than Pan Cyans. It also gave me the worst nausea of my life and I was unable to puke, but looking back, I think that was because I overlooked being properly hydrated and didn't drink enough water and flush out my system properly before dosing.
If I can get Bisporus to fruit well without a casing and can trip without enduring immense pain, and can puke by being properly hydrated, it will be my favorite Panaeolus due to it's growth characteristics and potency. I might even drop my other Panaeolus species/strains, but that's a bold statement I won't commit to yet.
For reference, my current grow chamber is a modified PMP. 72-77F temp from space heater. 10 gallon air pump with a good air tube with good, slightly annoying bubbling. A quieter bubble wand seemed to be too restrictive for bubbles and might have limited proper air exchange. Simple bent wire mesh to keep trays elevated above water. I have some backup aquariun heaters to experiment with upping humidity if i think it's getting too low. I use aluminum lasagna trays since high walls around the substrate seem to block horizontal air flow.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
#25673462 - 12/11/18 10:52 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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What'd I say? Is it about my ever hated PMPs? Just sharing my experience, bro. Bisporus to me legit has significantly different mycelium.
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