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Humble Newcomer
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Humble Newcomer
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6.7g wet above.
0.47g dried. I LOLed
One day I'll have enough!
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Alpineswift
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Humble Newcomer said: I don't know enough to have an opinion either way, I think thats neat though, I've never seen spore prints go red....
...but I've seen my stuff go all green!!!

I think that's the worst green I've ever seen lol, I removed the plastic grocery bag that was covering it and I about jumped back lol
I may have pulled one or two fkr overlay instead of trich actually, but they have trich now, lol... never give up people!

Good luck to yall, have a great day everyone
I had to sanatize my entire work area over again after seeing this, Thanks !
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Alpineswift]
#25239372 - 05/30/18 10:18 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Man buddy I've never seen trich like that before, came in with the spawn the entire subs were Crayola jungle green throughout SMH from the looks of it there probably was a visual clue of trich in the jars that I missed
Oops
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Humble Newcomer
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At first glance it seems they love the microclimate a tall wall around their substrate provides.
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mushboy
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Humble Newcomer said: At first glance it seems they love the microclimate a tall wall around their substrate provides.

omg im hoping to baby jesus i can replicate that with my cakes..

should i case?? im thinking i should...
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
#25240415 - 05/31/18 11:52 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushboy
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25240422 - 05/31/18 11:56 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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thats an agar wedge dude.. on brf and dirt
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
#25240439 - 05/31/18 12:02 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I hope so too buddy.
I would say yes. As thin as possible and keep it as moist as possible until pins.
I have a humidity controller in my GH so I set it to come on at 85% and shut off at 92% or so. That seemed to work great to evaporate the casing often and yet keep my shiitake blocks down below ok and not dry out or shrink the pan subs in their trays.
I ended up misting them twice a day basically and I'm still doing it now, I cup my hand over the area of tray with pins and mist the casing everywhere else.
I think the approach is sound but it's labor intensive. Bending down to get the zipper of my GH to open it and mist twice a day is new to me, but I wanted best chances I could muster.
I'm actually taking a page out of your book mushboy and trying some shoeboxes with them next.
I notice, even now, on all my trays I'm only getting heavy pins as side pins. One tray has a tiny cluster in the center of the casing but it's nothing. 90% of harvest so far and what's growing now is side pins or in the cup.
And the cup did really well, there's more coming out behind the ones I picked. But the cup itself is like a larger microclimate that you would get from my shitty tray situation, the aluminum is all bent up and I'm just not that experienced with them yet either so theres side microclimates everywhere.
So Im kinda confused on what to do. Im thinking if I can get a shoeboxe or mono to have proper surface conditions and not side pin, which will bea minor hurdle for me, then it could sit for longer and provide a proper flush out the top. And it would hold it's moisture better.

Hope that helps you and everyone
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Humble Newcomer
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Although now I think of Mary Fairchild and so if I can get my surface conditions proper I could out them in a GH without a humidity swing and let them sit for longer and perhaps they would fruit correctly too
Without having to mist twice a day like a slave. Who's cultivating who?
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mushboy
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ccoool mang. i got a gh in bound from lord bezos going to use it for the rest of my spawns.
i also got pan shoeboxes to pin but they were horribly contaminated.

managed to clone that one.



its now sitting in a few cases of quart jars
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
#25240595 - 05/31/18 01:35 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're gonna get it, I know you will.
Is your contam coming in with your spawn, seems like I saw your last attempt tam out too.
I lost half my trays, which u saw above, and I guess I missed a jar that had major trich in it. Probably should have noticed.
After pasteurizing in steam bath for three hours I took the quart jars of sub into my SAB and my broken up jars of spawn and did the whole thing as if I had sterilized it.
Just bc I have rampant bacterial issues at my house. I guess I'm a filthy bastard, but I never get sick. I tell my work I do, but I don't.
And the trays of mine that tammed out we're all my 100% coir trays which I spawned in the middle of my SAB session, not beginning or end, plus one tray of another type.
So that tells me my SAB technique was fine, I mainly rock a dry SAB now unless I had to open it, so the work I did first was good, it's not that. Sometimes I get back aches and rush the last transfers or whatever, no it wasn't that bc the trays I spawned last were clean. So I knew it was spawn and took it outside and flopped it out in tbe ground and sure enough thick jungle green all throughout.
I'm glad I did a lot of trays bc it allowed me to succeed even with so many failures (dirty spawn, horriblly deformed aluminum trays, dumbest casing recipe ever with perlite, etc)
Find where the contam is coming from and maybe make a few more boxes or trays at a time to up your success, I lost six 
Here's a pic of the bacteria I always encounter these are the pan clone from the pictures earlier

At bottom left there's growth In a clean spot I'll be able to cut away looks like, but this is very common i took a few months off when I first started bc I just couldn't do better than a 90%contam rate.
I'm gross I guess
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mushboy
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Humble Newcomer said: Is your contam coming in with your spawn, seems like I saw your last attempt tam out too.
a lot of things but yah bad spawn. ive only tried pans twice. both limited runs.. that pin i cloned was from the 2nd attempt a few months back.
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
#25240608 - 05/31/18 01:41 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think if you scale up proper you'll be successful like I was, at least half surviving. And then the balls rolling.
Insert Winston Churchill gif here Never give up, never surrender
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space_shrooms

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HN those are some nice fruits and heavy spores 
Mushboy what kind of gh setup are you talking?
I'm rooting for you guys.
My monotub has started pinning but I think my casing layer may be a bit too thin in some places. I ran out and just made do, but the thinnest parts aren't pinning as well - no surprise I guess. Also I don't know if a monotub is great for pans. I'm quickly realising they need shit loads of FAE to fatten up and not be too tall and skinny, which my monotub setup is not giving them. I'm thinking about trying a monotub-SGFC hybrid for the next grow.
My trays are killing it - going into third and fourth flushes, they just don't stop and the fruits are getting bigger. I took note of Blue Helix's tip to heavily soak the sub between flushes and I think doing that is doing wonders for them. Nonetheless I also don't think they're getting as much FAE as they would like - something I'll work on improving next time too.
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mullugh
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: space_shrooms]
#25240962 - 05/31/18 04:35 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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So after pan trop agar fail, I inoculated multiple cakes with 10 year old print/syringe earlier in the week Ann's although no signs yet on cakes, one of the honey LC's is showing some lovely clean mycelium growth. I am very stoked.
Edited by mullugh (05/31/18 04:36 PM)
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space_shrooms

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh] 1
#25241007 - 05/31/18 04:59 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pantastic
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Sagescruffy
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Humble Newcomer said: At first glance it seems they love the microclimate a tall wall around their substrate provides.

Nice!
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: space_shrooms]
#25241806 - 05/31/18 10:53 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks Sage. I couldn't see inside the cup without opening the GH so it was a nice surprise
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aicaca said:
I also don't think they're getting as much FAE as they would like - something I'll work on improving next time too.
Have you considered modifying your mono?
I assume u have a hole on each side stuffed with polyfill maybe two on each side?
You could remove half the polyfill and fluff it up to make it looser.
Or remove it altogether and put micropore tape over holes. I would double layer the tape it's not great for our hobby but I keep it around for modification potential.
Or use an unmodified tub that's what I do. Wedge the lid open a little, or pivot the kid at a 45 or 90 or remove it entirely once or twice a day for a short period while u do something and mist and replace.
Tons of options.
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aceofspades8809
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Just got my sandos strain off the ground can't wait to join the club!!!
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