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GoldMold
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
#25235709 - 05/29/18 09:21 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Man all these pans look so beautiful. I'm gonna have to try to do something with these bad boys.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#25235766 - 05/29/18 09:55 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Peteyboy said: I love those squatty little Cambos!
were they more potent?
Peteyboy- regarding potency of the cambos- I tried em and couldn't tell because I lost all awareness- passed out or fell asleep- woke up hours later. I ended up missing almost the whole trip. Thats been happening to me lately on low and high doses of cubes as well as Pans. Regardless, i'll be taking a long hiatus from tripping to reset.
Mary-That sounds pretty potent lol...if you don't mind me asking whats your average dose of Pans and cubes?
It's funny you say that though, I've done alot of MDMA in my past and whenever I do it now i experience almost exactly what you describe...even though I don't do it often at all I still get that sleepy spacey feeling...
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Peteyboy]
#25235776 - 05/29/18 10:00 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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mullugh said: Never seen spore prints go red from these before. That's fucking awesome
is anyone else concerned that aren't pans? Or is it just me?
What else could they be? The dude who grew then can be the only one who would be able to test this...I'm not even sure what tests you could do...
Literally anything lol. There's no test available. But I'd like to see a scope pic of the spores in question
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25235782 - 05/29/18 10:03 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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mullugh said: Never seen spore prints go red from these before. That's fucking awesome
is anyone else concerned that aren't pans? Or is it just me?
What else could they be? The dude who grew then can be the only one who would be able to test this...I'm not even sure what tests you could do...
Literally anything lol. There's no test available. But I'd like to see a scope pic of the spores in question
Did they bruise blue when cut?
Did anyone consume them yet?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Peteyboy]
#25235792 - 05/29/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will never get how people can "pass out/fall asleep" after taking shrooms. Even during my deepest shroomy meditation I was fully aware and memory was working.
Some people are apparently experiencing some weird shit!
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mullugh
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Humble Newcomer said: It'll pass buddy, chin up
Thanks man, I appreciate you taking the time to say that.
I'm usually upbeat but I stupidly did coke Saturday night and I think I'm paying for it now. Part of the reason I got back into growing was to get something productive from substances rather than self destruction.
Anyway, back to topic, I'dlike to know if these red spore boys give the same trips as normals. Plus can this be passed on for endless generation's now. Exciting stuff.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh] 1
#25236227 - 05/29/18 02:02 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Man I used to dance with the white lady all the time, lol I literally rememebr telling people that crack has a bad reputation and its gonna make a comeback.
I don't dose enough, in fact I'm jealous of Mary a bit bc I'm always restless after a trip, not like LSD wired but very much mind still whirring. I finish working late and im like "no it's 8pm ill be up all night" or "I've got too much to do tomorrow". So lately it's like two months between trips.
But it's crazy u say this bc I've been having dreams about it again and the daydreams and that's when the urges start hardcore for me. It seems like when I was making myself drink magic tea more often I didn't daydream about smoking rock. I always thought it was stupid to call thc or psilocybin medicine, but if I laugh for 5 hours straight and gain insight on my current quandaries, it seems my stresses are less and I yearn for escape less.
What is medicine? What is the effect of hard laughter for hours and all the release of all your muscles and what not? 
I've done so many stupid things in my life but cocaine is the one thing in my life I will truly regret j think. She won't stop showing up asking me to dance. Sometimes I wonder about being so open on here bc so many people don't share shit, but maybe someone can learn from my mistakes.
Back on point Mary, Just a noob, VL everyone with nice pan flushes, do y'all run clones? (Pan cyan)
I had read before that cloning wasnt very important with pan cyans, do y'all run MS or have y'all in fact cloned to get repeated nice pinsets?
I've also read pans don't "flush" like cubes so it'll be continuous here and there but y'all's pictures make it seem like that's untrue.
Any advice? I have one growing that is double the size and diameter of the others but it's growing by itself in a mostly empty tray and it may not have good yield or pinset qualities....
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Humble Newcomer said: Man I used to dance with the white lady all the time, lol I literally rememebr telling people that crack has a bad reputation and its gonna make a comeback.
I don't dose enough, in fact I'm jealous of Mary a bit bc I'm always restless after a trip, not like LSD wired but very much mind still whirring. I finish working late and im like "no it's 8pm ill be up all night" or "I've got too much to do tomorrow". So lately it's like two months between trips.
But it's crazy u say this bc I've been having dreams about it again and the daydreams and that's when the urges start hardcore for me. It seems like when I was making myself drink magic tea more often I didn't daydream about smoking rock. I always thought it was stupid to call thc or psilocybin medicine, but if I laugh for 5 hours straight and gain insight on my current quandaries, it seems my stresses are less and I yearn for escape less.
What is medicine? What is the effect of hard laughter for hours and all the release of all your muscles and what not? 
I've done so many stupid things in my life but cocaine is the one thing in my life I will truly regret j think. She won't stop showing up asking me to dance. Sometimes I wonder about being so open on here bc so many people don't share shit, but maybe someone can learn from my mistakes.
Back on point Mary, Just a noob, VL everyone with nice pan flushes, do y'all run clones? (Pan cyan)
I had read before that cloning wasnt very important with pan cyans, do y'all run MS or have y'all in fact cloned to get repeated nice pinsets?
I've also read pans don't "flush" like cubes so it'll be continuous here and there but y'all's pictures make it seem like that's untrue.
Any advice? I have one growing that is double the size and diameter of the others but it's growing by itself in a mostly empty tray and it may not have good yield or pinset qualities....
Awesome of you to share that. I love to drink but unfortunately it does bring in the temptation to sniff. 100% agree about psilocybin being a medicine and modern science is starting to recognise it, so not such a far out concept.
What I really really want is some pan trop medicine from my ancient print ...got all my cakes inoculated and more playing the mould waiting game. Just dripped some of the spore solution into four Petri dishes too, just to do a two pronged attack...If this fails I'm going cap in hand for prints, but I hope that wont be required. Got loads of cubes on the go, but there is a special allure that draws me to the tropicalis....
Down with coke, up with pans
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
#25236438 - 05/29/18 03:35 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heck yeah man, my name on the growery is PotandPans and I like that, not everyone will get it but it's very me.
Make sure to put any myc you get to grow out on agar for saving. Like a grow plate or temp slant or something and that takes all my anxiety out of it. I fully expected failure on these cyans so I made sure to keep a "master" from tbe beginning, and I'll eventually replace it with a proven performer.
Good luck bro!
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Ps to the previous post. I sometimes trip on a school night and if I drink it as tea it doesn't last as long, then a diazepam at bedtime and I'm okay for work the next day (but I tend to be in a bit more out a hippy headspace at work, which is okay for one day a week).
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
#25236611 - 05/29/18 04:54 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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mullugh said: I've been inspired to rehydrate my ten year old tropicalis prints just now and made 4 syringes from a whole single print. Tried it on agar and it didn't work so hoping the hydration will help and I might inject to pf cakes as some have suggested here. Will be gutted if this doesn't work as I really want to grow ethos variety....wish me luck.
What are you using for agar? MEA, pda, dung? Panaeolus thrive on an agar made with dung. Goat, horse, chicken, cow manure makes a huge difference.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
#25236628 - 05/29/18 05:00 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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mullugh said: I've been inspired to rehydrate my ten year old tropicalis prints just now and made 4 syringes from a whole single print. Tried it on agar and it didn't work so hoping the hydration will help and I might inject to pf cakes as some have suggested here. Will be gutted if this doesn't work as I really want to grow ethos variety....wish me luck.
What are you using for agar? MEA, pda, dung? Panaeolus thrive on an agar made with dung. Goat, horse, chicken, cow manure makes a huge difference.
Mea I had no idea you could do dung agar until you said that....
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
#25236631 - 05/29/18 05:01 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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However that is kind of secondary to the pf cakes I made with re hydrated spores as I was told on good authority that this gets decent results with old spores
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25236689 - 05/29/18 05:18 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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mullugh said: Never seen spore prints go red from these before. That's fucking awesome
is anyone else concerned that aren't pans? Or is it just me?
Surely they are pans! Haven't ate more than a few nibbles while harvesting but they taste right and turn blue. Stonesun has a nice grow somewhere with the same beautiful red prints. And I also have got one black spore print now. They aren't dropping many though and it's quite hard to get them as the caps are so small and don't flatten out. I think I need to improve the environment for them to get better and more prints - more FAE I think. Need to strike the balance between tall and lanky and small and stocky and then I think flatter caps will probably follow.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids] 1
#25236690 - 05/29/18 05:18 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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mullugh said: Never seen spore prints go red from these before. That's fucking awesome
is anyone else concerned that aren't pans? Or is it just me?
What else could they be? The dude who grew then can be the only one who would be able to test this...I'm not even sure what tests you could do...
Literally anything lol. There's no test available. But I'd like to see a scope pic of the spores in question
Have you not heard of Red Down Under? They are definitely Panaeolus.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Germs]
#25236779 - 05/29/18 05:56 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree- They're Pans- a red-spore mutant would be so cool!
Some -not completely flat caps- can drop spores, happens all the time. Look for blackening on the understory caps- more important than flat caps.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25236894 - 05/29/18 06:56 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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mullugh said: Never seen spore prints go red from these before. That's fucking awesome
is anyone else concerned that aren't pans? Or is it just me?
They're totally pans. Blue Helix has a great post where talks about why he thinks the caps go red. If my memory serves he was able to pull some red prints as well.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#25237346 - 05/29/18 11:03 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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definitely an underwhelming flush I'm having. But there's one on the far left that's bigger than the others, and it's in a cluster, so that's both traits I'm after
Though it's immediately apparent to me there is difference in size and pinset qualities of fruits so I'm thinking back to the things I've read that say there's no benefit in cloning and, at first glance, that sure seems like a silly thing to say.
But as I peeled the liner back to carefully pull the fruit I was surprised to see side pin city and got really stoked about the genetics.

I found it difficult to get a clean clone on this first attempt of mine, I could manage to split the stem in the center but when I went to pull it apart the tear didn't continue down the middle it quickly cut off a small peel of outer skin.
I made use of the size of my 100mm plates and put five samples a plate on 2 plates. I just need a tiny bit of clean...
I had the same difficulty with the cap. Even went and got tweezers and flamed them but not much help.
Next time will be putting my soldering stand in there lol so I can clamp the fruit and have both hands for tools and if that's still clumsy I'll just wipe the fruit and drop it on the plate whole. Surely that can work pretty well...
Only 1 tray out of 11 seems to be promising genetics but I'll take it!
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Why are side pins a sign of good genetics? All that tells me is you need to improve your surface conditions
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25237822 - 05/30/18 08:45 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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They're not
The cluster was much bigger than expected and I don't see much for side pins on the others, maybe I will when the liners peels back
So it's the biggest fruit out of all the trays and it happens to be in one of my only a clusters on all 11 trays and their varying surface conditions, poor or not.
And when I peeled it back i was pleasantly surprised to see more pins, that indicate to me this strain most likely yields more than the other strains that haven't fruited prolificly in the center or on the sides.
It's just double assurance to me I'm after the best of what's available.
PS level surface isn't hard for Me, but without compressing substrate I have trouble with it not pulling away from the sides.
I use the bags mainly bc these are aluminum trays and I've had cubes eat aluminum fast.
Do y'all put more substrate on the sides and compress it down a little?
Edited by Humble Newcomer (05/30/18 08:51 AM)
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