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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
    #22445446 - 10/28/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Forgive me as I am very new, but which tek should I be using? Is that what my spawn should consist of or my substrate?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Evergreen888]
    #22445456 - 10/28/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

your spawn should be grain based like grais or cakes, for the substrate just get the said mix to field capacity and pasturize it and fruit in trays keeping your depth under 2 inches


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
    #22445536 - 10/28/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Also, the manure needs to be properly dried and aged before bringing to field capacity.

I'm pretty sure using any cow poo you find and not letting it dry out first, will lead to trich issues very soon.

I've found some sellers on ebay that have their cow poo dried already and also mixed in with some straw. All the hard work is done. All I gotta do is hydrate, squeeze to field capacity, load my jars up, and pasteurize! Ebay ftw!! :awesomenod:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22445542 - 10/28/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

field aged it wouldnt matter if it was wet or dry, fresh should be leeched


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Evergreen888]
    #22446390 - 10/28/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe check out Macmerdins "pan cake" tek.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: spacechildo]
    #22446481 - 10/28/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, took me awhile to get on isolated properly on agar.




how the *** do you see sectoring on pans? :lol:
I just transfer what looks like the healthiest mold in all the fuzz and it usually ends up being pan myc :tongue2:




:lol:
I can feel tht
But panaeolus is rhizo just on a finer scale.
you have to have a good eye, I suppose.

to the novice it all looks the same, but once you've worked with it a few times you know what to look for.

I'll post up a log, or something of the sort in a few days to better explain what I mean.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22446500 - 10/28/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I get what you mean man. Its not like all pan myc is the same.

swiped from spores, see all the different myc?



what I'd consider isolated/organised.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mad Season]
    #22446538 - 10/28/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

must be my eyes then (which do infact suck) I can see some sectoring of course but I could never be able to say "yeah thats an isolate".

maybe it gets easier to see once you just done 10 transfers from same culture, somewhat like cubes?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mad Season]
    #22446868 - 10/28/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Pretty much

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Mad Season said:
I get what you mean man. Its not like all pan myc is the same.

swiped from spores, see all the different myc?



what I'd consider isolated/organised.



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Mad Season said:
I get what you mean man. Its not like all pan myc is the same.

swiped from spores, see all the different myc?



what I'd consider isolated/organised.




Picture perfect. :thumbup:

Thanks, mad


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mad Season]
    #22447232 - 10/28/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You have a monkey on your agar  :rofl:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22447326 - 10/28/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Pretty much

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Mad Season said:
I get what you mean man. Its not like all pan myc is the same.

swiped from spores, see all the different myc?



what I'd consider isolated/organised.



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Mad Season said:
I get what you mean man. Its not like all pan myc is the same.

swiped from spores, see all the different myc?



what I'd consider isolated/organised.




Picture perfect. :thumbup:

Thanks, mad





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I think ill cook up 250ml of PDA, and 250ml of MEA, and 250ml of GW agar, and see which one the pan cyan colonizes on. I am doing literally everything right, theres no reason it shouldn't be colonizing. and 4 different syringes with different spores plus a print cannot ALL have bad spores. something is going on and I need to find out what.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22447338 - 10/28/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Damn did I seriously double quote madseason? :lol:

Goodluck, TIMER
I'm hoping they pull through for you.
You deserve it, you've been so determined/persistent


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
    #22447469 - 10/29/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've got some Pan Goliath as well as some Pan Florida coming in the mail, very excited about both. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to find manure very easily in my city at least this time of year so I'm going to just do some agar work for a while. I wish there were more grows happening, I love to look at the pictures of the cyan they are gorgeous.

Anyone have experience with the Florida variant of the Pan Cyan?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: the_r3dz]
    #22447477 - 10/29/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i just cased some of them


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
    #22447656 - 10/29/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Would love to see some pictures when they fruit.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: the_r3dz]
    #22449333 - 10/29/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Is mexicana as hard to tell apart from contams as pans are? I have this mexicana jar I swore was contaminated but now its got tons of little stones forming. "mycelium" looks freakin gray

I figure the species are similar enough this can be considered on topic :wink:

say...is there any reason I shouldn't put 100% horse manure into petri jars for pans? I don't want to use grass seed and I'm quite sick of all my weird problems with agar lately. (right when I thought I had agar figured out too :lol:)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22449346 - 10/29/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah mexicana is wispy ass grey shit. But ime it still has rizmorphs. Pretty epic ones too sometimes :smile:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22449382 - 10/29/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Is mexicana as hard to tell apart from contams as pans are? I have this mexicana jar I swore was contaminated but now its got tons of little stones forming. "mycelium" looks freakin gray

I figure the species are similar enough this can be considered on topic :wink:

say...is there any reason I shouldn't put 100% horse manure into petri jars for pans? I don't want to use grass seed and I'm quite sick of all my weird problems with agar lately. (right when I thought I had agar figured out too :lol:)




Just because it is producing stones doesn't mean it isn't contaminated.
Sometimes it'll produce regardless, suppose it depends on the severity of the contamination.

I wouldnt use straight manure.
Pan mycelia isnt as brute/tough as cube mycelia, it cant push through thick subs easily. It'll waste all of it's energy trying and just stall out on you.
Fluff it up with something like verm or straw at 50/50. One more thing, dont add more than 1 1/2 cup of sub per quart.
Itll make shaking easier.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22449412 - 10/29/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
Is mexicana as hard to tell apart from contams as pans are? I have this mexicana jar I swore was contaminated but now its got tons of little stones forming. "mycelium" looks freakin gray

I figure the species are similar enough this can be considered on topic :wink:

say...is there any reason I shouldn't put 100% horse manure into petri jars for pans? I don't want to use grass seed and I'm quite sick of all my weird problems with agar lately. (right when I thought I had agar figured out too :lol:)




Just because it is producing stones doesn't mean it isn't contaminated.
Sometimes it'll produce regardless, suppose it depends on the severity of the contamination.




I was curious about this in particular. Seeing as how contams can promote early pinning, and there seem to be scads of stones perhaps they are being encouraged. Stones are for surviving hard times after all.

Thanks for the manure tips! Perhaps perlite would be even better than verm. Got plenty of perlite around that was too fine for use in SGFC's.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22449470 - 10/29/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

will this manure work for pans?



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