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Re: Pans on Agar Picture thread [Re: Psilosopherr] 1
#25104854 - 03/31/18 03:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: he was just sayin what at least I've been thinkin, likely many of us
It's weird how the people who think that are the same people who... oh nvm.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#25104891 - 03/31/18 03:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Brothers need help on this one. When it comes to manure+grain spawn. Do you shake @ 30% in regards to copelandia's? This will be spawned to shoeboxes.
was also thinking, when it comes to bottle grows mcmerdin style. Its beneficial not to disturb the network?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: pacmanbreed] 1
#25104902 - 03/31/18 03:38 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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They can handle a gentle shake, keep in mind the next time you inoculate that they are fairly quick to colonize and for this i love liquid inoculants 360 degree inoculations, avoids the need to shake. Macs style is more set n forget as he includes bulk in his media so breaking it up is not easy so he adds more inoculation points
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bacillus]
#25105056 - 03/31/18 04:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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cronicr said: They can handle a gentle shake, keep in mind the next time you inoculate that they are fairly quick to colonize and for this i love liquid inoculants 360 degree inoculations, avoids the need to shake. Macs style is more set n forget as he includes bulk in his media so breaking it up is not easy so he adds more inoculation points
Thank you brother cron for the quick pointers. Have shaken them now. I feel my poo spawn is less than field capacity due to slow growth. But i love how its easily shaken. I can see the benefits of li/lc for this.
Will need to practice more when it comes to lc. I guess its time to score some oster for this purpose. 
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Solipsis said: Curing your own shit is begging to be misunderstood if you have visitors

Who said anything about own? Then again, it might be indistinguishable. 
we cure our on poo to feed the soil.
I have found joy and a good purpose inlife by practicing this. .
Edited by pacmanbreed (03/31/18 05:05 PM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
#25105093 - 03/31/18 05:14 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi, Trying really hard to get some wild copelandia to fruit. I've got a couple of cow poo based trays and a couple of straight straw based trays (see earlier posts for pictures). I've cased with pasteurised 50/50+ at about 1/4" thick.
I'm fruiting these in a mini arch shaped tent I made (plastic is loose around bottom, loose flap for door, 6500k lights) , with humidification provided by a 5" computer fan blowing into a semi enclosed bucket with ultrasonic inside and piped into the FC. It is controlled by a humidity control device set at 92% RH (comes on at 90%).
My understanding is that the casing layer is what is meant to provide saturation humidity at the surface of the substrate. As per RR's advice, I put some scrunched up grease proof paper flattened out on top of the casing to keep dropplets off and maintain humidity. I'm pretty sure the FAE is reasonable (its a big fan drawing fresh air and the whole thing is near a breezy window, I also fan occasionally). I took the paper off the casing today and there was lots of condensation on the underside. I'm not sure how much evaporation is happening from the casing given what i have just described. Is the humidity too high. Maybe I need even more FAE.
BTW Ive researched and researched and read and read and just when I think I understand something, more information throws things into doubt again.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Numina]
#25105119 - 03/31/18 05:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Condensation on the surface is good but yourfc should not be raining, as long as your humidifier is not soaking your sub you should be fine but i would remove the wax paper
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
#25105176 - 03/31/18 05:54 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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@Numina Keep that casing moist. Dial in your green house where you have enough FAE and humidity to keep the casing moist. If you have to mist it your humidity might not be high enough. I have a fan in my Green house that goes on every 2 hours for 3 minutes. If you get fruits clone the best one and grow it out. Good luck and post your results.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Woolyelephant] 4
#25105182 - 03/31/18 05:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Second flush picked last night. Soaked the top and let it float for an hour. Back into fruiting. These were spawned with WBS and are out performing rye grains by miles

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Woolyelephant]
#25105198 - 03/31/18 06:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sick! GTK on the WBS; you should run that on a side by side with rye.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mycolorado] 1
#25105223 - 03/31/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have been currently and WBS is doing better. To be more scientific I'm going to run this clone again and MS with rye and WBS to see if there's a significant difference in fruiting ability.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Woolyelephant]
#25105242 - 03/31/18 06:39 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice! I’m gonna have to try out some wbs.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
#25105245 - 03/31/18 06:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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glad i inoculated 8 quarts of wbs with pan cambo lc
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
#25105270 - 03/31/18 06:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
#25105377 - 03/31/18 07:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said: Nice! I’m gonna have to try out some wbs.
I would like to see a side by side of them with matching preped grain weight and sub weight. I feel like wbs is better because of higher density of grain per cm^3
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
#25105378 - 03/31/18 07:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Panaeolus Cyanescens clone LC.


Wish me luck. 
whats goin on with the orange caps?
They are 14 gauge needles, and come with orange caps from 'monoject' company.
I am going to use straight red milo as grain spawn for some of my next pan projects. Betting straight millet would be good as well. I was reading that they like smaller grains due to preferring a substrate that's not as full of water as Cubensis prefer. Bigger grains hold more water.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13222522#13222522
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#25105492 - 03/31/18 08:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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milo + millet for the win. Its what ive been using lately even for cubes.
Thanks for that link ham. Profesorpinhead comment is Logically usefull. Bookmarking for my future grows.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: pacmanbreed]
#25105898 - 04/01/18 01:11 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks very much for the input, much appreciated. Here are some pics of what I’ve got. I removed the wax paper, the humidity comes in at floor level with no condensation on walls of FC. There is very little water on the floor of the FC. If I open the lourve windows all the way the wind flaps the plastic around quite a bit and the humidity drops quite quickly so I adjust it so there is plastic movement but the humidifier only comes on every 10 mins or so when it drops below 90%. Daytime temps are around 280C, nighttime down to 230C (roughly). Obviously easier to keep the humidity up at night with greater FAE.
Just an FYI, one of the pictures shows my home made psychrometer, two cheap themometers, a plastic water reservoir, an old video card fan and a shoelace wick. Works really well using a wet/dry android app on my phone. Good check for the electronic humidity switch. Also pics of the humidity generator and a cased tray (3 days since casing, placed in FC after 24 hours under the foil). Thanks again. Hope it works, will keep you posted.




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#25105984 - 04/01/18 03:50 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: I am going to use straight red milo as grain spawn for some of my next pan projects. Betting straight millet would be good as well. I was reading that they like smaller grains due to preferring a substrate that's not as full of water as Cubensis prefer. Bigger grains hold more water.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13222522#13222522
My Pan. cyan. is doing very well on straight yellow millet, which I used for the first time and probably fucked up a bit.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bacillus]
#25106395 - 04/01/18 10:39 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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heaven help anybody who has any form of criticism for any facet of this website. He will not stand for it
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
#25106404 - 04/01/18 10:42 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not when the criticism is stupid
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