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AlexSmitt
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bacillus]
#25059755 - 03/13/18 05:08 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good point Lemur, I plan to put 2 more transfers to just as many grain jars as the previous ones (2 each). Fingers crossed I do/did a good job.
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RomeoPapa
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AlexSmitt]
#25059759 - 03/13/18 05:15 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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When I attempted pan cambos they were always super fast on agar compared to cubes. I just could never get the damn things to fruit. So I shelved em after a few failed attempts. They are more for the advanced cultivator imo.
Do growers that have knack for growing shrooms have a brown thumb or white thumb or purple thumb or what? Lol
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25059770 - 03/13/18 05:26 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Try casing with a hydrated verm layer to get a clean culture from pins, i have a few primordia on mine ima take a page of TMH playbook an get back to yall on that.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: LemurLemur] 4
#25059844 - 03/13/18 06:19 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pan bispora
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Mycolorado
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: V.L]
#25059882 - 03/13/18 06:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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hamloaf
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Doc9151 said: If you weren't misting at all, I would say that's the problem.
Don't they say pans hate being misted?
I've been wondering if a tote or a SGFC or something would be better than my GH because I read so much they hate being misted.
I need to go read Mary fair child's threads does she have a GH or use tubs
Pans prefer a bit of a dryer microclimate as opposed to cubes. You want to stop misting with pans as soon as pins arrive or they will abort faster than you can insert a clever anecdote here.
Reason pans are finikier with bacteria is due to them being fruited in open air. Pan gills/spores are exposed to environmental conditions longer than cubes due to pans not having a universal veil.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#25060141 - 03/13/18 09:15 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Reason pans are finikier with bacteria is due to them being fruited in open air. Pan gills/spores are exposed to environmental conditions longer than cubes due to pans not having a universal veil.
that just means the spores are inherently dirtier but it doesnt mean the myc is more vulnerable does it?
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hamloaf
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy] 1
#25060227 - 03/13/18 10:13 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Panaeolus Mycelium on Agar.
Pan Trop, Pan Sandose, & Pan Bisporus.

Panaeolus Cyanescens Australian clone I've been working on.
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AlexSmitt
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#25060242 - 03/13/18 10:22 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ham, I've noticed you take square transfers, I do triangles. There's no difference right? Silly question but I'm just curious.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AlexSmitt]
#25060368 - 03/13/18 11:41 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not big difference I think, Just minimum mouvement is safer so to take one piece triangle is good (just 3 cut) but to take more sample it's better to cut like chessboard and have some square.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: RomeoPapa] 1
#25060380 - 03/13/18 11:46 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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RomeoPapa said:
Do growers that have knack for growing shrooms have a brown thumb or white thumb or purple thumb or what? Lol
Blue thumb.
I have a Pan Cyan hawaiin that seems double the speed of a pan cyan Mekong.
But I also have a pink oyster that is sometimes particular on my pda (appearing fdead, days to achieve a day if growth) but annihilates wbs.
Always the chance of agar recipe or strains preference of sub being a concern I would think.
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Pan cyan on some HP agar
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Humble Newcomer said:
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Doc9151 said: If you weren't misting at all, I would say that's the problem.
Don't they say pans hate being misted?
I've been wondering if a tote or a SGFC or something would be better than my GH because I read so much they hate being misted.
I need to go read Mary fair child's threads does she have a GH or use tubs
Yeah that's my bad, I forgot what threads I was responding to, I was thinking cubes
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Doc9151]
#25062084 - 03/14/18 06:29 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh, sounded like you were saying it was too dry in response to adas. Either way, Pans require very high rh in order to develop correctly.
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AlexSmitt
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
#25062108 - 03/14/18 07:04 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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The 2 pan cyan I mentioned earlier. Aus. and Haw.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AlexSmitt]
#25062207 - 03/14/18 07:53 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is dried poo totally necessary for pans?
I’ve been using a cow manure compost (Black Kow) for my cube grows, was curious if that would be sufficient enough or not.
Hoping to fuck around with some pans in the next few months
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mycolorado] 2
#25062290 - 03/14/18 09:00 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said: Oh, sounded like you were saying it was too dry in response to adas. Either way, Pans require very high rh in order to develop correctly.
Yes, what I've seen as well. Pans, being so much smaller than cubes have a higher surface area to volume ratio- so they are more sensitive to drying out in low humidity conditions.
Regarding their sensitivity to getting wet, I purposely wet some and observed-visible water drops on Pans can cause them to rot- if its a small enough drop of water you may just get a black spot of rot where the drop landed. If you accidentally spray them- you can fan them with a tote lid until the drop evaporates and they will be ok. Longer periods of drying is bad.
Also the very tiny drops of water that are emitted by an ultrasonic humidifier don't seem to harm Pans- as long as you cant see water drops. I'd be afraid to direct the mist from an ultrasonic directly on to them.
If the surface of the case starts to look dry- you can wet it with a syringe and needle. Surprisingly the very tiny primordia don't seem to be harmed by this wetting.
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hamloaf
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#25062356 - 03/14/18 09:40 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, what I've seen that as well. Pans, being so much smaller than cubes have a higher surface area to volume ratio- so they are more sensitive to drying out in low humidity conditions
That's a good way of putting it.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#25062364 - 03/14/18 09:43 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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my pan spawn was shit. so i threw out a bunch of fuckin mold. but i still have a few left. might even have pins. HOPEFULLY i can grow 1 fucking mushroom. thats all i need. and my pp5 containers are coming along so ..all is not lost.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushboy]
#25062414 - 03/14/18 10:09 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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brf/coco/oat substrate.

i can see a few side knots so thats something! heres the surface
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