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Fantastic Mr. Fox
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22388239 - 10/16/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Grey
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They were a Shroomery sponsor a few months back that's where I saw about the pan cinct and trop.
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Grey said: Pan. Subbalteatus (cinctulus) can produce pseudo sclerotia. Pan. Tropicalis has too, I believe.
Grey do you still have the pic of those subb stones I sent ya? It's in one of our convos can't find it I think I deleted it oops 
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Fantastic Mr. Fox said: Do you have any cited information by chance? (not trying to be a dick, just curious)
I've observed sclerotia in some outdoor subb patches before. Just never got around to playing with them yet.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: saralove]
#22390616 - 10/16/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I'm gonna need you to start playing with them!! 
If y'all find those pics, don't forget to share.
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MacMerdin
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Fantastic Mr. Fox said: Well I'm gonna need you to start playing with them!! 
If y'all find those pics, don't forget to share.
I don't understand.
Do you not believe this is cinctulus psuedo-sclerotia?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Grey]
#22391000 - 10/16/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh no, I believe.
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Grey said: They were a Shroomery sponsor a few months back that's where I saw about the pan cinct and trop.
Just seeing this, Thats pretty cool.
Why aren't they a sponsor anymore?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: saralove]
#22391493 - 10/17/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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saralove said:
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Grey said: Pan. Subbalteatus (cinctulus) can produce pseudo sclerotia. Pan. Tropicalis has too, I believe.
Grey do you still have the pic of those subb stones I sent ya? It's in one of our convos can't find it I think I deleted it oops
Yeah, I found that message, but the pic is deleted. They were big too. I forgot about that.
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MacMerdin
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Fantastic Mr. Fox said: Oh no, I believe.
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Grey said: They were a Shroomery sponsor a few months back that's where I saw about the pan cinct and trop.
Just seeing this, Thats pretty cool.
Why aren't they a sponsor anymore?
Now I understand. I should have clicked the link first. Lol.
Yeah.....please find more info on that. Blue pearls would be cool to cultivate.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
#22391929 - 10/17/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's nucking futs
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They probably didn't/couldn't pay the sponsor fee.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Grey]
#22391964 - 10/17/15 06:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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so the stones are active after all!
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MudaFuka
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: oontribe]
#22392001 - 10/17/15 06:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had pan cyans that produced pseudo sclerotia more than fruits.
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gt40
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MudaFuka]
#22392534 - 10/17/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This spring was the time when I grow pan cyans for a first time. Keep in mind recomendations about 0.5g dry for middle effect and 1g for strong I and my friend get 0.5 per person. It was very cool and really comparable with 3g of cubes. After that I was sure that 1g will give me all I need. A few months later we ate 1g per person and suddenly get pretty week trip. Then repeat it a few times and get same results. I thought that somehow violated the rules of storage, storing them in a jar in the light and at room temperature. Few days ago we took 2g per person and trip was very cool and intense! although I had not expected from this harvest.
So, what should I think about this experience? I have dense experince with 0.5g then weired week results with 1g and finally cool with 2g. where is at least some correlation? I know that it depends on different things, but every time I was not alone, and all participants had similar experiences. Also want to know you dosage for strong pan cyan experience.
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Psilosopherr
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gt40]
#22392588 - 10/17/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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gt40 said: This spring was the time when I grow pan cyans for a first time. Keep in mind recomendations about 0.5g dry for middle effect and 1g for strong I and my friend get 0.5 per person. It was very cool and really comparable with 3g of cubes. After that I was sure that 1g will give me all I need. A few months later we ate 1g per person and suddenly get pretty week trip. Then repeat it a few times and get same results. I thought that somehow violated the rules of storage, storing them in a jar in the light and at room temperature. Few days ago we took 2g per person and trip was very cool and intense! although I had not expected from this harvest.
So, what should I think about this experience? I have dense experince with 0.5g then weired week results with 1g and finally cool with 2g. where is at least some correlation? I know that it depends on different things, but every time I was not alone, and all participants had similar experiences. Also want to know you dosage for strong pan cyan experience.
surely you know that potency is random when you grow with spores?
Edited by Psilosopherr (10/17/15 10:13 AM)
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gt40
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22392620 - 10/17/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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within one harvest too?)
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Psilosopherr
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gt40]
#22392635 - 10/17/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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gt40 said: within one harvest too?)
yup. I mean, I think every two spores that pair up forms a unique set of genetics. You have how many spores combining in a MS inoculation? Lots and lots of combinations per jar, maybe even per square centimeter.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22392726 - 10/17/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought pans were relatively consistent in potency with MS. The general consensus is that 1 gram is a high dose (roughly equal to 3.5 grams of cubes) and will put you on your ass! 
That's why I haven't heard/seen anyone bother with trying to isolate on agar..
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22392735 - 10/17/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: I thought pans were relatively consistent in potency with MS. The general consensus is that 1 gram is a high dose (roughly equal to 3.5 grams of cubes) and will put you on your ass! 
That's why I haven't heard/seen anyone bother with trying to isolate on agar.. 
how strange. Perhaps the shit is so potent (and apparently superior to cubes) that people don't feel they need to isolate.
even if thats the case I'd still isolate for consistency. With doses that small especially
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22392775 - 10/17/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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rbalzer said:
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Psilosoulful said: I thought pans were relatively consistent in potency with MS. The general consensus is that 1 gram is a high dose (roughly equal to 3.5 grams of cubes) and will put you on your ass! 
That's why I haven't heard/seen anyone bother with trying to isolate on agar.. 
how strange. Perhaps the shit is so potent (and apparently superior to cubes) that people don't feel they need to isolate.
even if thats the case I'd still isolate for consistency. With doses that small especially
I definitely will, I have some pan cyan spores sitting on two agar plates, waitin on some clean growth.
I'll probably take a small clean wedge from the first plate and put it on a new one, and take another wedge from the other plate and throw it on some oats!!
I wanna get some healthy spawn jars ASAP. And since pans are soo potent, I'm confident I'll have strong ones on my first grow.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22392787 - 10/17/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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rbalzer said:
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gt40 said: This spring was the time when I grow pan cyans for a first time. Keep in mind recomendations about 0.5g dry for middle effect and 1g for strong I and my friend get 0.5 per person. It was very cool and really comparable with 3g of cubes. After that I was sure that 1g will give me all I need. A few months later we ate 1g per person and suddenly get pretty week trip. Then repeat it a few times and get same results. I thought that somehow violated the rules of storage, storing them in a jar in the light and at room temperature. Few days ago we took 2g per person and trip was very cool and intense! although I had not expected from this harvest.
So, what should I think about this experience? I have dense experince with 0.5g then weired week results with 1g and finally cool with 2g. where is at least some correlation? I know that it depends on different things, but every time I was not alone, and all participants had similar experiences. Also want to know you dosage for strong pan cyan experience.
surely you know that potency is random when you grow with spores?
Pan cyan is much more potent fresh. How were they stored? Tbh 2g dry is weak sounding, but pretty normal with improper storage.
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