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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24641691 - 09/18/17 06:06 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, your substrate (if properly hydrated) will have enough water to carry them through the first flush.  You are correct that pans do enjoy a somewhat of a more arid environment than cubes, but not too terrible much like oysters or anything.  You shouldnt have to open lid fruit them.  Pans also explode in the 80-85F temperature range.  Once pins arrive do not mist, or the lil guys will abort.

 


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
    #24641727 - 09/18/17 06:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, I still have some LC that I might use for some Pan-Cakes and need to pull my master slant and continue work with my cambo.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24643941 - 09/19/17 02:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Guys, what do you think of this monotube? I introduced the spawned grain on 9-13 so the picture at the left is 9 days.


Is it time to apply the Casing? I’m getting anxious because I must leave town in 14 days and will be gone for 7.

The pic. at the right was spawned on 9-13 so it’s only been 6 days. I know It needs to go further before casing. It’s in a cake pan with foil over it and then placed in a monotube.

This is Panaeolus cyanescens Hawaiian spawned on wheat berries and then into a Bovine Dung based substrate. This is as far as I have gotten with a grow, the first two attempts went bad after it was introduced to the substrate.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24644071 - 09/19/17 02:41 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

OK so on the 1st pic, when I zoomed in, I saw something along the bottom side, right in the middle. In that kind of thin spot in the middle of the big patch. It looked like a pin, what is it??


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24644083 - 09/19/17 02:45 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Guys, what do you think of this monotube? I introduced the spawned grain on 9-13 so the picture at the left is 9 days.


Is it time to apply the Casing? I’m getting anxious because I must leave town in 14 days and will be gone for 7.

The pic. at the right was spawned on 9-13 so it’s only been 6 days. I know It needs to go further before casing. It’s in a cake pan with foil over it and then placed in a monotube.

This is Panaeolus cyanescens Hawaiian spawned on wheat berries and then into a Bovine Dung based substrate. This is as far as I have gotten with a grow, the first two attempts went bad after it was introduced to the substrate.




13 days it a bit long
I've had a lot of problem with myconge ore white mold .. Try this
Spray a small area with a spray bottle and the mycelium should look like it almost melts if not good chance its white mold
Also it looks very dry but if you spay it now it will really harm The mycelium, try to just get the walls wet and the lid

My subs have all colinized in 7 days so something is off with yours


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 99.99]
    #24644200 - 09/19/17 03:23 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I started a tub on 9/13 and it was fully surface colonized about 5 days in, cased it this morning with 50/50. Got it dubtubbed and beefed up the lighting for fruiting. Excited to see how this goes


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Germs]
    #24644229 - 09/19/17 03:33 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I hope it goes well for you!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24644251 - 09/19/17 03:42 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks mate. If all goes well I'm gonna try pan cambo further down the line, will remember to try your agar casing tip to get pins


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Germs]
    #24644288 - 09/19/17 03:53 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I think I may start casing plates as soon as I get something half way clean, well as far as MS goes. I think It will encourage them to pin a bit sooner, and then I can snag a fast fruiting culture to finish up the cleaning.

At some point I still intend to try casing and fruiting pans on a thick, no pour agar plate, mainly for fun, and possibly some education. I also still intend on adding/making cakes with some malt extract, just to see if it would benefit at all.


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    #24644662 - 09/19/17 06:35 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 99.99]
    #24644712 - 09/19/17 06:52 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys, I need to bring some Jiffy Mix up to field capacity, pasteurize it  and case after it cools. I'll open up the vents and turn the light on this Bad Boy.

I'll look closely for any pins while wearing a surgical mask.

Back to work.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24644847 - 09/19/17 07:40 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Gems, Good Luck. Do yo have a picture of your sub. that is fully colonized?

The Betty Crocker is fired up; I'll be casing tonight.

The one that is farthest along is after 9 days, the other 6.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24648337 - 09/21/17 07:31 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

What's y'alls experience with how long after casing until you see pins with pan cyan typically?

Sorry if that doesnt make sense had a nice wake n bake today


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Germs]
    #24648344 - 09/21/17 07:36 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

For me it was inbetween 5 days probably ( if i remember correctly, Im some what baked too) :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #24651894 - 09/22/17 02:33 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

My Pan Cyan Hawaiian were cased on 9-20...just 2 days and no pins but it is colonizing through the casing.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24651976 - 09/22/17 03:24 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Hey fellow Panaeolus fans,

Im just about to make another attempt at making pan cyan spawn on rye grain.

I'll be innoculating from agar, multispore. Would you recommend against doing grain to grain from a master jar to generate more spawn, or should I just inoculate as many jars as I need from agar wedges?

I hope my question makes sense.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MycoRunner]
    #24651983 - 09/22/17 03:28 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

wedges are the way to go. hamloaf insists that panaeolus doesn't like to rejoin substrains


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24652043 - 09/22/17 03:59 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

And yet I've never seen any issues breaking up spawn to bulk...agar or lc:shrug: and the link to the info provided was from a dude like ten years ago with 22 posts...


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
    #24652071 - 09/22/17 04:15 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I literally thought about that right after I hit submit


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24652095 - 09/22/17 04:26 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

alright, I'll probably do agar wedges just because I only need a few pints of spawn anyway. Less steps = less potential for contams.

I have mycelium on agar now that is about a month old, and a tad dried out, would that still be good to use, after transferring to a new plate and growing out a bit?

Thanks for the help, I'll be sure to post my progress


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