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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24489784 - 07/17/17 04:22 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Whoops.  This Thailand variety is Cambodginiensis.  My bad.  Cambodginiensis, and Cyansecens are different species of Panaeolus.  Both Cyansecens and Cambodginiensis are 4 spored.  Sometimes Cambodginiensis is 2 spored.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
    #24489814 - 07/17/17 04:36 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for the knowledge :thumbup:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24490242 - 07/17/17 08:13 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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How long does it take for a monotub of Copelandia to colonize?





with a 1:2 spawn/sub ratio it will take around 7 days. i would hold off on preparing your casing layer until you really need it just because freshly made is always better. and some growers like to give the substrate a consolidation period after full colonization to prevent casing overlay and promote a more vigorous fruiting but there are others who consider this unnecessary. this is a personal decision so be aware of the options and do what you think is best.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Panarchist]
    #24490633 - 07/18/17 12:03 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I gave myself casing overlay, makes me a sad cultivator. O well very 1st time attempting to fruit a Pan.

Hey on another note, those of you who have fruited and collected spores from a pan, would it be better to try to print them, or should I swab them to collect spores? Which way gives better results for a viable end product to give to others.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24491883 - 07/18/17 02:51 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

my guess is print, wait for someone with experience though, save swabs for the tough ones


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24492793 - 07/18/17 09:09 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Can I do Grain to Grain... Wheat Berries to Rye Berries?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24492799 - 07/18/17 09:12 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see why not, other than pan myc not liking to rejoin strains


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24492819 - 07/18/17 09:20 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Can I do Grain to Grain... Wheat Berries to Rye Berries?



Yes, different types of seed can be transferred into one another once one seed type is fully colonized.  For Pans, though, unless you have a known culture that readily rejoins strains, and substrains dispayed on agar, then I would recommend that you stick with liquids for the expansion of Pan mycelium.  If you do decide to take the route of g2ging with Pans, I would only shake once, and that would be to evacuate the grains from the jar.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24492828 - 07/18/17 09:25 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I think I have a clean strain that seams to rejoin in the quart jars and bags of wheat berries. They are from the 4th transfer on agar.

They just seam to be slow to colonize on the Wheat Berries, that is 3 to 4 weeks.

They are eating up the Bovine dung, starting to pop through the top layer in 24 hours.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24492840 - 07/18/17 09:30 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I'm asking because I will have one extra Qt. after I spawn two more tubs.

I do have a few dishes in the fridge that I can make LC from.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24492842 - 07/18/17 09:35 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

if you already have spawned sub then I would do it, you have nothing to lose right?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24492845 - 07/18/17 09:35 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Once i get my First Flush I would like to clone the best looking Pan Shroom.

This is new to me.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24492861 - 07/18/17 09:43 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

That's my thought...nothing to lose.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24492862 - 07/18/17 09:44 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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if you already have spawned sub then I would do it, you have nothing to lose right?



Why, you have a whole quart of healty spawn to loose.  Not to mention how ever many receiving jars who's strains, and subatrains don't rejoin are lost, as well as, the time, energy, and materials spent preparing the receiving jars.  Furthermore, a living origanism looses it's life.

Speed, cloning is the way to go.  :thumbup:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
    #24492942 - 07/18/17 10:20 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I have an extra tub laying around, and this strain in a few petri dishs on ice.

Space under lighting is my limiting factor.

How important is lighting?

I have two 2 tube 24" light fixtures that I can separate and make one more shelf of grow space.

I need to think on this.

I will also be out of town for the better part of two weeks mid August... Bonneville Speed Week; I'm a crew member on a couple Land Speed Record vehicle.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24492958 - 07/18/17 10:26 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

it doesn't need to be direct. in the same room will be fine. even in a shadow I wouldn't worry. I don't think pans are that light sensitive


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
    #24493014 - 07/18/17 11:03 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I need to look at the time line.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Speed Racer]
    #24493444 - 07/19/17 04:43 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Artificial lighting is beneficial, but not a deal breaker.  Low levels of ambient light will work.  If you are able to provide artificial light, with Pans, since they are subtropical, and the days in that part of the world are longer, go for a 18 on, and 6 off light cycle.  Pans are fast.  The only stage of growth I'd feel comfortable leaving Pans for 2 weeks would be for the colonization of grains.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
    #24493467 - 07/19/17 05:03 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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-  Panaeolus Cyanescens Cambodginiensis Thailand spore syringe, check.





Nice!  Pan cyan cambo thailand? Isn't it just pan cambo - Thailand?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushpunx]
    #24493478 - 07/19/17 05:07 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I must have typed out Cyanescens, and Cambodginiensis together on accident.  :shrug:
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Whoops.  This Thailand variety is Cambodginiensis.  My bad.  Cambodginiensis, and Cyansecens are different species of Panaeolus.  Both Cyansecens and Cambodginiensis are 4 spored.  Sometimes Cambodginiensis is 2 spored.




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