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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Organic_Magic]
    #24354338 - 05/27/17 03:08 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

good luck with your project, Organic Magic.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Panarchist]
    #24354352 - 05/27/17 03:14 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I have a few Pan cultures that are very nice looking. Will do 1 or 2 more transfers to be on the safe side. So once I am satisfied with my agar plates I simply put them to grains, in a jar, like cubes right? Then simply spawn to a mono or tray ideally containing horse or cow poo? Will they need more FAE than cubes?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Panarchist]
    #24354441 - 05/27/17 03:55 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

yes, yes, and yes. sounds like you're on the right track.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 99.99]
    #24355493 - 05/28/17 01:00 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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definitely, i'll get back to you in the morning.




Well i was going to flip that sub over but i noticed 2 little pins starting so ill let it be



The other thing ive noticed is greenish and blueish spots in the mycelium that only appear before fruiting starts / the green isnt trich i noticed it on my last sub i fruited two



This is the first tub i did and you can notice almost center of the photo is a weird green looking mycelium  that turned out to be a nice little cluster









So just an update...before i changed anything i noticed all 4 containers are now pinning wich i cant Believe with all of the overlay that's happened ,  I did however raise the temperature up to 84° which I think made a difference Mary told me that when she tried to get them to pin below 80° all they did was overlay

Next time  i'm going to let them consolidate for two weeks that seems to work the best


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 99.99]
    #24355636 - 05/28/17 03:21 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Panaeolus Cyanescens "Tampa".
On agar.
T1.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
    #24356124 - 05/28/17 10:00 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

:facepalm3:

So ham I started bisporus, cambo, and cyan all on agar at the same time. My bisporus looked like that so I tossed it cause the cambo and cyan had nice white mycelium with much better growth, so I assumed the bisprus was mold. At least I have the cambo and cyan looking really good with almost no contamination on the 2nd transfer. Slight satellite bacteria, I think I did those shortly after the wife came swinging the fucking door open for some dumb shit that didn't even matter.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24356142 - 05/28/17 10:13 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys, just wondering which teks and/ or reading material would be a good starting point for pans? Just ordered a pan Hawaiian syringe (Glad you posted on the other fourm ham, totally forgot about that sale going on) and I'm interested in starting to research pans. Just asking to see what material is current and advisable to use stating into these beautiful little guys.  Thank you!  Hope everyone is having a great weekend :thumbsup:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
    #24356500 - 05/28/17 01:36 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

i think the best place to start is the Mushroom Grow Logs and Pictures subforum:

Mushroom Grow Logs and Pictures 

if you use the search function at the bottom of the page and search on the word 'panaeolus' it will bring up a bunch of results which will show the complete process of how a particular grow is accomplished. since the growth parameters for each pan species are pretty much the same any panaeolus growlog will offer relevant information. threads that are less than 5 years old will offer the most up-to-date methods. threads older than 5 years are still relevant but keep in mind that as the process evolves things that seemed like a good idea at one point may not still be. currently, it seems that the most popular teks for growing pans are trays in a SGFC or Martha, monotubs, shoeboxes and manure cakes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Panarchist]
    #24356517 - 05/28/17 01:46 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I searched and found one pretty comprehensive list of teks and grow alongs. Just didn't know if i was missing anything.  Didn't see anything in the amu or trusted cult teks for pans.  Its s shame there's not more info on these little guys.  I had a good friend that use to grow them and they are amazing little mushrooms.  Thank you for the advise :rockon: really looking forward to trying these out sometime soon


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Shineonyoucrazy]
    #24356523 - 05/28/17 01:52 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

SO what are people opinions on poo vs no poo in a grow? I have heard that they can be done with only CVG like cubes and that yield just isn't as good, what are opinions on this?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24357086 - 05/28/17 06:03 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Not sure if it's the yield or potency


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24357141 - 05/28/17 06:24 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

i've only seen 2 or 3 grows that didn't use manure and they weren't as nice as other grows i've seen which did. if anyone can point one out that contradicts this observation i would love to see it.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Panarchist]
    #24357249 - 05/28/17 07:04 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I forget who it was but one of the old timers had some amazing results with cased grain. But I haven't seen a reproduction even close to his.

Manure isn't hard to aquire or prep, I would just use it personally. But if you feel like experimenting or don't mind if you get a subpar yield then go for it.

Prepping agar right now. Going to try and get bisporus to cooperate along with cinctulus. Maybe pan cyan HI as well.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: d0urd3n]
    #24357292 - 05/28/17 07:18 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

@ MadHatter..that bisporus was probably fine. ahh well, give it another shot

it is weird looking myc, but so far bisporus has been the hardiest pan i have grown..although tropicalis is up there too


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: funkymonk22]
    #24357799 - 05/28/17 11:26 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Made my first transfers from bisporus spore plates. Will post pictures when shit gets significant.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Organic_Magic]
    #24358774 - 05/29/17 11:28 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

:hehehe:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: funkymonk22]
    #24359828 - 05/29/17 07:11 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Panaeolus Cyanescens Australian.
On agar.
From mushpunx.
Night before slash, and transfer.



A couple Panaeolus Cyanescens Australia.
Running through whole oats.
Inoculated with colonized agar wedge.
In quart jars.



LC.
Inoculated with a MS agar culture.



Panaeolus Cyanescens "Tampa".
In a 5 quart bag of whole oats.
Inoculated with a full plate.
Of well colonized live culture on agar.



I don't want to shake any of these.
Since they are all wedge, and transfer inoculated.
There may be no alternative, though.
I want to begin noccing all grain substrates for Panaeolus with LC.
Instead of colonized agar wedge.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hamloaf]
    #24359935 - 05/29/17 07:38 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Lookin sharp Ham!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushpunx]
    #24359953 - 05/29/17 07:41 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: leschampignons]
    #24360979 - 05/30/17 07:31 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Pan Cyan "Australia" (left) and PS. Galindoi clone (right)




So far so good! The Galindoi is getting fruited


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