Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Boomr Bag   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: < First | < Back | 1569 | 1570 | 1571 | 1572 | 1573 | 1574 | 1575 | 1576 | 1577 | 1578 | 1579 | 1580 | 1581 | 1582 | 1583 | 1584 | 1585 | 1586 | 1587 | 1588 | 1589 | Next > | Last >
InvisibleReverendMyc

Registered: 03/29/19
Posts: 1,494
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bra] * 1
    #28612193 - 01/06/24 07:41 PM (21 days, 3 hours ago)

I use a syringe to place drops of water on the caps for small or stubborn prints. Works really well for me for the actual printing process. But if they don't have spores yet, that is not the answer.


--------------------
LAGM 2.024
Stoned Gummys tek (Gummies from sclerotia or mushrooms) *Not just for stones any more
How to succeed in mycology (and life) - know nothing, read everything, try something, and accept advice.
Don't Panic




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetree frog
eats bugs


Registered: 09/14/23
Posts: 442
Loc: lives in trees
Last seen: 1 hour, 37 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator] * 1
    #28612217 - 01/06/24 07:52 PM (21 days, 3 hours ago)

Quote:

AspectOfTheCreator said:
How long do i let my ttbvi shoeboxes consolidate before casing?




I think this is still an open question with most people casing at full colonization and not bothering with consolidation.  But that's just my speculation from reading through other people's grows.

I consolidated some Bisporus for a couple of weeks post 100% colonization and they're in fruiting now so no idea yet if it was helpful.  They did create a lot of metabolites so I suspect they were digesting the sub and storing energy.

I haven't grown ttbvi so maybe someone can speak from experience.  They seem really aggressive though and likely consolidation isn't needed.

It might still be helpful though and I might run some experiments once I get some genetics.  Especially curious if a long consolidation time (2-4 weeks) would give increased potency.


--------------------
Listen to the silence behind the engines' noise.  Jesus, Sweets, listen.  Hear it?  It's a love song.
For whom?
You are loved.
~ David Foster Wallace, Westward the Course of Empire Takes Its Way


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBra
grow panaeolus, it's easy

Registered: 07/12/19
Posts: 341
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 4 hours, 48 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #28612247 - 01/06/24 08:04 PM (21 days, 3 hours ago)

Quote:

ReverendMyc said:
I use a syringe to place drops of water on the caps for small or stubborn prints. Works really well for me for the actual printing process. But if they don't have spores yet, that is not the answer.




Probably placing drops of water on the caps might help in this case, gotta give it a shot, but it really looks like the gills just have no spores inside.
Even when the caps have turned inside out and the shrooms appear to be ripe, they simply don't want to release spores :shrug:


--------------------
Bra's spores giveaway


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblestroopwafelman
I'm a teapot

Registered: 03/21/23
Posts: 375
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bra]
    #28612577 - 01/07/24 04:36 AM (20 days, 18 hours ago)

Got a question on misting - Pan. Bisporus, my casing layer is basically about 70% colonized by mycelium so misting it leads to beads of water forming on the surface of it instead of just hydrating the casing should I still mist it even if there are plenty of microdroplets around or only do so if they start drying up?
Is that kind of overlay ok?
Should I consider applying another layer of casing after the first flush is done and hydrate that properly?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineA.k.aM
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/27/19
Posts: 16,781
Loc: Gaming the system
Last seen: 3 hours, 28 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stroopwafelman] * 2
    #28612581 - 01/07/24 04:51 AM (20 days, 18 hours ago)

Generally if you’ve got plenty of droplets on the surface things will go ok. I’ve never grown bispo myself though.

The substrate and casing should be hydrated beforehand and then misting is mostly to maintain the conditions.


--------------------
LAGM2020


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetree frog
eats bugs


Registered: 09/14/23
Posts: 442
Loc: lives in trees
Last seen: 1 hour, 37 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stroopwafelman]
    #28612650 - 01/07/24 06:44 AM (20 days, 16 hours ago)

I misted them when most of the droplets dried.  Like anything else really.

For a second flush I poured water straight on the substrate and let it pool into the sides.  Let float for a couple of hours, and then poured off the excess.  But im the future I'll probably squirt water between the sub and the casing for second flush to avoid aborts on top.

Anyway, didn't need to recase.


--------------------
Listen to the silence behind the engines' noise.  Jesus, Sweets, listen.  Hear it?  It's a love song.
For whom?
You are loved.
~ David Foster Wallace, Westward the Course of Empire Takes Its Way


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMartytheMushroom
Stranger
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/04/20
Posts: 22
Last seen: 8 hours, 21 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stroopwafelman] * 4
    #28613357 - 01/07/24 07:14 PM (20 days, 4 hours ago)

Quote:

stroopwafelman said:
Got a question on misting - Pan. Bisporus, my casing layer is basically about 70% colonized by mycelium so misting it leads to beads of water forming on the surface of it instead of just hydrating the casing should I still mist it even if there are plenty of microdroplets around or only do so if they start drying up?
Is that kind of overlay ok?
Should I consider applying another layer of casing after the first flush is done and hydrate that properly?




Nah, if you got droplets on top of the mycelium you should be good. My bisporus colonizes the casing but not like a super thick colonization so I wouldn’t consider it overlay but then eventually consolidates and looks kind of matted. Then pins start popping. When I misted, the mycelium wouldn’t let the water go into the casing, so I did inject them a couple times with a needle. You could try that if you’re having doubts.





--------------------
I have panaeolus bisporus prints just message me


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAspectOfTheCreator
Mastering the Art of Success
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/07/22
Posts: 1,263
Last seen: 2 hours, 30 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
    #28613359 - 01/07/24 07:16 PM (20 days, 4 hours ago)



Everything has been cased. Gave the casing a bit of a squeeze. It seemed a good bit above field capacity. I used more water than usual. Pretty sure it should still be ok. I covered as thin as possible, with bits of myc peeking through.

The tray that had stalled seemed to have done so because the sub dried out ontop. Not sure why it only happened with that one. Glad that was the cause and not contam. Gave it a bit of a misting and then cased.


Edited by AspectOfTheCreator (01/07/24 07:28 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGenome794
Spore-Whore-der & Agar-Addict


Registered: 07/20/22
Posts: 436
Loc: The Blue Planet
Last seen: 9 hours, 26 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MartytheMushroom]
    #28613508 - 01/07/24 11:55 PM (19 days, 23 hours ago)

Hey MartytheMushroom,

Thanks this is useful information (for me).
The pics are not too different from my current Bispo grow. This is the third attempt - the others contam'd after a long time of doing-it-wrong.

Looks like you are running unmodified tubs, shoe boxes?
EDIT: have you run dub-tubs? If so, do you use the same "strategy"?

794


Edited by Genome794 (01/07/24 11:56 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCaptainPuffy
Marbles Lost
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/08/11
Posts: 90
Last seen: 2 hours, 2 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Genome794]
    #28613746 - 01/08/24 07:20 AM (19 days, 15 hours ago)

I have some pan cyan mycelium growing. Unfortunately the freeze has started in my area so my source for natural age manure is not available.

Has anyone used something like this successfully?


https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/garden-club-composted-cattle-manure-fertilizer-weed-free-12-5-kg-0599683p.0599683.html?ds_rl=1283573&ds_rl=1283573&gclid=CjwKCAiA1-6sBhAoEiwArqlGPm2_12cnmmNkdss_PhEpnE-FqPlQvs37tIvmTX34XhjI3McTOs4nRxoC5dgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#store=24



Would I be safe to assume that I can pasteurize this just like I would field aged manure?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRockinRobot
Stranger


Registered: 12/08/22
Posts: 861
Last seen: 4 hours, 11 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CaptainPuffy] * 5
    #28613859 - 01/08/24 09:05 AM (19 days, 14 hours ago)

Transfer day. going to poke the first TTBVI plate for LC and also transfer to T2 for both TTBVI. Could probably spawn the first plate but would rather wait and spawn all 3 varieties at 1 time so will transfer again. The Texas Titans and Florida Blue Springs will get T1 plates made today as well.













Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBaba Yaga
♥ coir grower

Registered: 09/13/20
Posts: 3,955
Loc: Hyperspace Chicken Coop
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CaptainPuffy]
    #28613942 - 01/08/24 10:26 AM (19 days, 12 hours ago)

Quote:

CaptainPuffy said:
I have some pan cyan mycelium growing. Unfortunately the freeze has started in my area so my source for natural age manure is not available.

Has anyone used something like this successfully?


https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/garden-club-composted-cattle-manure-fertilizer-weed-free-12-5-kg-0599683p.0599683.html?ds_rl=1283573&ds_rl=1283573&gclid=CjwKCAiA1-6sBhAoEiwArqlGPm2_12cnmmNkdss_PhEpnE-FqPlQvs37tIvmTX34XhjI3McTOs4nRxoC5dgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#store=24



Would I be safe to assume that I can pasteurize this just like I would field aged manure?





:thumbup:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThe Tao
Look at the flowers.


Registered: 09/12/19
Posts: 1,547
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 2 hours, 14 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 2
    #28614031 - 01/08/24 11:35 AM (19 days, 11 hours ago)

Quote:

Baba Yaga said:
Quote:

CaptainPuffy said:
I have some pan cyan mycelium growing. Unfortunately the freeze has started in my area so my source for natural age manure is not available.

Has anyone used something like this successfully?


https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/garden-club-composted-cattle-manure-fertilizer-weed-free-12-5-kg-0599683p.0599683.html?ds_rl=1283573&ds_rl=1283573&gclid=CjwKCAiA1-6sBhAoEiwArqlGPm2_12cnmmNkdss_PhEpnE-FqPlQvs37tIvmTX34XhjI3McTOs4nRxoC5dgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#store=24



Would I be safe to assume that I can pasteurize this just like I would field aged manure?





:thumbup:



I use the same stuff from the same store. I put it through a garden seive to take out any large clumps. 4 parts coir and 1 part manure. Works well.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAspectOfTheCreator
Mastering the Art of Success
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/07/22
Posts: 1,263
Last seen: 2 hours, 30 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: The Tao] * 2
    #28614251 - 01/08/24 04:15 PM (19 days, 7 hours ago)

Cross post:

Flipped my lids and put spacers between them and the tubs to increase FAE.



The air in this room is not static. I got these in a small room dedicated to growing where I have the heat going throughout the house. So air is coming in through vents at floor/ground level. Tubs are on shelves on a desk. Its not aimed directly at the tubs but is this going to cause iasues?

The pans in monotubs thread suggests the flipping the lid with spacing thing. Not sure if that set up is assuming the air in the room is static.


Edited by AspectOfTheCreator (01/08/24 04:33 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJanus62
Call me Hugh
Male User Gallery


Registered: 08/27/22
Posts: 363
Loc: Midlands UK
Last seen: 18 hours, 46 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28614772 - 01/09/24 04:05 AM (18 days, 19 hours ago)

I at last have some well aged horse poo.  I'm delighted to say that it doesn't really smell much of anything, so I'll be able to pasteurise in the kitchen. 

However, it's got lots of bits of straw in it, mostly between 6" and a foot long.

Do I pick the straw out, chop it into smaller bits, or leave it as it is?

Thanks.


--------------------
🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼    🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAspectOfTheCreator
Mastering the Art of Success
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/07/22
Posts: 1,263
Last seen: 2 hours, 30 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Janus62] * 1
    #28614842 - 01/09/24 06:05 AM (18 days, 17 hours ago)

I pick out all the chunks and junk. Its much nicer afterwards.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinefraki58
Mycology Learner


Registered: 11/20/19
Posts: 245
Last seen: 4 days, 11 hours
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28614882 - 01/09/24 06:50 AM (18 days, 16 hours ago)

Couple days till spawning


Man does pan myc look diff. Maybe its the ms showing.

Going to go 50/50 composted cow+horse manure (comes in bags, hope it works), coir, to shoeboxes straighto fruiting, trying to get some pins to clone atleast.


--------------------
If any of the said above is incorrect, please correct me! Still learning here and constructive criticism is the best :smile:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSupaThaRipper
Genetics Hoarder
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 09/02/13
Posts: 1,488
Loc: USA
Last seen: 1 hour, 40 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Janus62] * 2
    #28614962 - 01/09/24 08:32 AM (18 days, 14 hours ago)

I leave it all in there. Small leaf litter and everything. Everything stays unless it’s inorganic. Maybe the foot long pieces I’d cut down a bit lol


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGenome794
Spore-Whore-der & Agar-Addict


Registered: 07/20/22
Posts: 436
Loc: The Blue Planet
Last seen: 9 hours, 26 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #28615141 - 01/09/24 11:35 AM (18 days, 11 hours ago)

:whathesaid:

My horse manure came from a stable. They compost it with the some of horse bedding and and grass/left over feed. So it is maybe 20% bedding and feed/course grass like stuff. I use it as is unless the non horse-poo bits are too big.

So far, in my grows, all the varieties responded well.

794


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJanus62
Call me Hugh
Male User Gallery


Registered: 08/27/22
Posts: 363
Loc: Midlands UK
Last seen: 18 hours, 46 minutes
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #28615145 - 01/09/24 11:37 AM (18 days, 11 hours ago)

Thanks Aspect Supra & Genome. Only just nocced up the jars, but I'm getting excited already :smile:


--------------------
🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼    🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < First | < Back | 1569 | 1570 | 1571 | 1572 | 1573 | 1574 | 1575 | 1576 | 1577 | 1578 | 1579 | 1580 | 1581 | 1582 | 1583 | 1584 | 1585 | 1586 | 1587 | 1588 | 1589 | Next > | Last >

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Boomr Bag   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* The official Psilocybe natalensis thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 514 515 )
Hillbillyjohn 327,769 10,299 01/27/24 01:36 PM
by TheAtlantean
* Official Misc EXOTIC Thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 132 133 )
Jakeoncid419 109,869 2,641 01/27/24 01:42 PM
by rhizoRider
* The Official TAT Family Thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 58 59 )
tiptrippy 62,549 1,168 01/27/24 12:57 PM
by rhizoRider
* Need some more input on Martha tents please. ReCreateS 54 1 01/23/24 04:25 PM
by Ch3f
* Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 21 22 )
Hindsight 15,679 421 01/26/24 01:44 PM
by Changed
* Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms
( 1 2 3 all )
tregar 4,222 58 01/26/24 04:28 PM
by tregar
* The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion
( 1 2 3 4 ... 647 648 )
firstTIMER420 467,729 12,956 01/27/24 12:17 PM
by Genome794
* stalled mycelium ? unmodified tubes with APEs epss883 60 3 01/27/24 06:34 PM
by epss883

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
923,690 topic views. 22 members, 245 guests and 64 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.035 seconds spending 0.013 seconds on 13 queries.