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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28609250 - 01/04/24 08:13 AM (23 days, 15 hours ago) |
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tree frog said: Will be loading up some jars of cow poo and rye berries today to start testing out clones. Plan is to do 50/50 manure/grains and spawn to another quart of coir/verm. Giving me a 2:1:1 ratio coir:poo:grain or a 3:1 ratio of grain to substrate.
Does this seem good or should I use a bit more poo or a bit more coir?
I used a 30% manure content in my mixture/sub
Hydrated the coir using bucket tek, then add the manure in by weight.
7lbs hydrated coir 3lbs manure Balance with vermiculite
And then I pasteurize.
Your ratios seem fine based on the info Iβve seen.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 2
#28609593 - 01/04/24 03:45 PM (23 days, 7 hours ago) |
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My TTBVI tubs 72 hours post spawn. 20% horse manure in coir with 1/4" top layer.

These are more experimental. Theyre being heated a bit and in water tubs to prevent drying out. One seems more colonized than the other with its top layer virtually finished already.

Edited by AspectOfTheCreator (01/04/24 03:53 PM)
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Looking good!
Going to clone this one.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28609608 - 01/04/24 03:54 PM (23 days, 7 hours ago) |
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Hey Baba, do you recommend I case all these when the time comes? How often do you let yours run with no casing?
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Second flush of Bisporus.
Dunked this one and its cousin, as both had dried out a lot from being on the heat mat since around Thanksgiving. Built a water tub with an aquarium heater in it to hopefully solve that issue and hopefully better FAE/humidity toi. Going to add air pumps tomorrow once the tubing gets here.


Pretty happy with it so far. Just drilled one 2.5" or so hole in the back to squeeze my heater and air lines in while letting co2 out. Time will tell if that's enough for FAE or to much for the humidity levels I want. I'm sure it'll need some dialing in but hopefully adjusting the lid and maybe choking that hole up with polyfill will do the trick.

Fruiting tamps and bisporus, all MS still. One of the tamp totes just started pinning too. Experimenting with sand/peat casing on bisporus in the upper left corner. Was what I had prepped so figured I'd give it a shot.
Spent more than I needed too probably but hopefully the tropical and subtropical mushroom gods enjoy it.
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AspectOfTheCreator said: Hey Baba, do you recommend I case all these when the time comes? How often do you let yours run with no casing?
I'd case these. Usually I only run uncased if I have introduced fruiting conditions at spawn. So far the pans I grew responded well to it but Bisporus seems to like consolidation and casing better but will have to run more tubs to form a conveyable opinion.
You can always do one differently for science if you have enough to play with.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#28609645 - 01/04/24 04:20 PM (23 days, 6 hours ago) |
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Baba, the sand cased Bisporus bags pictured above consolidated in the bag for about two weeks after full colonization. (Felt like experimenting and didn't have room to fruit them at the time).
Cased and into fruiting probably three days ago.
I'll post an update when I notice pins etc.
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Edited by tree frog (01/04/24 04:23 PM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 1
#28609650 - 01/04/24 04:26 PM (23 days, 6 hours ago) |
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That will be interesting. I feel like a long consolidation works well with Bisporus but I haven't outgrown my bisporus nappies yet and am curious to see how it works out for you. I like experiments
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 2
#28609669 - 01/04/24 04:40 PM (23 days, 6 hours ago) |
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They certainly take their time to pin which is why I figured I'd leave them in the bag and see if they wanted to consolidate awhile. They make some wicked amber metabolites too that I didn't notice so much on the ones I didn't consolidate.

Same bag under UV light.

This one's still not in fruiting and was inoculated the same time as the ones I sand cased. I'll probably run it soon but with peat/verm instead of the peat/sand for casing.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28609953 - 01/04/24 09:33 PM (23 days, 1 hour ago) |
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Um, there is a small seedling sprouting in my substrate?? It is almost ready to case as well... wtf should I do? Rip it out?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fairyring]
#28610020 - 01/04/24 11:21 PM (22 days, 23 hours ago) |
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Nehture eh. Pull it oyut.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 2
#28610151 - 01/05/24 05:43 AM (22 days, 17 hours ago) |
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About 8-9 days after casing this Pan. Bisporus tub we finally got pins (pretty sparse so far but it's something). I guess it wasn't a tub of mold after all.

Didn't mist the tub much up to this point, since the microdroplets stayed around for quite some time after the one time I misted it (probably around 60% of the surface is still covered by them). Should I mist more? Baba's Pan. 20quart monotub setup, currently bottom holes (31mm) are about 60% covered with micropore, top holes are open) Any advice welcome.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stroopwafelman]
#28610167 - 01/05/24 06:25 AM (22 days, 16 hours ago) |
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I've been misting mine but very mindfully and with a spray pump mister (finer drops then a spray bottle).
I'd say about 5 or 10 percent aborted on me. Which I don't mind, I don't want to clone fragile genetics anyway.
Edit: If you still have 60% droplets and they're spread out not like, 40% is bone dry, I'd wait on misting till 20%. If it is more dry in certain areas you're FAE may need some adjustment and I'd probably hit those dry spots with a sprayer or mister.
Mostly, and this is coming from growing a lot of edibles, I am trying to promote evaporation while also not losing pins from over or under misting. Oyster mushrooms for example will abort if they dry out. So I'm trying to hit that sweet spot and trust that the casing will give me some margin for error.
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Edited by tree frog (01/05/24 06:42 AM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 2
#28610173 - 01/05/24 06:40 AM (22 days, 16 hours ago) |
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Pans seem to do ok with water. When I ran my fogger too high I had pins popping up in the puddles.
This is the only picture of that tub I could find, I think this is third flush wild coast
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#28610186 - 01/05/24 07:03 AM (22 days, 16 hours ago) |
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Should I have put a top layer of coir/manure on my tub at spawn if I'm planning on casing anyway?
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I do a thin top layer with other species I spawn and case and plan to do so with these now that I figured out how to run spawn (my pan grows so far have been all in one bags).
Mostly because not having seeds exposed on the top layer makes applying an even casing a little easier for me.
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Edited by tree frog (01/05/24 07:41 AM)
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AspectOfTheCreator said: Damn, TTBVI.
48 hours post spawn. Never seen anything like this. None of my past attempts with pan cambo or og bvi were anything like this. And the smell when I cracked the jars to spawn...

Agree... Though not all of my plates/spawn/bulk of TTBVI are that fast. My current box is:
 Day after casing
 Two days after casing.
 Now 5 days after casing... The tall ones are nearly 6". As you can see from the clusters at the bottom I am finally getting the misting volumes right.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Genome794]
#28610403 - 01/05/24 11:35 AM (22 days, 11 hours ago) |
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TTBVI is on my radar. Anyone have experience with those and Bisporus? I know both are generally very potent but it seems like TTBVI is more aggressive and faster to fruit?
How's it run on grains? Are you all having to put poo etc. in TTBVI jars?
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Edited by tree frog (01/05/24 11:36 AM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 1
#28610451 - 01/05/24 12:14 PM (22 days, 11 hours ago) |
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I have bisporus on grain. TTBVI is by far the most aggressive pan in my experience. Stupid fast. I cannot wait to get fruits from Bispo to try but the ttbvi is extremely potent. No need to put poo with the grains in them. Theyβll do well with no additives at all. I can send you some swabs dude
Edit: you should be able to go from spore to consumption in a month
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28610517 - 01/05/24 01:17 PM (22 days, 9 hours ago) |
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No manure in grains. It colonized the jar in like 10 days. Pan spawn seems to go a long way. I did half quarts last run and they finished even faster. My past attempts with putting manure in the jar failed so Im hesitant to try it again.
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