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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 1
    #28607224 - 01/02/24 02:34 PM (25 days, 8 hours ago)

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After considerable metric to imperial fuckery, my standard is 1 and a half tsp per pint. Maybe try upping your hydrated lime to this and go from there. My usual recipe is metric by volume but then the lime is measured in imperial units :shrug:

3L peat, 1L Verm, 650ml water with 1tbsp calcium hydroxide

I dissolve the lime in the water and then hydrate the casing with the lime infused water. I do get some colonisation of the casing layer (never usually detrimental) but on my next run was gunna try 2 tbsp




Thanks swab, I don't know why I'm not dissolving in the water already either lol.  I occasionally take notes and happened to notice I went lighter on the lime this run....for whatever reason i don't remember, but I've never run into this issue with overlay and it seems like you may have nailed it.:cheers:

Any suggestions how I should treat overlayed trays?



Not too sure what you can do with trays that have already overlayed. Not sure whether casing again would be beneficial or a detriment. The only advice I can offer is maybe case 1 and leave the other and report back?

Edit: Thinking about it, I would definitely recase with some higher Ph casing layer :thumbup:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley]
    #28607334 - 01/02/24 03:53 PM (25 days, 7 hours ago)

Has anyone had luck with or seen mycelium resembling mine and confirmed it was pan mycelium? Not sure if I'm just growing mold and very focused on it.lol
Panaeolus Cambodginiensis Sandose.
Transfer #5 I believe
Originally from spore syringe from T.V.

Here are some t3 and t4 plates sometimes they get matted and sometimes they're wispy and stay a little more flat so I try to transfer those ones that seem wispy but I've also changed my agar recipes so that could account to the sligh variations between some of the plates


Edit:had a lot more details but it was way too much to read especially if it is mold. But should mention that there's a lot of areal mycelium and it's disorganized. It's always hard to see details in a picture I think.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Reishiman] * 1
    #28607601 - 01/02/24 07:05 PM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

Your picture is pretty poor but I ran out Bisporus that looked similar.  I wasn't convinced it was Bisporus until it fruited because it looked like mold I'd seen on cube plates and not much like most of the other Pan mycelium I'd seen in this thread.

But it fruited well from multispore in suboptimal conditions.

If nothing is trying to spore in those plates (i.e. if that morphology isn't pumping out green and black mold invitro) I'd definitely try to run it out.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #28607932 - 01/03/24 02:26 AM (24 days, 20 hours ago)

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I’m assuming he’s worried about rutting up the yard maybe. I wouldn’t worry about adding poo to the grain personally. Especially if it’s ttbvi.




Hi Supa.  It is indeed - thanks again man.

I'd read a few posts suggesting a bit of poo in the grain might help (perhaps reduce the impact of a change of diet when spawned), but I'll forego it this time and hopefully be able to get poo for the bulk before the jars colonise.

I started 4 germ plates from your print, all of which grew clean!  I'd prepared 33 plates ready for transfer to allow for the 'inevitable' failures, but used the needle method to transfer such tiny pieces that I ended up innoculating all of them from just 2 plates. 

One week later and I've got 28 T1s with clean uniform growth that will be ready for grain by the weekend.  (The others look pretty clean, but there's a bit of sectoring so I'll dump them - just as well as I don't have enough jars). You really weren't kidding when you said they were fast!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
    #28607973 - 01/03/24 04:25 AM (24 days, 18 hours ago)

Thanks tree frog. Crazy how much it looks like mold. I've never seen it mentioned how disorganized pan mycelium can be if it is Pan mycelium. That's cool that you've grown out and fruited similar looking growth though. That gives me some reassurance. I had transferred some t4 plates from this culture to grains on the 17 of December and spawned to bulk trays on Christmas day. Those trays are mostly colonized right now just letting them consolidate a little before I case. Will post again with more updates on this grow whether it fails or not for information purposes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Reishiman]
    #28608004 - 01/03/24 05:20 AM (24 days, 17 hours ago)

Actually here is a little better picture of that t5 plate. Wanted to point out some of the whiskers of mycelium are reaching out from the transfer wedge and touching lid of the plates.
Also some pictures of colonizing trays that were spawned on Christmas Day and came from some t4 plates from this culture. Some of them have a lot of condensation and some not a lot. Not sure why but possibly speed of colonizing substrate and how much heat produced could be a factor. Room temperature has been about 70 to 74 degrees mostly.


One part of this one seems uncolonized while the rest seems completely colonized. Hopefully there isn't a ton of bacteria in there or something



This one's a little behind but less condensation and more visible.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Reishiman]
    #28608198 - 01/03/24 09:21 AM (24 days, 13 hours ago)

Update on that tray that left one area uncolonized. Got a closer look and noticed mold growing on the uncolonized area. So I threw it away but took some pictures with the lid off to see if you guys think it's mold or pan mycelium in the rest of the tray. I know the darker area has some mold growing but to me the rest of it kinda looks like mold too which would be a shame because that's how all my trays look. also took some pictures of the bottom of the substrate when throwing it away. The bottom looks like clean mycelium and seems to smell like mushroom mycelium although I have only grown cubes so far so not positive how it should smell.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Reishiman]
    #28608248 - 01/03/24 10:08 AM (24 days, 13 hours ago)

I've been getting mold alot as well... I totally separated the cake, mold from mushy myc, and used it spawn outdoors


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: syri] * 8
    #28608420 - 01/03/24 12:34 PM (24 days, 10 hours ago)

Cross post from the tub thread:

Currently I have Bisporus spawned to a few jars and apart from one they are all pinning. I kept the lid silghtly cracked during colonization/consolidation, then cased and put the lid on like shown in the photos.






The Bisporus tubs are coming kinda right now. This is the best looking tub which still produces uneven pinning but is looking much better than at the beginning. Should have probably let it consolidate for a bit longer.




I was takeing caps from this tub to print and had the ISO sprayer on the table to sanitize the snips I used. At the end I gave this tub a generous mist with ISO :lol: To mitigate the effect I floated the sub to dilute the alcohol but when flipped the tub up to drain the water off two thirds of the substrate collapsed into the sink :lol::lol: I just watched myself doing this little slapstick routine and couldn't even get really worked up about it. The only thing annoying was that I wanted to take a few more clones from this tub. Harvested what I could see and pick out and started to scoop the substrate out of the sink back into the tub.

It looks like this now. Will be interesting to see if it does bounce back or contaminates.




Have one more RDU tub flushing and it is doing better than the first one. I do leave the fruits to mature for longer til they are very obviously dropping spores before I take the caps to print. Some of the caps are opening up to about 15mm which is an OK size for RDU.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: syri]
    #28608436 - 01/03/24 12:48 PM (24 days, 10 hours ago)

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I've been getting mold alot as well... I totally separated the cake, mold from mushy myc, and used it spawn outdoors



I'm experimenting with turning it into compost for my garden in the spring. it's cold where I am so hopefully the mold will die off or just turn to dirt. Was thinking of trying to make a worm compost bin. I wonder if the worms would be trippin from the Psilocybin in the mycelium.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
    #28608448 - 01/03/24 01:05 PM (24 days, 10 hours ago)

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The Bisporus tubs are coming kinda right now. This is the best looking tub which still produces uneven pinning but is looking much better than at the beginning. Should have probably let it consolidate for a bit longer.







Damn!  That Bispo tub looks damn good to me.  I've got two trays going in the tent with a print 3rd party from ruawakeyet's amazing outdoor grow.  They have been pinning about a week now, and while slow, seem steady!  I'm hoping my fruits look as good as yours baba!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: sleepydave] * 2
    #28608592 - 01/03/24 03:25 PM (24 days, 7 hours ago)

Thanks Dave, I really love the variation you get with Bisporus and how the mushrooms are changing throughout the grow. At the moment I am in awe with panaeolus bisporus and psilocybe subtropicalis. If I was only allowed to grow one of the species I grew so far for the rest of my life it would be one of the two.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
    #28608608 - 01/03/24 03:43 PM (24 days, 7 hours ago)

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Thanks Dave, I really love the variation you get with Bisporus and how the mushrooms are changing throughout the grow. At the moment I am in awe with panaeolus bisporus and psilocybe subtropicalis. If I was only allowed to grow one of the species I grew so far for the rest of my life it would be one of the two.





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 2
    #28608648 - 01/03/24 04:13 PM (24 days, 7 hours ago)

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Thanks Dave, I really love the variation you get with Bisporus and how the mushrooms are changing throughout the grow. At the moment I am in awe with panaeolus bisporus and psilocybe subtropicalis. If I was only allowed to grow one of the species I grew so far for the rest of my life it would be one of the two.




Yeah there's something about the dark caps that is just really appealing compared to how unpigmented most pancyans are.  They have a stark beauty to them.

Funny you say that haha.  As much as I love pan cyans, Pan Bispo, Pan Tropicalis and Psilocybe Subtropicalis have taken my heart this past year.  Planning on cultivating a lot more of them all this coming year.

Great to have a bunch of faster pan cyan grows to keep my attention during the long termers though haha


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: sleepydave] * 5
    #28608742 - 01/03/24 05:27 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

Damn, TTBVI.

48 hours post spawn. Never seen anything like this. None of my past attempts with pan cambo or og bvi were anything like this. And the smell when I cracked the jars to spawn...



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28608780 - 01/03/24 05:59 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

the smell... is that good or bad?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Floret]
    #28608806 - 01/03/24 06:19 PM (24 days, 4 hours ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 2
    #28608823 - 01/03/24 06:31 PM (24 days, 4 hours ago)

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Thanks Dave, I really love the variation you get with Bisporus and how the mushrooms are changing throughout the grow. At the moment I am in awe with panaeolus bisporus and psilocybe subtropicalis. If I was only allowed to grow one of the species I grew so far for the rest of my life it would be one of the two.





Why? I’m curious





Mostly because they are really pretty to look at the variation in phenotypes is wider. Growing just a generic pan cyan or cambo would be very boring from a visual point of view. This might has something to do with the fact that I haven't grown much else for the last 6 years. I have to agree that a good cyan/cambo is just great to watch pushing through in a couple of weeks from spawn to finish, just looks generic. These days I don't care so much for potency anymore, a unique feature or overall appearance is currently more important to me. Growing a tub full of chunky cube dicks is still on my bucket list which I hope to achieve with steel magnolia in the near future.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
    #28609136 - 01/04/24 06:07 AM (23 days, 17 hours ago)

Whats up guys, checking in with my pan grow.
Clean transfer, i have this cult for backup in case things go south



Grain jars 8 days in looking cool.





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
    #28609235 - 01/04/24 07:53 AM (23 days, 15 hours ago)

Will be loading up some jars of cow poo and rye berries today to start testing out clones.  Plan is to do 50/50 manure/grains and spawn to another quart of coir/verm.  Giving me a 2:1:1 ratio coir:poo:grain or a 3:1 ratio of grain to substrate.

Does this seem good or should I use a bit more poo or a bit more coir?


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