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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin] * 3
    #28559251 - 11/28/23 09:16 AM (2 months, 5 hours ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley]
    #28559291 - 11/28/23 10:17 AM (2 months, 4 hours ago)

Thanks all.
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theodor said:
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ReverendMyc said:
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I am reading 21mg/g x 2 for 4.2% actives. Tallest reading for me to date.



Nice! If that reading is accurate, you would have won the Psychedelic Club of Denver Mushroom competition. What scale are you using by the way? I'd like to get something similar.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012TDNAM?th=1
I have several other cheaper and/or larger, but had to get this one for sufficient accuracy for testing at these levels. I use condiment cups on the plate to hold everything and it reliably detects the difference in their weights. I am happy with it.

Side note: I will be doing 1/3 tests with potentially potent exotics going forward.
0.050 grams and triple the reading will hopefully put them closer to the middle of the results color scale, which is generally preferable for extrapolation measurements.

And another side note: I sourced these spores from the place that the winner of one of the "Cups" claimed they got theirs. I fell for the hype, but it panned out this time.

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As I experimented with other species, I said “fuck cubes” for sure but could never truly get rid of em. Nats, Tamps, Semps don’t give me deep introspective/therapeutic trips. Now that I’ve finally made my way to Pans, it’s fuck cubes fr :lol:

I tried .25g TTBVI a couple weeks ago and had an intense experience. I could see up through my ceiling into the universe. Intricate OEVs with a brutal, dark headspace I’d blame on set/setting. Time dilation galore. I’d compare the experience to 1g strong/mutant cubes.



Thanks for this timely post Mojave. I have been really excited for these and was thinking, fuck it, I will do my standard 1g test dose for a new species. I Love, Love, Love lsd and visuals, so I am not a psychedelic novice. But I seem to have a pretty high sensitivity for mushrooms, in that they usually hit me pretty strongly. So I think I will be chicken and try a bit more moderation for the first go.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin]
    #28559315 - 11/28/23 10:49 AM (2 months, 3 hours ago)

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I'll see how tall they can get :smile: When do I harvest? I don't think there's a veil. I'll def eat them raw



Pan hasn't a veil. I'd harvest when they begin to drop spores.

Supa has a nice pic in his signature (1st from the right). Good time for harvesting too.
About this. 8 grams of raw shrooms I think is a good accurate dose for the first time. I'd stick with 8 grams.
It's an equivaltent of aprox. 0.4 g dry.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bra]
    #28559325 - 11/28/23 10:59 AM (2 months, 3 hours ago)

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Bra said:
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theodor said:
I'll see how tall they can get :smile: When do I harvest? I don't think there's a veil. I'll def eat them raw



Pan hasn't a veil. I'd harvest when they begin to drop spores.

Supa has a nice pic in his signature (1st from the right). Good time for harvesting too.
About this. 8 grams of raw shrooms I think is a good accurate dose for the first time. I'd stick with 8 grams.
It's an equivaltent of aprox. 0.4 g dry.



Thanks. Looks like they might be ready when the gills start to protrude from under the cap


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin]
    #28559364 - 11/28/23 11:31 AM (2 months, 3 hours ago)

Hmm...  seeing up through my ceiling into the universe is about where I like to be.  Beyond that gets confusing.

So, maybe I'll start with 0.25g instead of 0.5 lol

I might need to look into a more accurate scale too.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
    #28559415 - 11/28/23 12:19 PM (2 months, 2 hours ago)

@ Rev right on, happy to warn ya lol. Same here on the sensitivity. They are very powerful mushrooms. Pretty rare for something to live up to such hype. Though now that I know what’s good I’m looking forward to revisiting them. 

@ supa I know these are stronger than other pans but anyone taking 2g+ of any pan is simply built different in my eyes :lol:

@tree frog It def crossed my mind that my scale might not be cut out for pans. I turned 18g into gummies, so the dose might have been like .27 or so. Def had some confusion. Staring at the wall slack jawed why the fuck am I standing here confused.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc]
    #28559420 - 11/28/23 12:25 PM (2 months, 2 hours ago)

I ate 7 grams of amazonians a few weeks ago (did not grow those myself). Was a nice relaxing trip, but I did trip before that less than a week prior and I'm on ssri's


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
    #28559428 - 11/28/23 12:40 PM (2 months, 1 hour ago)

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ReverendMyc said:
Thanks all.
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theodor said:
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ReverendMyc said:
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I am reading 21mg/g x 2 for 4.2% actives. Tallest reading for me to date.



Nice! If that reading is accurate, you would have won the Psychedelic Club of Denver Mushroom competition. What scale are you using by the way? I'd like to get something similar.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012TDNAM?th=1
I have several other cheaper and/or larger, but had to get this one for sufficient accuracy for testing at these levels. I use condiment cups on the plate to hold everything and it reliably detects the difference in their weights. I am happy with it.



Bad form to quote myself, but I just noticed the price drop to under $25 on that scale. Must be a black friday thing, cause I paid double that a month ago. Highly recommend this scale at this price.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SwabMarley]
    #28560313 - 11/29/23 05:08 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Hey everyone out there helping and doing there part in making this community of Mycology great .I'm a very passionate Pan Cyans study/grower looking for anyone that wants to help a true lover of fungi make his dream come true by blessing me with any PAN CYAN GENETICS.Im not by any means financially capable or else I would of tried buying some but got ripped off the last time. So please if your out there and want to better a person's world I would be forever thankful


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #28560318 - 11/29/23 05:19 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Hey I feel the same about Pan Cyans and have been focused on just them but I'm not connected to a lot of people and was asking if you or someone you know would love to donate some Pan Cyans prints or genetics I would be forever grateful. Thank you for all you put out for the community


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin] * 2
    #28560323 - 11/29/23 05:24 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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theodor said:
Two days later

:unbelievable:




They grow up so fast 🥲
Have you taken any pans before!?



Never :smile: My first successful grow ever of any kind. I have some nats going as well, but only a couple side pins as of now :smile:




One of them is about 8 cm tall :unbelievable:
No longer babies.

There are a few small ones where cap turned black. I assume they are aborting. Should I eat them before they rot?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin]
    #28560345 - 11/29/23 06:04 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

@theodor You could wait like 1 day or 2 days, then harvest, because hey're not opening the caps yet, maybe it would grow by little. If you wanna trip so much, harvesting now would be a good option too I thnik, but I'd wait at least one day.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bra]
    #28560360 - 11/29/23 06:21 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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@theodor You could wait like 1 day or 2 days, then harvest, because hey're not opening the caps yet, maybe it would grow by little. If you wanna trip so much, harvesting now would be a good option too I thnik, but I'd wait at least one day.



Hey Bra! Do you mean I should harvest the little aborting ones in one or two days?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin]
    #28560407 - 11/29/23 07:12 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Hey theodor, I mean harvesting all shrooms in once in 1 or 2 days, I did't mind the little aborts, I'd let them grow as is.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bra]
    #28560476 - 11/29/23 08:59 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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Hey theodor, I mean harvesting all shrooms in once in 1 or 2 days, I did't mind the little aborts, I'd let them grow as is.



Roger :smile:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin] * 6
    #28560509 - 11/29/23 09:32 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Follow up for FPJ experiment, fruits definitely growing but very lackluster in quantity, and aesthetics. That being said I do think I can see a minor improvement in quantity at least between the 1:500 and 1:1000 substrates, the 1:500 seems to putting out slightly more so this gives me hope that lowering the ratio more could lend better results in quantity at least. As far as aesthetics go I think the lower ratio could help but also I did not place these tubs in the ideal position in my room, eg tucked away against the walls and non ideal room for airflow, which I have seen to be important at least when using unmodded tubs. For future trials I’ll be more mindful to give them a better placement to get the best result possible. I also think if they still grow in this less than ideal situation they have a better chance to flourish in a more ideal placement and more dense nutrient profile.

1:500 substrate



1:1000 substrate



All this to say I have a long way to go with these trials to compete with the manure base I’m used to using. Still chasing the wall to wall with these guys, but getting closer each generation.



Hoping to eventually find the correct ratio for this FPJ additive primarily because what I live about manure is that it is a free waste product, FPJ also fits into that category somewhat. I’m also curious as to how different FPJ mixtures could affect the overall profile, though that experiment won’t occur until next year when my garden isn’t frozen like it is now. I should add my current batch of FPJ was made from morning glory shoots and raspberry shoots. I’d like to play around with different plant combinations. I chose morning glory and raspberry for this one as those are the two plants that are most prolific and aggressive in my backyard currently. More research needs to be done this winter for me.

Edit: I’ll also add like sleepydave the substrate is being prepped via bucket tek so no pasteurization, just want to clarify that.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] * 1
    #28560681 - 11/29/23 12:20 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

FPJ = ? I used the search function and just found "FPJ" and not the expanded term, and can't seem to intuit what it could be. Fully expecting a "duh" moment ... From the context and Googling, is it "fermented plant juice"?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: oxo] * 1
    #28560686 - 11/29/23 12:22 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

:cujo:
Fresh Plant Juice


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: oxo]
    #28560693 - 11/29/23 12:25 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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FPJ = ? I used the search function and just found "FPJ" and not the expanded term, and can't seem to intuit what it could be. Fully expecting a "duh" moment ... From the context and Googling, is it "fermented plant juice"?





AFAIK it’s in reference to the additive they are putting into the sub as a form of nutrient content and controlling it to see what can be done about direct supplementation

Seaweed and other types of all in one fertz


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: oxo] * 3
    #28560753 - 11/29/23 01:04 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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oxo said:
FPJ = ? I used the search function and just found "FPJ" and not the expanded term, and can't seem to intuit what it could be. Fully expecting a "duh" moment ... From the context and Googling, is it "fermented plant juice"?



Yes fermented plant juice, one part of Korean natural farming. Essentially it’s just cuttings of vigorous plant shoots, typically you’d use weeds in you garden, fermented in brown sugar for about a week or two. Resulting juice should be high in NPK as well as plant hormones and such. Use it with my plants when I remember as a fertilizer, similar to liquid compost I would guess.

FPJ I suspect will be harder to nail down a specific recipe for supplementation as exact values aren’t defined as with store bought fertilizers but I do think some rough basis could be established, though I expect to have to make adjustments between batches of FPJ

I am far from an expert on this on though and have a basic rudimentary understanding of the stuff. So grain of salt type shit.


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