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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper] * 1
    #28557298 - 11/26/23 02:21 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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My first (non-side) pins ever. Ttbvi half pint  hpoo brf verm fahtbag.




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What's so funny :laugh:




That’s not laughter 🤣 that’s excitement! I’m happy for you!



Thanks! We share the same excitement then :smile: These babies grow fast


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin] * 1
    #28557485 - 11/26/23 04:45 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)





Thanks! We share the same excitement then :smile: These babies grow fast



Call me weird, but I think they taste great too.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Skropi]
    #28557492 - 11/26/23 04:51 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

They are crazy fast lol


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper] * 2
    #28557543 - 11/26/23 05:22 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

They are very cute, fast and I love their taste! :tongue:
Fresh ones remind me of pastures, cottage cheese, great summer times, flowers, and fruits! :laugh:

Nice cluster goes up, theodor! :thumbup:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bra] * 8
    #28557622 - 11/26/23 06:18 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Prehistoric Blue Springs vs a standard Blue Springs print...


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #28557862 - 11/26/23 11:16 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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They are crazy fast lol



Dudes/dudets. I am failing at getting them to stay healthy on rye. They keep stalling and won’t recover. Is that normal for pan cultures? I just haven’t had the heart to spawn them. I guess I should. But I started a few new TTBVI cultures a few days ago and also sent them to grain tonight as what looked to be clean MS plates.

So here’s to wishful thoughts and actions.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 1
    #28557869 - 11/26/23 11:44 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

What percentage were the jars at when you shook them last?

Post a few photos.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Skropi]
    #28557877 - 11/27/23 12:01 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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Thanks! We share the same excitement then :smile: These babies grow fast



Call me weird, but I think they taste great too.</font></font>



Oh I believe you. Looking forward to tasting it. A few days ago I tried a fresh natalensis for the first time (really first time for any kind of psychedelic mushroom) and I don't know what I expected, but it tasted like a mushroom :laugh:

Looking forward to trying pans fresh


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bra]
    #28557879 - 11/27/23 12:03 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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They are very cute, fast and I love their taste! :tongue:
Fresh ones remind me of pastures, cottage cheese, great summer times, flowers, and fruits! :laugh:

Nice cluster goes up, theodor! :thumbup:



Thank you! I think at least nats and probably cubensis go well with pork. Maybe even beer marinated, slow oven cooked pork. Nom nom


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean]
    #28557881 - 11/27/23 12:07 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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They are crazy fast lol



Dudes/dudets. I am failing at getting them to stay healthy on rye. They keep stalling and won’t recover. Is that normal for pan cultures? I just haven’t had the heart to spawn them. I guess I should. But I started a few new TTBVI cultures a few days ago and also sent them to grain tonight as what looked to be clean MS plates.

So here’s to wishful thoughts and actions.



You sure you have enough GE? I've only had pans stall with an obviously bacterial and wet af jar. Most of my jars are well under-hydrated and it works fine, takes a while to colonize though


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: sleepydave] * 1
    #28557891 - 11/27/23 12:28 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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Prehistoric Blue Springs vs a standard Blue Springs print...





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] * 1
    #28557894 - 11/27/23 12:38 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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Contrast of Bispo myc to BVI myc on grain





Would you consider that BVI good to go? Asking because I have a Jambo culture that looks similar on grain but have been hesitant to spawn it. Pan myc’s still kinda foreign to me



In my experience BVI always looks like this. Almost bacterial but I’m fairly certain it is good to go. Will be spawning it today so we’ll soon find out!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 1
    #28557952 - 11/27/23 04:41 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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They are crazy fast lol



Dudes/dudets. I am failing at getting them to stay healthy on rye. They keep stalling and won’t recover. Is that normal for pan cultures? I just haven’t had the heart to spawn them. I guess I should. But I started a few new TTBVI cultures a few days ago and also sent them to grain tonight as what looked to be clean MS plates.

So here’s to wishful thoughts and actions.




I had the same problem in the past. More recently Ive been having success using smaller jars. Granted it is a pain inoculating 4x the amount of jars. Im doing half pints but maybe pint jars would work better.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator] * 1
    #28558130 - 11/27/23 09:35 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

So what I’ve noticed with TTBVI specifically (as that’s only pan I’ve fruited so far) they seeemedbto colonize significantly faster on WBS than they did for me on whole oats. That being said. The whole oats I have going are like 3 or 4th g2g generation. So that could have a play in it.

I have a clone going right now on agar. Once I transfer, I may use a couple different grains and do a comparison. I also have everything sleepydave was handing out on agar right now as well. So I’ll compare with those as well 🤷‍♂️

Maybe you have bacteria. Grab some healthy looking grains and put them on agar or just restart from print


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28558249 - 11/27/23 11:37 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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What percentage were the jars at when you shook them last?

Post a few photos.





they were colonized if I remember correctly.

I’m probably gonna start tossing manure in with the pan jars


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 4
    #28558374 - 11/27/23 01:18 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Grains can look all fucked up and don't seem to recover after a shake from about 60% upwards and you shook them close to or after full colonization. Spawn a couple at least to find out. Putting some grains on agar is also a good idea and I would take the worst looking grains as well just to prove that there IS bacteria.

I came across quite a few examples where people thought that their spawn magically went bacterial, even well experienced members.

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I have to start over. I had two separate cultures that looked good until I shook the jars. The myc struggled to recover and they went south. I think that they were bacterial. That happened on 3 occasions so instead of grain, I sterilized some jars of hpoo, straw and verm and directly inoculated them. Those jars didn't do anything at all.




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Yeah I have noticed if I shake nearly ANY of my pan jars at around 75% or 90%, they never look pretty after that. They do look better than the one in your pic, but only some areas have a nice thin even coverage of mycelium, while others look bare, and still others have some spots of more dense white. I have not been able to determine if that is something different about pans vs cubes, or if I'm dealing with contamination of some sort. Interesting that you spawn them and they do just fine though.




and this is after I convinced him to give it a try

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I find that common in many pan cyan varieties, if you shake them too close to full colonization. Where "too close" is, I can't say because it isn't consistent. It's a bit of a gamble, but bottom line is that if I felt my agar was clean and I don't see any obvious contam signs in the jar, I will send the jar to substrate. Usually it works great. I don't see any completely bare grains in that jar (maybe one). No wet grains either. I would send that jar. Besides, you don't have anything other than some cheap substrate to lose.





When it happened to me I threw jars out at first but it happened so often with totally fine looking jars when shaken at a later stage that I refused to believe the jars were contaminated. I spawned a few and they worked as well as the others. I avoid shaking past 20-30% now.

YMMV but it is worth while checking out....certainly better than chucking out grain without knowing.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28558578 - 11/27/23 05:00 PM (2 months, 21 hours ago)

Ok here are a few photos of the jar that looks stalled





As you can see it looks like it never fully recovered


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 2
    #28558653 - 11/27/23 05:48 PM (2 months, 20 hours ago)

That looks about the same as the stuff I'm talking about. If it was nearly or fully colonized before the shake then I would let it sit for a few days, maybe a week and spawn.

I only have two shitty photos at the moment but will try replicating the effect and post some more.






I hope it works out.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28558672 - 11/27/23 06:03 PM (2 months, 20 hours ago)

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That looks about the same as the stuff I'm talking about. If it was nearly or fully colonized before the shake then I would let it sit for a few days, maybe a week and spawn.

I only have two shitty photos at the moment but will try replicating the effect and post some more.






I hope it works out.




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 2
    #28558877 - 11/27/23 09:07 PM (2 months, 17 hours ago)



Also :whathesaid: to Baba's comment.

This tub came from the middle jar in the second picture which is what it looked like two or three days after a shake. All three where shaken at the same time.


This was the two pan jars a day or two before the shake.


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