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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28529400 - 11/04/23 06:05 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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OK, all good. Just wanted to make sure that it's not the worst possible you are going to do. You seem to have a good sense of what things should look like and can troubleshoot yourself when it goes in an undesired direction.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28529425 - 11/04/23 06:25 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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My girlfriend doesn't like to run the heat much at night and it's a poorly insulated back bedroom.
Trying to find a compromise to keep the heating bill reasonable.
Last winter we tried putting a space heater in the basement to keep the tent warm enough for a shiitake culture I was running. It didn't work and wasn't cheap.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28529518 - 11/04/23 07:23 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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I hear you, that is why I don't grow in winter. Just doing a little culture work in the cold season to prep for when it's getting warm again.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28529933 - 11/05/23 06:25 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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tree frog said: My girlfriend doesn't like to run the heat much at night and it's a poorly insulated back bedroom.
Trying to find a compromise to keep the heating bill reasonable.
Last winter we tried putting a space heater in the basement to keep the tent warm enough for a shiitake culture I was running. It didn't work and wasn't cheap. 
What kind of tent weβre you using? Couldnβt have been a good one with the aluminum sidings if it was jacking up your electric bill. I also run my space heater on a heat timer, on the lowest possible setting. Didnβt notice any difference in the electric bill.
Decent grow tents are super cheap on Amazon, if you have access to that. Iβve also got them brand new for even cheaper on FB marketplace. I have 3 6βx6βx7β lol. Think I payed like $120 for a piece for 2 of them off Amazon and then $50 for the other from FB
Edited by SupaThaRipper (11/05/23 06:28 AM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#28530182 - 11/05/23 08:47 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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SupaThaRipper said:
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tree frog said: My girlfriend doesn't like to run the heat much at night and it's a poorly insulated back bedroom.
Trying to find a compromise to keep the heating bill reasonable.
Last winter we tried putting a space heater in the basement to keep the tent warm enough for a shiitake culture I was running. It didn't work and wasn't cheap. 
What kind of tent weβre you using? Couldnβt have been a good one with the aluminum sidings if it was jacking up your electric bill. I also run my space heater on a heat timer, on the lowest possible setting. Didnβt notice any difference in the electric bill.
Decent grow tents are super cheap on Amazon, if you have access to that. Iβve also got them brand new for even cheaper on FB marketplace. I have 3 6βx6βx7β lol. Think I payed like $120 for a piece for 2 of them off Amazon and then $50 for the other from FB
If you only heat the tent and not the room, it's hard to deal with the amount of condensation that will occur on the inside of the tent.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet] 6
#28530228 - 11/05/23 09:06 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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@babayaga Didnt weigh the tray I printed, but the jcm Texas Titans gave a little over 111g first flush wet. Of course my phone photo picked up no digits on the scale haha.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: sleepydave]
#28530244 - 11/05/23 09:13 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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By curisoty, how much air pump did you use in your JCM and what the GPH of the pump ?
Thanks
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Cosmikktraveler said: By curisoty, how much air pump did you use in your JCM and what the GPH of the pump ?
Thanks
I use a single 475gph pump with a 4 way splitter into, 4-16" long airstones. Pretty sure my issue is stagnation related, but not 100% at the moment.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean]
#28530295 - 11/05/23 09:40 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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TheAtlantean said: Got some Nec-D primordia incoming, looks like.
I really hope these guys help me and my depression.
Got a wild hair up my ass a couple weeks ago after my failed attempts to spawn TTBVI and AUSSIEs. and just tossed a jar of Nec D in the remained LMP Coir I made (Thanks Baba)
And⦠welp. Here we are.

Anyone who has done this lazy manβs bucket, and would be willing to chime in, Iβd love some advice as to how to achieve the best flush considering.
I am mainly looking to get clone tissue out of these.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean]
#28530299 - 11/05/23 09:43 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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I will be building a Martha to achieve the ideal environment for the trays Iβll be doing. But just curious.
Not really sure if I should mist or if I should just leave it alone.
Who was it that was recently showing off their buckets?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet] 3
#28530301 - 11/05/23 09:43 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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ruawakeyet said: If you only heat the tent and not the room, it's hard to deal with the amount of condensation that will occur on the inside of the tent.
If youβre running a humidifier for anything, then yes, but I do have timed exhaust running directly out the window. Only a half hour every 3 hours I believe. Still cheap


@the Atlantean, if you have your Martha dialed in correctly, you wonβt have to do any misting at all. Also, once youβre building a Martha, you can order dog crate pans off of Amazon for the perfect water catch pan. I have a hole drilled in the bottom of mine with a shoebox underneath it to catch water run off. Works amazing. Check out my TTBVI grow log if youβre curious. Have a little more information on there
Edited by SupaThaRipper (11/05/23 09:49 AM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper] 1
#28530376 - 11/05/23 10:14 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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For sure.
Your design is what I will be working towards.
Martha will be completed this coming week.
But I have pins starting in this bucket.
They are thin and tiny.
First time ever growing pans so Iβm a bit precautious.
I know it will depend heavily on the culture, and evaporation factor. So, I think this one is gonna be a crap shoot no matter what.
I think my main goal is to get Tissue culture. Especially if these fruit in such unfavorable conditions it makes me wonder what they will do when put in a proper mono.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 2
#28530388 - 11/05/23 10:19 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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Yeah my first one was a little off lol. It took like 2-3 weeks to get it dialed in correctly! Lol but now itβs set and forget, minus filling the humidifier and dumping the catch bin. Between grows. I spray the tent down with bleach and rinse it out where it sits. No tear down and setup
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: sleepydave]
#28530561 - 11/05/23 12:28 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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sleepydave said: @babayaga Didnt weigh the tray I printed, but the jcm Texas Titans gave a little over 111g first flush wet. Of course my phone photo picked up no digits on the scale haha.


Thanks man, this helps. For a good grow I get 200-250 g wet first flush from one quart (2/3 filled) and for average 150-200 g. I mean wet is kinda silly to compare but it's easy and does show a tendency. I will try experimenting with low spawn ratios like 1:10 or 1:12 and see if 1st flush yields a still in the same range.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 3
#28530570 - 11/05/23 12:36 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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One day later the few knots in the RDU tub turned into a lot of knots 7 days after spawn and I will mist for the first time tonight. There has not been a single water droplet on the surface so far.

I can only recommend to fruit at spawn without misting but giving a lot of FAE. I mean this can still turn out to be a weak grow but so far I had great success with it many times in the past and this tub seems to be right on track.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 7
#28530632 - 11/05/23 01:26 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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First Pan Pins ever. Nec D. 
They are growing pretty fast it seems and Iβm really excited to try this species out.
Iβve been trying to find the thread that contains the origin story of Nec D, if any one can link it that would be awesome.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 5
#28530640 - 11/05/23 01:31 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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At last... I can rejoin this thread.
First thanks to Baba Yaga for suggesting an alternative source for Pan Cyan spores. It worked out.
Bispo T1

TTBVI - T1's


And this week the Pan Jam finally germinated. Blue is water agar.


The non-blue plates are 1 % LME with nutritional yeast. Looks much better than the previous culture that I had and the growth speed is more-or-less right.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Genome794]
#28530684 - 11/05/23 02:14 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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Fuck Yeah, was about time for things to work out. I'm happy for you Genome.
Looking good!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 2
#28530704 - 11/05/23 02:28 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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TheAtlantean said:

First Pan Pins ever. Nec D. 
They are growing pretty fast it seems and Iβm really excited to try this species out.
Iβve been trying to find the thread that contains the origin story of Nec D, if any one can link it that would be awesome.

Jakeoncid419 created those and they are hybrid (confirmed I think) between Pan Cyan Jalisco and Pan Tropicalis Austalia. There is not a specific thread about them AFAIK. He called them Nec Divinos at the beginning.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26602521#26602521
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26604374#26604374
Forgot to add: Congrats on the pins!
Edited by Baba Yaga (11/05/23 02:38 PM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28530816 - 11/05/23 04:00 PM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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Thanks baba.
Iβm looking forward to getting to know the genus
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