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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: BirdsOnTrees]
    #28301275 - 04/30/23 03:36 PM (8 months, 26 days ago)

They grow too thick on normal 2% LMEA from my experience so maybe lower nutritional content? Supposedly transfers past t2 are pointless and it's more about snagging the right myc from germination? Just what I have read. If I'm wrong please lmk.

It's really perplexing. If I transfer some stalled myc it will begin growing normally on the new plate for a little before stalling again. I shot MSS into pf tek cakes and they've colonized no problem. If I try placing some pf tek myc to agar it will grow well at first then stall out too. I feel like there's something fundamental I'm messing up or just not understanding because it doesn't make sense to me.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28301432 - 04/30/23 05:59 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

AspectOfTheCreator what is the agar recipe you use?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
    #28301441 - 04/30/23 06:07 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

1 g LME and 1.4 g telephone agar per 100 mL distilled water. Was using 2 g telephone agar previously and had the same issues. Only difference is spores actually germinate and contam shows up better with 1.4 g telephone agar so I've stuck with that amount.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28301503 - 04/30/23 07:04 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

hmm not sure - it seems plenty of people here have had success with that recipe, and I don't have whole lot of experience but I did use JakeOncid's recipe with good success:

1000ml distilled water  (1000g)
8g malt extract
.5g peptone
.3g yeast
18g agar
4g potato starch


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
    #28301511 - 04/30/23 07:19 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

Is it normal for entire fruits to turn smurf blue?  The pic below is after harvesting bigger fruits and I'm sure bumping into the smaller ones along the way, but... I guess my main concern, is wondering if the all blue fruits are indicative of anything gone seriously wrong?  Can I safely pick them and collect with the non-blue fruits for consumption?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
    #28301591 - 04/30/23 08:30 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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Is it normal for entire fruits to turn smurf blue?  The pic below is after harvesting bigger fruits and I'm sure bumping into the smaller ones along the way, but... I guess my main concern, is wondering if the all blue fruits are indicative of anything gone seriously wrong?  Can I safely pick them and collect with the non-blue fruits for consumption?




Yeah they’re just bruising and aborting, totally fine to eat!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
    #28301604 - 04/30/23 08:48 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

I wrap my petris in glad wrap. I'm considering that maybe that's choking them out. Can't think of anything else.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28301678 - 04/30/23 10:16 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

I tried searching but never found a consensus on rye berries vs oats for pans.  Anyone?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Auron]
    #28301692 - 04/30/23 10:50 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

I've used both. I would recommend rye. I've had better / more consistent results with the rye. Nothing wrong with oats, but they are harder (in my opinion) to get just right.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] * 1
    #28301707 - 04/30/23 11:24 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

Ok ...... Just a couple pictures. Hopefully they load up ok. Couple small containers and an agar jar.
The myc on the agar looks pretty good from streaking the fuzz from the tray. I'll probably transfer from this agar to a couple others and then put it to grain. Fingers crossed! Hurry up and wait. My temps are between 72-80F.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Auron] * 1
    #28301719 - 05/01/23 12:14 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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I tried searching but never found a consensus on rye berries vs oats for pans.  Anyone?




Any grains seem to work, whichever you prep the best. :smile:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
    #28301743 - 05/01/23 01:36 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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Is it normal for entire fruits to turn smurf blue?  The pic below is after harvesting bigger fruits and I'm sure bumping into the smaller ones along the way, but... I guess my main concern, is wondering if the all blue fruits are indicative of anything gone seriously wrong?  Can I safely pick them and collect with the non-blue fruits for consumption?






to wet i would say and not enuff FAE


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Sally_D] * 5
    #28301778 - 05/01/23 03:52 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

Alright, made some bisporus spawn. Now we wait :strokebeard:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer]
    #28301816 - 05/01/23 05:12 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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I tried searching but never found a consensus on rye berries vs oats for pans.  Anyone?




Any grains seem to work, whichever you prep the best. :smile:




Thank you, how soft do you like to get them?  I've been making it so they have form but smash between my fingers. Still haven't had success, so I'm not sure.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28301872 - 05/01/23 06:55 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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I wrap my petris in glad wrap. I'm considering that maybe that's choking them out. Can't think of anything else.




I actually stopped wrapping my plates and started seeing much more vigorous growth on agar, especially with my pans, I didn't put these two things together but looking at my collection it's super obvious.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: BirdsOnTrees]
    #28301878 - 05/01/23 07:09 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

Will my setup work?



I will use things I already got, old tub, a small table fan and room humifier and old aquarium heater.

I also not have much space inside my apartment so I will jut put it in a corner.

Hopefully BVI doesnt mind and its strong. Looking very good on grains now. I think I can spawn soon.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Sally_D]
    #28301881 - 05/01/23 07:15 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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Is it normal for entire fruits to turn smurf blue?  The pic below is after harvesting bigger fruits and I'm sure bumping into the smaller ones along the way, but... I guess my main concern, is wondering if the all blue fruits are indicative of anything gone seriously wrong?  Can I safely pick them and collect with the non-blue fruits for consumption?





to wet i would say and not enuff FAE




Too wet, I could buy into, but in same martha I have another tray where all the big fruits are loving it and show signs of being too dry if I dial back the humidification.  Big NO to the lack of FAE though.  170 seconds of intake and exhaust fan moving a LOT of air from hepa that draws air from outside the room and exhausts completely outside the room, 8 minutes rest, repeat.  I'm guessing 2x volume of martha every 11 minutes.  I'll be getting more than 400 gram wet / 32g dry per quart of spawn, and this was multispore not clone, so if growing conditions are off it can't be horrible.  Main concern that blue guys are safe to eat :smile:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: BirdsOnTrees]
    #28301940 - 05/01/23 08:20 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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I wrap my petris in glad wrap. I'm considering that maybe that's choking them out. Can't think of anything else.




I actually stopped wrapping my plates and started seeing much more vigorous growth on agar, especially with my pans, I didn't put these two things together but looking at my collection it's super obvious.




Seems so risky to not wrap up plates.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
    #28301944 - 05/01/23 08:27 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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Alright, made some bisporus spawn. Now we wait :strokebeard:






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esotericbound said:
Is it normal for entire fruits to turn smurf blue?  The pic below is after harvesting bigger fruits and I'm sure bumping into the smaller ones along the way, but... I guess my main concern, is wondering if the all blue fruits are indicative of anything gone seriously wrong?  Can I safely pick them and collect with the non-blue fruits for consumption?





to wet i would say and not enuff FAE




Too wet, I could buy into, but in same martha I have another tray where all the big fruits are loving it and show signs of being too dry if I dial back the humidification.  Big NO to the lack of FAE though.  170 seconds of intake and exhaust fan moving a LOT of air from hepa that draws air from outside the room and exhausts completely outside the room, 8 minutes rest, repeat.  I'm guessing 2x volume of martha every 11 minutes.  I'll be getting more than 400 gram wet / 32g dry per quart of spawn, and this was multispore not clone, so if growing conditions are off it can't be horrible.  Main concern that blue guys are safe to eat :smile:





no concern for eating it .. not sure what will u do with 32gram of those power horses. i seen people taking 1gr and they will never touch it again. thats how powerful they are.  are you making prints and sharing them? thats a good way to get some karma going. I will do this as soon as  BVI fruits will show up.
Hopefully my setup is spot on and all goes well. Create natures conditions as best as possible. IMO an open space with free flowing air the best.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Auron]
    #28302007 - 05/01/23 09:28 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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Thank you, how soft do you like to get them?  I've been making it so they have form but smash between my fingers. Still haven't had success, so I'm not sure.




I use low prep, it is a huge time saver for me. The grains come out with different hydration levels in the jars but the mycelium doesn't seem to care.


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