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OfflineFred_feuerstein69
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psilocybist]
    #28273895 - 04/12/23 04:33 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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I'm close to finishing writing a post on somewhat general info and must-know things about antibiotics.
Will put a link here and in my signature soon. Hope it helps many so no one makes my mistakes again.
And it hopefully will encourage others to experiment with new methods.





I would stay away from any antibiotics... let nature decide what lives and what not.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fred_feuerstein69] * 1
    #28273927 - 04/12/23 05:27 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Sandose jar - 3/28


Aus jar - 3/28



Ain't got much of an eye for pan myc yet, but I'm pretty confident this attempt. Took the cultures from MS along 3 transfers. That was going from some standard 20g agar to water agar and back to regular agar. These jars were shook once 7-8 days after inoculation, great recovery. House is being kept at 70°F on thermostat and everything's liking it.

Mixed up some half strength agar specifically for pans. Dropped these wedges and still continued to transfer out original plates in the meantime.

Pasteurized some sifted compost and straw in a 145°F water bath for 8hrs yesterday. Bucket tek'd coir/verm/CaCO3. Everythings got time to sit for a few days.

I'll pasteurized the casing mix of peat/verm/calcium hydroxide after I spawn it. Its moving fast, I suspect in a week or less.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Gorguss]
    #28273932 - 04/12/23 05:32 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

I got germination on the 4 Pan varieties Baba Yaga was so generous to send me... getting ready to try my hand at Pans again... my experimental tubs tanked, I used questionable spawn I had sitting for a couple weeks for them... so next time I won't use any spawn I'm not confident about


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Leftfield420]
    #28273936 - 04/12/23 05:38 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

We'll get there, not through skill, but sheer determination! lol


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Gorguss]
    #28273939 - 04/12/23 05:41 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

just a learning curve


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Leftfield420]
    #28273941 - 04/12/23 05:41 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

It truly is


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Gorguss]
    #28273963 - 04/12/23 06:10 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Gorguss said:
Sandose jar - 3/28


Aus jar - 3/28



Ain't got much of an eye for pan myc yet, but I'm pretty confident this attempt. Took the cultures from MS along 3 transfers. That was going from some standard 20g agar to water agar and back to regular agar. These jars were shook once 7-8 days after inoculation, great recovery. House is being kept at 70°F on thermostat and everything's liking it.

Mixed up some half strength agar specifically for pans. Dropped these wedges and still continued to transfer out original plates in the meantime.

Pasteurized some sifted compost and straw in a 145°F water bath for 8hrs yesterday. Bucket tek'd coir/verm/CaCO3. Everythings got time to sit for a few days.

I'll pasteurized the casing mix of peat/verm/calcium hydroxide after I spawn it. Its moving fast, I suspect in a week or less.




looking good, how do you plan to fruit them? Tub or tent?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fred_feuerstein69]
    #28273965 - 04/12/23 06:13 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

I got one unmodded 27L tub and the other going to try 2 unmodded shoeboxes depending on the depth


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #28273985 - 04/12/23 06:32 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Was just popping by not stopped in for aaaaaages... thinking of getting some things together again.

Sad times to read about JCM, hope all is good there, lost my bro ten years ago sucks big time.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Gorguss]
    #28274083 - 04/12/23 07:53 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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I got one unmodded 27L tub and the other going to try 2 unmodded shoeboxes depending on the depth




is this your first try with pans? did u try cubes in unmod tubs before?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 1
    #28274139 - 04/12/23 08:56 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Hell yeah buddy! This is like music to my eyes, I love to see Bisporus being done outdoors! Can't wait to spread mine! Did you also mix any other sub with it or did you just bury the colonized stuff you had?




Thanks Adas! This box I didn’t mix anything with it. The forest top soil/humus is really rich and they seem to be loving it. I have some gourmet block and chicken manure compost almost finished up so I might add some later on or in new spots I make and see if it makes a difference.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Southerner] * 12
    #28274744 - 04/12/23 04:49 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Haven’t done some bisporus in a minute, but back in with a couple tubs. One is being partially harvested today the other yet to pin. Pretty happy with this tub though, some of the best coverage I’ve gotten to date, granted I wish there was more even maturation, would’ve been a very nice looking photo if they all matured at the same time. I also went a bit heavy on the mist one day and some caps got some bacterial rot shit on em, only a couple though and fixing the mistake has saved the rest of them. Alas I can’t be too bummed all things considered, I will keep shooting for the full mature spread! Unmodded tub as always.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] * 1
    #28274786 - 04/12/23 05:27 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Good god man, you’re killing it!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng]
    #28275022 - 04/12/23 08:37 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Haven’t done some bisporus in a minute, but back in with a couple tubs. One is being partially harvested today the other yet to pin. Pretty happy with this tub though, some of the best coverage I’ve gotten to date, granted I wish there was more even maturation, would’ve been a very nice looking photo if they all matured at the same time. I also went a bit heavy on the mist one day and some caps got some bacterial rot shit on em, only a couple though and fixing the mistake has saved the rest of them. Alas I can’t be too bummed all things considered, I will keep shooting for the full mature spread! Unmodded tub as always.





Genetics came from a clone on a previous unmod tub grow?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] * 2
    #28275139 - 04/12/23 10:15 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

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kirkeng said:
Haven’t done some bisporus in a minute, but back in with a couple tubs. One is being partially harvested today the other yet to pin. Pretty happy with this tub though, some of the best coverage I’ve gotten to date, granted I wish there was more even maturation, would’ve been a very nice looking photo if they all matured at the same time. I also went a bit heavy on the mist one day and some caps got some bacterial rot shit on em, only a couple though and fixing the mistake has saved the rest of them. Alas I can’t be too bummed all things considered, I will keep shooting for the full mature spread! Unmodded tub as always.






Very nice man :loveeyes:

Do you see a reason why they matured more on one end? I notice that tubs can get uneven FAE depending on where they are sitting in the room like one side drying out first and such. I try to remember turning the stacks of tubs by 180o every day to even this out as much as possible, especially when they are sitting right in a corner.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28275154 - 04/12/23 10:24 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

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kirkeng said:
Haven’t done some bisporus in a minute, but back in with a couple tubs. One is being partially harvested today the other yet to pin. Pretty happy with this tub though, some of the best coverage I’ve gotten to date, granted I wish there was more even maturation, would’ve been a very nice looking photo if they all matured at the same time. I also went a bit heavy on the mist one day and some caps got some bacterial rot shit on em, only a couple though and fixing the mistake has saved the rest of them. Alas I can’t be too bummed all things considered, I will keep shooting for the full mature spread! Unmodded tub as always.






Very nice man :loveeyes:

Do you see a reason why they matured more on one end? I notice that tubs can get uneven FAE depending on where they are sitting in the room like one side drying out first and such. I try to remember turning the stacks of tubs by 180o every day to even this out as much as possible, especially when they are sitting right in a corner.




I have similar thoughts. The placement of the tub is crucial. Need a place in room where a passive airflow happens. Most people dont understand this. they throw the tub in a corner and hope for the best. If no O2 goes in and co2 goes out no pans will grow.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fred_feuerstein69] * 1
    #28275157 - 04/12/23 10:26 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

They do just fine in a corner.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28275161 - 04/12/23 10:31 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

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They do just fine in a corner.





In a corner with zero airflow? I doubt that very much. It gives the wrong impression for many beginners and its the reason more than 90% will fail and have failed with this tek.  And thats a fact.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fred_feuerstein69]
    #28275216 - 04/12/23 11:42 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

@Gorguss, and anyone interested in antibiotics and their usage here, I've compiled a post in my journal.
Link's at my signature.

Open to questions/suggestions/objection.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psilocybist]
    #28275240 - 04/13/23 12:34 AM (9 months, 12 days ago)

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psilocybist said:
@Gorguss, and anyone interested in antibiotics and their usage here, I've compiled a post in my journal.
Link's at my signature.

Open to questions/suggestions/objection.




You suggest not to use vermiculite but 99% of growers do.
I would also stay away from any chemical or antibiotic use in mycology.

Do you have anything to report regarding pan cyans?


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