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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28247775 - 03/26/23 02:38 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Thanks baba thats what I needed to know and yes these were for science
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Murphy07]
#28247845 - 03/26/23 03:27 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Is the Gordotek for pans still good? Say some bad things about it including using aluminum.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Auron] 2
#28247948 - 03/26/23 04:35 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Auron said: Is the Gordotek for pans still good? Say some bad things about it including using aluminum.
I would ditch the aluminum for plastic, but I've seen a lot of great looking pictures of grows using GordoTek. My method uses a little bit of GordoTek and JOC Tek combined with my own twist. Essentially, I do it all in a grow tent, and use repeat cycle timers to be able to make any cycle duration I want/need.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Auron] 2
#28247955 - 03/26/23 04:39 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Yeah don't know about aluminum pans, I personally wouldn't use them. Apart from that I have seen results with that tek so might be as good of a starting point as anything else. Chances to fuck it up or not at the beginning are equally distributed across all the teks.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28248147 - 03/26/23 06:41 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I’m not familiar with the issues using aluminum with pans. Is it that the pan myc eats it like cube myc does or does it affect growth or fruiting in some way?
I was in a hurry recently and instead of cutting a black last one liner I used aluminum foil as a liner.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] 1
#28248227 - 03/26/23 07:35 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I read mycelium eats aluminum but have no idea
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] 2
#28248234 - 03/26/23 07:38 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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As far as I know mushrooms don't eat the aluminum as such but excrete metabolites that can dissolve the aluminum and it is not ending up in the fruit bodies. Read something about it long time ago on here with an edible. I still don't like using it, don't like cooking meals in it either. And the trays are single use only so not really my jam.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28248662 - 03/27/23 01:17 AM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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Yeah I’ve only noticed little holes in the aluminum after the run. I sometimes use sheets of aluminum foil as a liner I stress of black plastic. I figure it’s actually better than plastic for the environment. Despite this, I tend to use black plastic most of the time. It bothers me how much plastic waste I generate with this hobby 😬
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#28248796 - 03/27/23 06:11 AM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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If by any extend mycelium can "eat" aluminum, it won't be visible to naked eye. It's a slow molecular degradation/absorption. Not like how a mouse would eat a piece of bread. and there's a good chance it will end up in friutbodies. Combining mycelium and dangerous metals is not a good idea, though very common in cultivation procedures. Read the link in my sig if you like to know what I think.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Auron]
#28248991 - 03/27/23 09:28 AM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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Auron said: Is the Gordotek for pans still good? Say some bad things about it including using aluminum.
Best beginner tek for pan estero strain , seen many beginners getting full canopy on first try when open bathtub tek is followed like shown in video.
Also his cheap martha version tek for other pan cyans show good results from people who just started growing.
https://ibb.co/yfs1hGM https://ibb.co/YkYG0nk https://ibb.co/10D9pgf https://ibb.co/LSNnjGn https://ibb.co/VWzDxBn https://ibb.co/TBS39sN https://ibb.co/VTBpBdK https://ibb.co/Ks42nJj
not sure why they dont like him here much, the work he is doing with pan cyans is next to none.
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There's something I don't get about the Martha tent.
When the humidistat kicks back on, most of the humidifiers sold today don't have an auto-on feature. So what good is a humidistat? Why not just control the humidity with the fan pressure?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Auron] 1
#28249584 - 03/27/23 04:32 PM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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I don't have any problems with Gordo. I appreciate all the differences and similarities between all the different growers sharing their methods. I've read everything I could find regarding growing Pans, and I think I've taken a little bit from all of them!
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Auron said: There's something I don't get about the Martha tent.
When the humidistat kicks back on, most of the humidifiers sold today don't have an auto-on feature. So what good is a humidistat? Why not just control the humidity with the fan pressure?
It is important to use the right kind of humidifier. It must have analog controls, or one must use a fogger disc, (sometimes multiple discs). I'm using a single disc ultrasonic fogger from House of Hydro, in a DIY setup. (It's almost done, pictures are coming soon!)
I also strongly recommend using repeat cycle timers instead of humidity controllers. IMO, that is the best way to automate a setup, and it allows one to control the fog / evap cycle to whatever it needs to be for your conditions.
That all is of course if you want an automated setup. Plenty of growers are having great success without automation.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Gorguss] 4
#28249846 - 03/27/23 07:16 PM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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Gorguss said: Black Kow counts as manure/compost right? just properly pasteurize it?
Ive posted this before but since wear talking about aluminum pans and store bought manure
So I am running pans out of my Martha, but I could never get the humidity Just perfect ,because if you get water droplets on the mushrooms, they abort, and if they dry too much, they won’t get past the pinning stage.
So i use the square aluminum pans for the substrate, and then I use a wider rectangle to keep excess water from them, but to keep them constantly and a high humidity Below is what I have my timer set for the humidifier


You can see the evaporation pattern circled in red, but you can also see how moisture the air is as condensation on the lid This is the progress of the latest two containers I’ve started

UPDATE 1/14/2023 Walmart didnt have anymore of the square pans I used last time, so I used ones that were more rectangle. Problem being is the lids I put on top, didn’t supply the proper amount of fresh air for them to grow properly, so I grew them without the lids. ….Big mistake as you can see from the photos below. The mushrooms seemed to rot off at the base of the stem, and so many of the pins aborted I ended up tossing all six trays in the rubbish bin

Im using this poo
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 99.99]
#28249920 - 03/27/23 08:10 PM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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Thanks, good info 🍄
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jano]
#28250823 - 03/28/23 10:33 AM (9 months, 28 days ago) |
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Jano said: Added a couple more air pumps and stones to my FC for its second run and this tray ended up pretty decent looking, I think.


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99.99 said: You can see the evaporation pattern circled in red, but you can also see how moisture the air is as condensation on the lid This is the progress of the latest two containers I’ve started

Beautiful!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheDoobsker] 9
#28252483 - 03/29/23 05:51 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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Second flush came in nicely as well
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jano]
#28252510 - 03/29/23 06:40 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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So i put my grains to sub yesterday all looks well, colonization is coming along nicely but one pan looks Hella dry, no condensation on the lid or anything. Would you guys recommend potentially lifting off the cover snd misting just the cover sbd putting it back on? All the other pans you can barely see in the lid bc it's so much condensation.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Murphy07] 1
#28252708 - 03/29/23 09:19 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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Pics
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet]
#28252756 - 03/29/23 10:04 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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I’d like to try Asura’s method of growing pans, but instead of inoculating with liquid culture, using agar wedges.
Has anyone tried this? If not, is that because it’s a silly idea?
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Well I was in a rush so this is multispore (well about T3 but not properly refined) and my in-laws have more or less taken over the area where I’d have a proper fruiting chamber… nonetheless, I’m feeling hopeful about this Pan Cam Komodo tub I cased last night. I would be so jazzed to see those wavy cap phenos that Jake grew popping up in this tub:

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