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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28221733 - 03/09/23 02:43 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Baba Yaga said: You add the startrex before pasteurization? Will the added bacteria survive or is it for the fulvic acid?
Before. But it is a good idea to add after and compare. In a week will see the size and density of the fruits for the current approach.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ekabpils]
#28221871 - 03/09/23 07:29 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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I am planning on spawning pan cambo on grains to hpoo/coir. What ratio of hpoo to coir should I use?
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Differences between Pan Cyan Peace River, Pan Cambodginiensis Jamaica, Pan Cyan Jalisco Mexico?
 Picture shows plates 7 days after transfer.
On agar, the Peace River seems to be thriving the most for me; PC Jamaica looks healthy but slower; and after numerous attempts the the Jalisco always looks funny and usually has some kind of contam - the right plate in foreground is best one yet but... idk, that contam seems to be sneaky.
Between the three, is there any notable difference in ease of growing, yields, potency/vibe etc? I was planning on trying all 3 with rye grain->coir/manure (with a little bit of straw in it), should these be happy with that combo?
I've about given up on the Jaliscos but if they have some special, desirable characteristics I will keep trying....
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
#28222148 - 03/09/23 12:00 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Hey guys, this is my second run at pan cyan. Specifically estero and ttbvi, went from print>agar>rye. What are you guys thoughts on how these look? Already did a break and shake about a week ago. I did have one jar not recover and another that has potential lipstick idfk for sure its just a red tint in the jar which I can provide a pic of if you wanted. I guess I'm worried the myc is struggling but my past experience with cubes which I know aren't as subject to contams as PC but other opinions from other growers helps. These are the estero jars after break and shake. The TTBVI jars I'm not as worried about since I just knocked up the jars on Sunday but the myc looks good and healthy and is growing everyday.thanks for reading friends
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Murphy07]
#28222153 - 03/09/23 12:06 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Baba Yaga
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AspectOfTheCreator said: I am planning on spawning pan cambo on grains to hpoo/coir. What ratio of hpoo to coir should I use?
25-50% has worked well for me, how much you can put in depends on the texture of your manure. If you prepare it with great care and the moisture content is on point then you can go higher. It really doesn't need that much manure though so go with 25% to start with and see how your substrate texture turns out. You want it evenly mixed and aerated and not soggy/too wet. Experiment once you got more comfortable with the material.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
#28222179 - 03/09/23 12:29 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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esotericbound said: Differences between Pan Cyan Peace River, Pan Cambodginiensis Jamaica, Pan Cyan Jalisco Mexico?
 Picture shows plates 7 days after transfer.
On agar, the Peace River seems to be thriving the most for me; PC Jamaica looks healthy but slower; and after numerous attempts the the Jalisco always looks funny and usually has some kind of contam - the right plate in foreground is best one yet but... idk, that contam seems to be sneaky.
Between the three, is there any notable difference in ease of growing, yields, potency/vibe etc? I was planning on trying all 3 with rye grain->coir/manure (with a little bit of straw in it), should these be happy with that combo?
I've about given up on the Jaliscos but if they have some special, desirable characteristics I will keep trying....
Your substrate choice sounds good as long as it all get pasteurized.
Could you please take closeup top view pictures of each of the three plates, I am interested seeing the Jalisco compared to the others. The photo above doesn't show much detail.
I'd say they all the pans have similar properties experience wise.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Murphy07]
#28222183 - 03/09/23 12:37 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Murphy07 said: Hey guys, this is my second run at pan cyan. Specifically estero and ttbvi, went from print>agar>rye. What are you guys thoughts on how these look? Already did a break and shake about a week ago. I did have one jar not recover and another that has potential lipstick idfk for sure its just a red tint in the jar which I can provide a pic of if you wanted. I guess I'm worried the myc is struggling but my past experience with cubes which I know aren't as subject to contams as PC but other opinions from other growers helps. These are the estero jars after break and shake. The TTBVI jars I'm not as worried about since I just knocked up the jars on Sunday but the myc looks good and healthy and is growing everyday.thanks for reading friends

A closeup photo of each individual jar would be helpful but from what I can see from here is that I don't like the dense growth in the first 3 jars, also uncolonized kernels, the last one looks better.
What do your agar plates look like?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28222205 - 03/09/23 12:56 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Ok I'll provide close ups when I get back home. The agar plates looked ok.I believe I made a single transfer but I forgot to add, the estero was a swab and it was my first time using a swab. But there wasn't any contams on the plates I cut from. I believe i still have an estero plate I didn't put to grain I can send that as well. I'll also add the ttbvi was a spore print and I did use one of the transfer plates to put to grain other than that all original plates were used.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Murphy07] 1
#28222211 - 03/09/23 01:00 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Murphy07 said: ....other than that all original plates were used.
You mean the germination plates by that?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28222235 - 03/09/23 01:19 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Yes that's correct.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Murphy07] 1
#28222253 - 03/09/23 01:32 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Always taking at least one transfer away from germ plate or chances for things to go sour are very high. People often proceed with their T1 cultures to get to fruits to clone fast but I wouldn't recommend this for beginners. Make sure to not waste you work up until here and do two to three transfers or as much as it takes before going to grain. You can fast track things once you get more comfortable.
If you get fruits then start cloning right away by taking tissue samples to water agar or PF/BRF pucks.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: esotericbound]
#28222256 - 03/09/23 01:36 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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esotericbound said: Differences between Pan Cyan Peace River, Pan Cambodginiensis Jamaica, Pan Cyan Jalisco Mexico?
 Picture shows plates 7 days after transfer.
On agar, the Peace River seems to be thriving the most for me; PC Jamaica looks healthy but slower; and after numerous attempts the the Jalisco always looks funny and usually has some kind of contam - the right plate in foreground is best one yet but... idk, that contam seems to be sneaky.
Between the three, is there any notable difference in ease of growing, yields, potency/vibe etc? I was planning on trying all 3 with rye grain->coir/manure (with a little bit of straw in it), should these be happy with that combo?
I've about given up on the Jaliscos but if they have some special, desirable characteristics I will keep trying....
I can say that Cyan and Bisporus are different. Cyans is VERY energetic and forceful, but not in a bad way. Bisporus makes your body vibrate at a high frequency which is very nice and reassuring. The trip is much calmer than Cyans and the visuals are similar, but possibly even better. I've had an experience similar to reliving my own birth on Bisporus. Not quite, but the closest I've ever been on any drug. Bisporus also tends to give amazing afterglows unlike anything else,
I highly suggest you to try both.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28222431 - 03/09/23 03:04 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Murphy07] 1
#28222460 - 03/09/23 03:15 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Doesn't look good overall and the fact that you used germination plates to noc is a vote towards toss and start over. Maybe spawn the best looking one just to try it and see for yourself.
Did you give them a shake at all and if yes what was the %age of colonization just before the last shake.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: the_prodigy] 6
#28222474 - 03/09/23 03:19 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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A little picture update to my last post about pin city
These are almost ready for harvest, it's so many of them it will take me couple of hours to harvest these 4 trays.
I know this is a while back but i had to say congrats on this incredible first harvest, prodigy. really living up to that username haha
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2nd flush of these Jambos turned out nice. Closest I've gotten to a panopy 
    
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheDoobsker]
#28222483 - 03/09/23 03:21 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Yeah man noice!
The caps are looking better as well, you kept this flush a bit dryer or did it sort itself out?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28222504 - 03/09/23 03:32 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Bummer dude, um I'd say about 25% is before the shake. My thinking was man, these aren't colonizing as quick as they did on the agar I wonder if something is wrong I'm not seeing. So I gave them a shake a few days ago and this is where we are. All the work was done in front of a flow hood, however I'll add it was my first time using said flow hood so my sterilization may not have been the best as far as cutting the plate up and noccing the jars I was under the assumption it was fine to leave un covered in front of the flow hood while you inoculate. I'll show you the one of the plates I decided not to cut up bc of how it looked but I do have more plates coming so I'll be taking transfers like you said and just using those plates to inoculate.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#28222514 - 03/09/23 03:38 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Baba Yaga said: Yeah man noice!
The caps are looking better as well, you kept this flush a bit dryer or did it sort itself out?
Yeah much less blotch on this flush! Nope I didn't change anything up. I'm running these in a jcm, so I feel like there isn't much I can adjust.
I was wondering if it had to do with the overlay. All of the first flushers started out burried underneath overlay where it's probably more wet. Harvesting removed most of the overlay, so the 2nd flush pins all started out with more fae
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#28222714 - 03/09/23 06:00 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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Baba Yaga said:
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esotericbound said: Differences between Pan Cyan Peace River, Pan Cambodginiensis Jamaica, Pan Cyan Jalisco Mexico?
 Picture shows plates 7 days after transfer.
On agar, the Peace River seems to be thriving the most for me; PC Jamaica looks healthy but slower; and after numerous attempts the the Jalisco always looks funny and usually has some kind of contam - the right plate in foreground is best one yet but... idk, that contam seems to be sneaky.
Between the three, is there any notable difference in ease of growing, yields, potency/vibe etc? I was planning on trying all 3 with rye grain->coir/manure (with a little bit of straw in it), should these be happy with that combo?
I've about given up on the Jaliscos but if they have some special, desirable characteristics I will keep trying....
Your substrate choice sounds good as long as it all get pasteurized.
Could you please take closeup top view pictures of each of the three plates, I am interested seeing the Jalisco compared to the others. The photo above doesn't show much detail.
I'd say they all the pans have similar properties experience wise.
As requested: Peace River  PC Jamaica  Jalisco plate 1  Jalisco plate 2
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