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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Telomere] 1
#28134559 - 01/10/23 10:36 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Telomere said: Thank you very much for your reply ruawakeyet.
Lovely looking Pans! From that pic it looks like they are in some kind of paddling pool type setup similar to Gordo tek? Sorry if I’m making an incorrect assumption - I’ve been doing a lot of research but I’m still green as hell.
So I actually came up with this setup after reading every Pan Tek I could find in addition to this entire thread, but it was inspired the most by JOC Tek and Gordo Tek. (There are so many others that deserve credit as well, too many to list! I even lurked everything Pan related on mycotopia as well.)
The up-pipe you see in the middle with the air deflector delivers the fog. The fogger system is directly below the kiddie pool, and distributes the fog in all directions. I was looking for a way to more evenly distribute the fog, but it still delivers it unevenly. The closer to the center a tray is, the more fog it gets, and vice versa. I rotated the trays 180 degrees every few days to balance them out. For my next build, I want to try a taller up-pipe and see if it helps that or not.
I need to make a write-up for my journal about how I built it. I actually have plans to build a new fruiting room using the same principle, but with a few upgrades and mods. If I get that far, I will document it along with pictures and add it to my journal.
If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask!
Edit: I have some other pictures of my first version. Check out my user gallery, and start with the oldest pictures. Later on I added pictures of some individual components, some of them might be self-explanatory. I will warn, if you order any repeat cycle timers, I don't recommend the one I have pictured. I want a couple of digital repeat cycle timers to replace the others. The ones I have pictured gave me a lot of issues trying to setup an offset cycle that was easily adjustable, and would continue to sync up throughout the day. It seemed they were always just a few seconds off from each other, and by the end of the day I would have to re-sync one of them or else one would catch up to the other. There was no fine-tuning of them, but the digital versions should be really accurate.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Imatryin]
#28134575 - 01/10/23 10:44 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Happy hump day friends and neighbors!! Trying the agar again. Bisbo this time. The knowledge sharing and the generosity in this community is great and greatly appreciated! I streaked 10 plates on the 7th..... Hurry up and wait. If I'm correct in my remembering.... but has it been said Bisbo is a bit slower? I hope you panheads are doing well and hope your tents and totes are rocking out for y'all!!! 😎✌️
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Scotay]
#28134728 - 01/11/23 12:31 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Deleted my original thread to post in here cause I figured consolidation might be better?: This is my third attempt at Pan Cyan Hawaiian. This is the farthest I've gotten in the process. I started with agar that colonized very quickly in 4 lbs of oats in a myco bag. I'm 7 days after casing, from what I've read this is roughly about the time pins should be starting. I want to make sure I'm doing everything right or if I should change anything from where I'm at.
I've been following gordotek https://www.patreon.com/posts/44645256.
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For 6 pans: -Vermiculite: fill a cake pan HALF WAY with vermiculite (approximately 1 inch depth) -Field aged horse or cow manure: fill one cake pan level to the top -300g coco coir
I used the home depot cow manure compost mix like user 99.99 uses: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28081356#28081356 and then pasteurized it. Mixed the grain spawn into this substrate mix in 6 trays to <2 inches depth. This colonized very quickly again.
I then cased it 1/4 inch each with a 30 minute PC'd mix of: -3 quarts peat moss -1 quarts vermiculte -5 TBSP calcium carbonate -1 quart water (or 1000ml)
I know gordotek is 50/50 peat/verm but I ran out of verm and apparently no store on the fucking island has any more. After 12 hours I uncovered and started my humidifier.
The casing colonized after just 2 days. From what I've read, the casing colonizing is not necessarily good or bad?:
 
4 days into casing, I realized the trays seemed very dry. Gordo recommends in his tek to tilt the trays to see how much water comes out: nothing at all. I thought the humidifier set to 95% RH running directly onto the trays would be enough misting, but apparently not. So I started misting them with a spray bottle. Now the top surface myc looks like this with a yellow/brown appearance:
Again I don't know if that's good or bad, but I've now cranked up the RH to 98-100% and it's doing better without me having to manually mist.
Here is a pic of my setup:
  I have a fan going on the opposite side. Just installed a 4ft light inside the tent. During colonization, the temp got up to 83 but it's been cooler the last few days cause of non-stop overcast. From what I've read, I might need more heat to trigger more evaporation? Maybe I can just wait for it to get warmer again outside? I live in CNMI so I'm even considering taking a couple of these trays and just putting them in the yard in a shaded area to see what happens.
Again, I'm 7 days post-casing with no pins yet. If everything seems fine then I'll keep it as is and wait. I know patience is required with this hobby, but this is the farthest I've gotten and figured if I fucked anything up, this is probably the point where it might still be recoverable. Any advice is appreciated .
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CriticalQ] 1
#28134753 - 01/11/23 01:12 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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i suggest getting rid of the humidity sensor and set your fogger on a timer schedule. something like 30-90 seconds on, 15-30 minutes off. after your fogger finshes its cycle, the entire tent should be FULL of fog. it should look like a cloud in there. and then evacuate all the air with your exhaust fan. wait 15-30 minutes and repeat the pattern. the humidity sensor is pointless because the RH will reach 100 for a brief time and then it will fall down to 70 or so during the evaporation phase. you need that cycle of high humidity followed by low humidity to get good evaporation. you don't want to just keep it a steady 95% RH.
temps should be 67-80F. 80F is not too low, it's actually on the high end. the higher your temperature, the faster the evaporation rate and the more difficult it is to balance your tent's humidity and FAE.
do you have an exhaust fan on that tent? i hope you know they need air exchange too. that brown color on your casing layer seems like a result of over misting and stagnant air.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FriedEgg]
#28134771 - 01/11/23 02:06 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Anyone grown these before? Are they standard pan sub or can I get away with a coir mix like semperviva?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FriedEgg]
#28134775 - 01/11/23 02:15 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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i suggest getting rid of the humidity sensor and set your fogger on a timer schedule. something like 30-90 seconds on, 15-30 minutes off. after your fogger finshes its cycle, the entire tent should be FULL of fog. it should look like a cloud in there. and then evacuate all the air with your exhaust fan. wait 15-30 minutes and repeat the pattern. the humidity sensor is pointless because the RH will reach 100 for a brief time and then it will fall down to 70 or so during the evaporation phase. you need that cycle of high humidity followed by low humidity to get good evaporation. you don't want to just keep it a steady 95% RH.
temps should be 67-80F. 80F is not too low, it's actually on the high end. the higher your temperature, the faster the evaporation rate and the more difficult it is to balance your tent's humidity and FAE.
do you have an exhaust fan on that tent? i hope you know they need air exchange too. that brown color on your casing layer seems like a result of over misting and stagnant air. 
I'll have to find a timer that has times as low as a minute. Smallest interval I've ever found locally is 10 minute intervals.
I don't have an exhaust fan installed in this tent yet, but I did have the window right next to the trays open for air and light. I'll install the fan asap. I need to cut a hole out of a plank for the ducting to install it in a window without filling my room with bugs... I'm assuming that's the best option vs just exhausting into the room like for a pot tent.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Imatryin]
#28134809 - 01/11/23 04:18 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Imatryin said: Is there hope for this BVI clone attempt? I pulled these from stipes. Nine additional plates were bacterial, moldy or both.

Looking ok. Just be ready to get transfers as soon as you’re certain you’ve got clean growth in case contam starts breaking out.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet]
#28134880 - 01/11/23 06:12 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Telomere said: Thank you very much for your reply ruawakeyet.
Lovely looking Pans! From that pic it looks like they are in some kind of paddling pool type setup similar to Gordo tek? Sorry if I’m making an incorrect assumption - I’ve been doing a lot of research but I’m still green as hell.
So I actually came up with this setup after reading every Pan Tek I could find in addition to this entire thread, but it was inspired the most by JOC Tek and Gordo Tek. (There are so many others that deserve credit as well, too many to list! I even lurked everything Pan related on mycotopia as well.)
The up-pipe you see in the middle with the air deflector delivers the fog. The fogger system is directly below the kiddie pool, and distributes the fog in all directions. I was looking for a way to more evenly distribute the fog, but it still delivers it unevenly. The closer to the center a tray is, the more fog it gets, and vice versa. I rotated the trays 180 degrees every few days to balance them out. For my next build, I want to try a taller up-pipe and see if it helps that or not.
I need to make a write-up for my journal about how I built it. I actually have plans to build a new fruiting room using the same principle, but with a few upgrades and mods. If I get that far, I will document it along with pictures and add it to my journal.
If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask!
Edit: I have some other pictures of my first version. Check out my user gallery, and start with the oldest pictures. Later on I added pictures of some individual components, some of them might be self-explanatory. I will warn, if you order any repeat cycle timers, I don't recommend the one I have pictured. I want a couple of digital repeat cycle timers to replace the others. The ones I have pictured gave me a lot of issues trying to setup an offset cycle that was easily adjustable, and would continue to sync up throughout the day. It seemed they were always just a few seconds off from each other, and by the end of the day I would have to re-sync one of them or else one would catch up to the other. There was no fine-tuning of them, but the digital versions should be really accurate.
That’s great advice, thanks so much dude! I had considered the paddling pool in tent for a Gordo type method but I was worried that in such a small space it might not vent well. I certainly dont have room for a nice big 4x8. I thought that it should be carried out in larger spaces so that the larger atmosphere could play its part in the drying cycle. But again, my lack of knowledge gets filled in with assumptions because I’m such a noob.
If I were to try out a grow tent it would basically be a giant JOC Martha. Mainly because I only have room for a 2x2 or 2x4. I was thinking I could have the fogger coming in from the top and then have a passive dry warm air source being pulled in by the exhaust fan. Doing this in a basement worries me a bit because of getting a steady temp. I also grow weed in my basement in a small cab and have a sort of heat “mixer” tub leading to the passive intake. It’s basically an old monotub from my first cube grow this last summer with a hole cut out one side with a low watt fan heater blowing into it and ducting leading from the tub to the passive intake in the grow cab. I did this because I couldn’t fit the heater in the cab.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: goatboy666] 4
#28134893 - 01/11/23 06:28 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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goatboy666 said: Anyone grown these before? Are they standard pan sub or can I get away with a coir mix like semperviva?

I grew them on a pretty standard hpoo/straw substrate. They are just a lot slower than Pan Cyan but also quite a bit stronger ime. Just tried the Bisporus on 2 grams last monday and it was brutal. The strongest by far of any mushrooms we've tried. The trip was no joke. One of those really heavy ones where you wish it could be over sooner. It was probably more than 6 hours in when we started to feel remotely comfortable and warm inside again.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] 1
#28134969 - 01/11/23 07:48 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Crackatoa said: I'm sure it's been asked, how's the potency with these?
I would say they are comparable to Psilocybe Mexicana in terms of potency. 1.2 dry grams was fairly strong for me. Very smooth ride. Here are some Subtrops currently fruiting from BRF cakes

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hummingbird said: Wow, Yoshi Amano sent out a sample of the subtrops he recently grew to Tryp Labs for analysis... 2.75% total alkaloids- 2.30 psilocybin 0.36 baeocystin 0.09 norbaeocystin Slightly more being in the caps than stipes. Yoshi says on his site the lineage is from Captain Future.
I know numbers aren't everything, but that's pretty impressive. Just thought I'd share that here for those who don't do the social media thing.
It would be cool to see them tested for beta carbolines too to see what shows up there, but it seems like testing methods for mushroom alkaloids isn't looking at that yet.
Interesting, that's actually less than Pans. I guess it heavily depends on the conditions and culture tho.
Hindsight the notes ive been taking across the board from other people sounds like Pans are still stronger. ive yet to try semps myself but will soon once my tray finishes fruiting to make my own opinion. On a side note from reading from your 'friends' experiences you said they felt more euphoric than edgy it sounds like they just had a more enjoyable time on Semps because they're not as intense or edgy as you stated. overall I'm going to bet pans are still going to be stronger because even a microdose will linger and go a long way. Euphoric/Enjoyable does not mean more potent. On one last note 0t0 stated something about them not lingering as long eithrr when he went to the cinema which is strange
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cambocyan] 1
#28134971 - 01/11/23 07:50 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Hindsight said: I have yet to try them but I gave some to two of my friends last summer. They took 2g each and said they were much more potent than other pans I had given them. Not as potent as semps though. I don't think semps have been tested yet.
Clampconnected posted test results for semps today.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28134988 - 01/11/23 08:03 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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I just received some semp swabs from Yoshi Amano. I’ll be tackling these before I get into Pans.
I was reading the Semp thread yesterday and came across the fresh prints grow. Mind blowing results!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Telomere]
#28135032 - 01/11/23 08:52 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Telomere said: That’s great advice, thanks so much dude! I had considered the paddling pool in tent for a Gordo type method but I was worried that in such a small space it might not vent well. I certainly dont have room for a nice big 4x8. I thought that it should be carried out in larger spaces so that the larger atmosphere could play its part in the drying cycle. But again, my lack of knowledge gets filled in with assumptions because I’m such a noob.
If I were to try out a grow tent it would basically be a giant JOC Martha. Mainly because I only have room for a 2x2 or 2x4. I was thinking I could have the fogger coming in from the top and then have a passive dry warm air source being pulled in by the exhaust fan. Doing this in a basement worries me a bit because of getting a steady temp. I also grow weed in my basement in a small cab and have a sort of heat “mixer” tub leading to the passive intake. It’s basically an old monotub from my first cube grow this last summer with a hole cut out one side with a low watt fan heater blowing into it and ducting leading from the tub to the passive intake in the grow cab. I did this because I couldn’t fit the heater in the cab.
I couldn’t figure how to view your gallery but I’ve found the smileys lol 
I should have also included how I get my evaporation in the tent, as it is extremely important. I use 2 separate repeat cycle timers. They can be ordered online. These are much different than typical appliance timers. As FriedEgg stated above, they let you create on & off cycles from seconds to minutes long.
On one cycle timer I run the fogger setup. In my setup, it ran for a few minutes. After it shut off, I gave it around 60 to 90 seconds to allow all of the fog to settle on the trays before the other cycle timer kicked on.
The other cycle timer operated a fan-forced electric heater inside the tent. I had it positioned on the bottom shelf facing the fruiting half of the tent, and it also helped keep the floor dry. (Well, dryer.) I had a temperature controller plugged into that cycle timer, and the heater plugged into the controller. I rewired the heater so the fan would run independently from the heating element, but all of that ran on that cycle timer. When it first kicked on, both the heater fan and heating element would turn on. The temp controller would turn off the heating element once it reached the desired temperature. That usually only took about a minute or two. The heater fan would continue to run until that cycle timer turned it off. You could watch the fog dissipate within the first minute of the heater coming on.
There would be a few minutes where everything was turned off to allow the air to stop moving, then the fogger would turn on again and that completed the cycle. I relied on the rise in temperature to lower the relative humidity, rather than evacuating the humid, foggy air out of the tent. The fogger supplied the fresh air exchange when it operated, and I left 3 of the screened vents in the tent open to allow the air to be pushed out. Those vents were positioned near the bottom of the tent, and it worked great to keep CO2 levels low.
There are some issues with this setup, but it wasn't with the fruits. Mainly, the heater was exposed to the really high humidity environment, and it got some rust on some of the parts. It didn't seem to work very well after I took the tent down and went back to using it in my bedroom. When I took it apart again, I found one of the wire connectors had oxidized badly, made a poor connection and got hot, and started to melt some of the wire insulation. I will need to buy a new electric heater if and when I build a new fruiting room. I might also try some different styles of heaters, or configure a way to separate the heater away from the high humidity.
I know Gordo Tek uses open-air fruiting, so if you have a room that's warm enough, (he suggests using around 70 degrees F), you might just skip the tent all together and see what happens. I would still recommend a repeat cycle timer so that you can have near infinite adjustment on your fogger.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Guerrilla]
#28135089 - 01/11/23 09:45 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Guerrilla said: I missed that. I knew what I meant 
Adas I'm literally just about to streak the CPX and Bispo you gifted me.
Hopefully I didn't leave it too long.
Should be alright. Lemme know how it goes
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq] 2
#28135097 - 01/11/23 09:53 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Tweeq said: Just tried the Bisporus on 2 grams last monday and it was brutal. The strongest by far of any mushrooms we've tried. The trip was no joke. One of those really heavy ones where you wish it could be over sooner. It was probably more than 6 hours in when we started to feel remotely comfortable and warm inside again.
Crazy mate! 2g sure sounds like a journey. I've had 1g of outdoor ones (or mostly outdoor ones) and it kicked ass. Not like my Pan Cyan 1g experiences, but it was strong. I've been planning 1.5g for next time but I may or may not chicken out.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] 5
#28135221 - 01/11/23 11:18 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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these are my first pan cyan pins.
i bit off a little more than i could chew not researching these so i am doing these in a monotub and hoping to build a martha fc in the coming weeks
surprised i got a smidgen of success my first go at it.
these are on poo god substrate with peat / verm casing.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CriticalQ] 1
#28135357 - 01/11/23 01:06 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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i suggest getting rid of the humidity sensor and set your fogger on a timer schedule. something like 30-90 seconds on, 15-30 minutes off. after your fogger finshes its cycle, the entire tent should be FULL of fog. it should look like a cloud in there. and then evacuate all the air with your exhaust fan. wait 15-30 minutes and repeat the pattern. the humidity sensor is pointless because the RH will reach 100 for a brief time and then it will fall down to 70 or so during the evaporation phase. you need that cycle of high humidity followed by low humidity to get good evaporation. you don't want to just keep it a steady 95% RH.
temps should be 67-80F. 80F is not too low, it's actually on the high end. the higher your temperature, the faster the evaporation rate and the more difficult it is to balance your tent's humidity and FAE.
do you have an exhaust fan on that tent? i hope you know they need air exchange too. that brown color on your casing layer seems like a result of over misting and stagnant air. 
I'll have to find a timer that has times as low as a minute. Smallest interval I've ever found locally is 10 minute intervals.
I don't have an exhaust fan installed in this tent yet, but I did have the window right next to the trays open for air and light. I'll install the fan asap. I need to cut a hole out of a plank for the ducting to install it in a window without filling my room with bugs... I'm assuming that's the best option vs just exhausting into the room like for a pot tent.
Thanks homie
here is a minute/second timer: https://www.amazon.com/Multifunctional-Infinite-Programmable-Appliances-Energy-Saving/dp/B01G6O28NA/
and yes get that exhaust fan on right away. you can blow the exhaust into your room for now. but it's better to blow it outside the house. if you have hard water, you'll have hard water stains from your fogger all over your walls and furniture if you blow the exhaust back inside your house.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Telomere]
#28135815 - 01/11/23 07:03 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Telomere said: Very inspiring material in here! I had “copelandias” when they were still called that in Amsterdam in the early 2000s and I have never been able to get anywhere close to that experience with cubes. Not just in regards to strength but also the “magic”.
I’m now learning how to grow and of course my ultimate goal is to get some Pans going.
Sorry if this has been covered but rather than a Martha, has anyone ever tried growing these in a regular 2x2 or 2x4 grow tent with a shelf in there? I’d like to set one up for gourmets and would be nice if I could use it to attempt Pans too.
Hey there T!! I'm somewhat of a newbie here. Just saw you're new so just wanted to say hello and good luck in joining all the panheads in the fun club!! There's a lot of really cool folks in here willing to share advice and their teks and all their success and failure. I've yet to get a full flush enough for a dose but I'm trying!! So happy Wednesday/Thursday to you and happy new year to you as well!! Peace and chicken grease!! 😎✌️
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Scotay]
#28135875 - 01/11/23 07:34 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Just checked my plates and I finally have growth!! Got a couple with the green monster and they're gone. But at least half of them look really nice. Gonna try a transfer from the 2 best ones and streak a couple more plates. My question...if the other plates look good I don't wanna just waste it. ... Can I tiger drop some of it into a couple jars of grain or am I taking a big chance of contam?? Thanks in advance friends and neighbors!! 😎✌️
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Scotay]
#28135890 - 01/11/23 07:42 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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When you ask about sending some clean-looking plates to grain, are you talking about germination plates or T1; T2; etc. plates? I don't know if I would risk a clean looking germ plate, I've wasted a lot of grain lately, and have grown quite averse to wasting more of it. If you have a clean looking T1 or above, send it!
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