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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Sillypj]
#28050349 - 11/14/22 10:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Sillypj said: Need some input..
I am running a martha tent (2X4X6 AC Infinity) with a nine head fogger setup. I have the cycles set to run every 30 minutes with a three min blast of fog overlapped by one minute with a five minute vent cycle (4" AC Inf Exhaust Fan) to bring in fresh air. The humidity average is 95% with nice peaks and valleys from the cycling. I have an LED grow light set to the dimmest setting possible. Temp average is 70 degrees. I also added a small AC Inf fan inside the top corner to keep the air moving (set to low). I am having less success than I was having from my smaller automated tub set ups using the same prep methods/materials up until fruiting. I am not running into Trich or molds, just not having decent fruiting. Could it be I am not cycling the fresh air enough? I know I am getting good circulation, I can see the fog venting out of my dryer vent setup.
Just looking for input..
The only thing that sounds off to me is the small fan inside the top corner. Is this one running constantly? The air would be still in my tent in between the fog cycles. The overlap with the exhaust fan sounds good, but I like to let the air rest when that one shuts off.
If that doesn't fix it, you might try raising the temperature in the room for a few days, see if it will help induce a better pinset. I remember JakeonCid said he used to bump the temps to around 80 until the pinset came in, then he could let the temps come back down to around 70.
Please keep us updated if anything works!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet]
#28050403 - 11/14/22 10:22 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Sillypj said: Need some input..
I am running a martha tent (2X4X6 AC Infinity) with a nine head fogger setup. I have the cycles set to run every 30 minutes with a three min blast of fog overlapped by one minute with a five minute vent cycle (4" AC Inf Exhaust Fan) to bring in fresh air. The humidity average is 95% with nice peaks and valleys from the cycling. I have an LED grow light set to the dimmest setting possible. Temp average is 70 degrees. I also added a small AC Inf fan inside the top corner to keep the air moving (set to low). I am having less success than I was having from my smaller automated tub set ups using the same prep methods/materials up until fruiting. I am not running into Trich or molds, just not having decent fruiting. Could it be I am not cycling the fresh air enough? I know I am getting good circulation, I can see the fog venting out of my dryer vent setup.
Just looking for input..
The only thing that sounds off to me is the small fan inside the top corner. Is this one running constantly? The air would be still in my tent in between the fog cycles. The overlap with the exhaust fan sounds good, but I like to let the air rest when that one shuts off.
If that doesn't fix it, you might try raising the temperature in the room for a few days, see if it will help induce a better pinset. I remember JakeonCid said he used to bump the temps to around 80 until the pinset came in, then he could let the temps come back down to around 70.
Please keep us updated if anything works!
I am with you on the temperature.. Its tough to get my temps up, I don't live alone, and space is limited. Its really odd, I have had great success in the same living space, with the same conditions in smaller set ups. These damn things are temperamental for sure. The fans is set to come on at 100% humidity and then kick off at 95% just to simulate a breeze I guess. I have had some success in this setup, just not what I was hoping for. I may try smaller time intervals to possibly increase oxygen and remove more CO2?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] 1
#28050516 - 11/14/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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YoshiTrainer said: Shrimps, Wpoo works great!
Thanks Yoshi! I am eager to see the results
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Shrimps] 10
#28051834 - 11/14/22 10:32 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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South Africa mystery beach pan: healthy sized fruits with a bit of staining (no, I did not color them with the sharpie )
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: elpico] 2
#28052054 - 11/15/22 03:16 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Small update:
10 days after inoculation with the second petridish of my pan. cyan. "Jamaika" the jars were fully colonized:

After pasteurizing @ 60C/140F for 8 hours and letting it cool, Wpoo/Coir (and handful of straw/verm), I mixed it up with the grains and threw it into an IKEA SAMLA Box (spawnratio 1:3 (maybe a little more)). Spread it evenly out and just very lighty leveled it out by hand with a light pressure (so the soil isn't to strongly compressed). And just because I had it laying around, I made a 1mm layer of Coir/Straw which was prepped with Bukettek and a little bit dry already. Then just heavy misted it and pack it on top of my other box.



Edit: The Hpoo Bag's are still getting colonized in my styropor box ^^ going to update on those in a week maybe.
Is a toplayer with pans necessary? I just noticed, I didn't really make one ^^ I could easy pasteurize another bag over night and apply it tomorrow if needed.
Any feedback, critic or advice is greatly appreciated (first time pan growing xD)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Shrimps] 2
#28052281 - 11/15/22 07:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Looks pretty good to me, although I've never heard of anyone pasteurizing straw with the bucket tek, was under the assumption that straw required proper pasteurization but I could be wrong as I've never worked with it.
As far as top layer I didn't do one on my (only) pan grow, and it worked out just fine. You will however want to use a casing layer once it's colonized.
If it were me I probably would've done a sgfc with that big tub with the tray inside it but I'm sure good results are possible with the way you have it set up. Getting adequate FAE while maintaining humidity has proven tough for me even with 4 1" holes in a medium-size FC, likely smaller than the tub you have there (can check my recent thread if curious). I also attempted a shoebox with pans but getting the conditions right seemed nearly impossible so I tossed it after the first flush (which sucked) to focus on my bigger tubs.
I'm just wrapping up my first pan grow so I'm no expert and hopefully someone with more experience can chime in for ya.
Good luck, pans are an amazing species!!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cswizzle]
#28052425 - 11/15/22 09:20 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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My pans are not in the Box with the holes ;-) It's only the upper box. The one below are some Cubes inside 
Isn't SGFC especially for PF-Tek? Not very fond of that actually. I am more following a bit babayagas Pan in monotubes way, mixed with a bit cultivating pan cyan von asura ^^ I am just picking methods from both and adapting it to how I like to do stuff.
I only have them in the box with the lid on until I can put the casinglayer on anyway (to keep a bit a higher C02 lvl). Afterwards they come in a bigger tube with watersoaked perlite or maybe seramis to keep humidity high and without the Lid from the shoebox for more FAE.
Staw actually is similar to coir or verm, with very little nutes (plz correct me if I'm wrong). So I don't see any problem with the bucket tek for straw ^^ (Just thoughts, I may be wrong)
Thanks for you input! <3
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Shrimps]
#28052574 - 11/15/22 11:39 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Straw contaminates VERY easily. It can also be difficult to hydrate properly, which I think adds to the contam risk while trying to colonize the bulk.
Still, I'm eager to see your results, I hope this works. I think most people are shooting for around 160 degrees F for pasteurization when using straw and/or manure. I know you're using WPoo, so there are some variables. In case it goes South, I would up the pasteurization temp a bit and try again.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: elpico] 1
#28052611 - 11/15/22 12:28 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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elpico said: South Africa mystery beach pan: healthy sized fruits with a bit of staining (no, I did not color them with the sharpie )

Amazing! Almost black bruising, they must be potent.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet] 1
#28052614 - 11/15/22 12:30 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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ruawakeyet said: Straw contaminates VERY easily. It can also be difficult to hydrate properly, which I think adds to the contam risk while trying to colonize the bulk.
Still, I'm eager to see your results, I hope this works. I think most people are shooting for around 160 degrees F for pasteurization when using straw and/or manure. I know you're using WPoo, so there are some variables. In case it goes South, I would up the pasteurization temp a bit and try again.
Thanks for pointing out my error about the straw! Well, since I only used very little from the straw/coir which was used or the small layer at top, I just hope I am lucky and don't get contams from that >.< But I am optimistic until the world breaks apart... so well see Beginner mistake (hoping the mycelium will cover the straw before any bad contams xD)^^
Yeah, I have made a total of 4 extra transfers to agar, in case anything goes south. The ones on the Hpoo were sterilized ^^ so there I wont have this issue (thank god).
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Shrimps] 1
#28052895 - 11/15/22 03:01 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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still missing the mark on these, though it is only the first wave and a few have been harvested already, mostly because of what I think is from drying out ? Idk, but they'd be rotted by now if I waited. Still using an ez dial mono and am even more shocked due to the temp swings they've run by.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] 1
#28053440 - 11/15/22 07:24 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I inoculated some agar with P. Cambodginiensis spores from a sponsor and transferred the agar to jars. This is what they they look like a month later. From what I know, P. Cambodginiensis isn't a sclerotia-producing variety. Is it safe to say that I was given the wrong species?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: uninc4life2010] 1
#28053450 - 11/15/22 07:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah you got some tamps right there, still a great mushroom to fruit though.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng]
#28053452 - 11/15/22 07:30 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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How do you know that they're Tamps and not P. Mexicana?
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Tampanensis produces larger Stones
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SirPsycho]
#28053510 - 11/15/22 07:49 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said: Tampanensis produces larger Stones
Oh, cool. I didn't know that. Could I G2G this jar? I only have about 5 of the original P. Cambodginiensis jars, and I really want to keep them going since they are performing so well. This jar is outperforming all of my P. Mexicana jars by a long shot.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SirPsycho]
#28053522 - 11/15/22 07:51 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said: Yep, you can
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Yeah that looks like a good culture for stones too. Thereβs a ton in there.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: elpico]
#28054168 - 11/16/22 09:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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elpico said: South Africa mystery beach pan: healthy sized fruits with a bit of staining (no, I did not color them with the sharpie )

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