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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq] * 1
    #28037956 - 11/07/22 10:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Nice, hope you get some awesome fruits


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
    #28038032 - 11/07/22 10:55 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Nice tweeq! I did it almost the same way as you ^^ but still one step behind, mine has to colonize first. Looks great! Can't wait to see your updates!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #28038038 - 11/07/22 10:57 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: captaink]
    #28038399 - 11/07/22 03:22 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

The world record thing is phenomenal!!! Very cool VL! Congrats!! Can't wait to produce my first pans!!!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #28041444 - 11/09/22 02:57 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Tweeq said:
Been wanting to spawn earlier but today I finally did spawn this bag of Pan Bisporus mycelium that was inoculated with lc Sept 19th. (Sub is 80pct hpoo / 20pct straw, supplemented with 9 pct grains).

Spawned to mono and cased with peat/verm/caco3



thats gonna be intresting !


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 4
    #28041605 - 11/09/22 06:53 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Hi everyone,

I would like to share something about the trip quality of cyans. After researching and finding claims that pans provide a far superior experience compared to cubes, I became obsessed with growing them and trying them. I have posted some trip reports on here but to summarize, the times I consumed pans were interesting and really intense for sure, but for me they did not really tick as a far superior experience unlike the semperviva which is my favorite psychedelic experience by far.
However, I have made some chocolates a while ago containing .5g a piece of 60% wild coast 35% natalensis 5% PE and left them in the fridge for a long time. only my friends reported being quite happy with them, but I hadn't quite tried them in the right amounts/circumstances. Saturday I decided to eat one and a half (so .75g) after dinner just for fun.

I was expecting that maybe they were not active anymore since by the 1 hour mark I had pretty little going on. So I vaped some kief, and started getting some weed effects. After around 10 minutes I started feeling a come up! I saw a rustic house in the middle of a barn, and out of the chimney there was red smoke coming out and the smoke had the form of mushrooms :dancingshroom: So I thought "cool let me follow those mushrooms". As I saw myself heading in that direction, I was suddenly taken swiftly into a tunnel with beautiful radiating tiles swirling and taking me down a rabbit hole of sorts. There was this feeling of the mushroom being in front of me in some sort of spaceship looking back to check on me, and after my consent, traveling to the next adventure in the cosmos :vibin:
One particular CEV I found mind blowing: I was floating in space and there was a lot of space dust/stars with a blue/silverish color in a pink/purple space background. The dust started aggregating into a human form which pulled a mask from the dust, slowly put on the mask, and the when the mask was on, it was my face! :ohwow:
Overall it was an euphoric, high quality trip with a fantastic afterglow in the following morning. It seems mixing with natalensis gave it a more gentle/friendlier vibe than pans alone while retaining the visual qualities.

Takeaways:
1) Chocolate edibles last a long time without losing potency
2) This experience has renewed my interest in pans (just inocced some texans)
3) Mixing pans with natalensis seems to make for a better trip than pans alone

Thanks for reading

EDIT: As soon as my new batch of semps comes, I will be trying mixing semps and pans, that should be interesting :eek: or maybe even pans/semps/nats mix :awesomenod:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: odissey] * 1
    #28041775 - 11/09/22 09:30 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Cool but don't forget that you've combined it with weed, so you can't be sure what caused what :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 1
    #28041841 - 11/09/22 10:05 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Cool but don't forget that you've combined it with weed, so you can't be sure what caused what :lol:




Not to mention if you take the same exact mix 10 different times on different months you will have 10 totally different experiences depending on what is going on in your life, hormone levels, mood, how your family is doing, how your health is doing, how your job is going, how much stress you are under, how financially secure you are, how much laughing you did that day, that last movie/show you watched, the music you are listening to, etc.

It's hard to believe that anecdotes have value.  The anecdotes themselves become self fulfilling (if you believe you should see a particular thing or feel a certain way on a psychoactive substance, you are more likely to do so).

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MariaTruthSeeker] * 3
    #28041851 - 11/09/22 10:10 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

That's definitely the case. Luckily, despite these biases we can see some clear pattern in effects of different mushrooms. What may be unclear with 5 experiences, will become very clear at 50. And collectively that's what we're doing. That's why sharing and collecting reports is so important.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 2
    #28041898 - 11/09/22 10:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Cool but don't forget that you've combined it with weed, so you can't be sure what caused what :lol:



True, but I do it for most of my smaller trips and I have tripped enough to be able to discern the different vibes different species give. Pans and cubes have very different mindspaces and even physical sensations.

Regarding MariaTruthSeeker remark on self fulfiling profecies, that certainly has not been the case for me. I was expecting the best trip of my life based on several reports and information I had gathered on pans and I did not have that for any of my pans' trips. I was expecting a very friendly mushroom trip and always got a rather sinister vibe from them. I did not expect to trip at all from these chocolates and I definitely did. Once I started tripping, I expected to have the sinister vibe from pans since it was 65% pans and I did not. I did not know anything about semperviva when I tried them for the first time, and it turns out that it has been consistently my favorite psychedelic experience.
Different set settings, meh, I pretty much only trip in my dedicated meditation/tripping room and my life has been rather monotonous in the sense that I have been stuck at home since covid even after changing jobs so :shrug:

When you are talking about subjective effects on a controlled substance, anecdotal evidence is the best you have. Every scientific hypothesis starts with an observation. Since my environment is pretty much constant, I have tripped several times on different dosages and species, one can argue I act as my own control akin to a cross-over trial. You can also read the dozens of reports people have independently written on this forum to build evidence for different effects using different species. But if you are really skeptical, you can do a randomized controlled trial and share the data :awesomenod:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: odissey] * 1
    #28041917 - 11/09/22 10:56 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Fair enough! Can't argue with that.

Have you tried Bisporus as well? Can't see how that would give anyone sinister vibes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #28041947 - 11/09/22 11:08 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Fair enough! Can't argue with that.

Have you tried Bisporus as well? Can't see how that would give anyone sinister vibes.



Good that you remind me of that! I haven't :cryariver: I have tried several times to grow them, but the 2 prints I have seem to be both trich contam'ed. I guess I will innoc again today, maybe I will be fast enough to get clean myc this time

Edit: pans I have tried: wild coast, pan jambo, estero, jamaica (lower dose) all gave me a sinister feel, but top notch cev's


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: odissey] * 6
    #28042807 - 11/09/22 08:48 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I don't know, man, if there's darkness inside that hasn't been addressed, cyans will pull it to the front. Did for me. Push through that and the trips
will completely transform. From dark, cold, impersonal to something amazing. I guess it depends on what this is all about for you. For me, cyans has always
been for personal work. Would not recommend for Party Time :lol: Shit can happen.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 1
    #28042951 - 11/09/22 10:26 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

MS Pan. Jambo T1s - a couple of you have probably already seen this but I wanted to post it here.

Plate 1:

Plate 2:


Planning to send a piece from a couple or 3 of these cultures to the same LC to maximize genetic diversity. The plan is to do 6 jars so I have a quick turnaround time when/if my first attempts at this species goes tits up


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 5
    #28043028 - 11/10/22 12:20 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Well for me it was not so much that it raised issues that I struggled with in my life or that I am unconfortable with, but more the vibe feels like I am in dark territory. In comparison, semperviva brings suppressed feelings to the surface but immediately attaches an empowering motivation that you will be able to work it out and everything will be alright. In fact, the mushroom trips that had the most concrete positive impact in my life were 3 semperviva trips. The whole mindspace of semperviva is one of love, good vibes and hand holding while pans feel like you are on your own and if you are not careful you can lose your mind (I actually did once with pans and once with semps, but with semps it felt like my mind was taken in good hands so no problem :dancingshroom:). That is not to say I have not had wonderful moments on pans, hilarious even, and the afterglow is always great. But this is all personal. Someone else could have the opposite experience and claim semps are dark

How is it possible that the one "drug" evokes such ellaborate feelings like "hand-holding" and the other very similar one doesn't? My guess is the slightly different biochemical profiles exert different receptor binding dynamics at regions of the brain responsible for sense of security, parenthood, decision making etc. But we know so little about the relationship between the brain and consciousness, let alone these supercharged states, that I doubt we will have an answer soon


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: odissey]
    #28043303 - 11/10/22 07:47 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Chaps abit of advice please;

I streaked 3 plates on 22nd Oct, only got movement on one but growth is painfully slow.

Am I flogging a dead horse with this and should just start fresh or shall I give it time. My concern being if it's taking this long on agar, will take forever when go to grain:



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Potamoose] * 1
    #28043317 - 11/10/22 07:55 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I don't like the look of that at all. Definitely looks enmeshed with some sort of contamination. I would go back to spores.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] * 5
    #28043455 - 11/10/22 10:07 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Last night, I made up a tea with 1.8 grams of freshly ground, (mostly powdered), PHV. I added a Tension Tamer herbal tea for flavor and for taming tension. (Obviously) Also, I juiced 1/2 a lemon and added that as well, mainly for flavor.

Last night's conditions provided the absolute best weather possible to trip. It got down to low to mid 60s F. Light was provided by the almost full moon. The sky was partly cloudy, with a strong wind carrying the low lying clouds fast.

I knew the wind alone could ruin the setting unless I found a protected spot outside. I walked from my house after downing the tea to some woods near a park. I ended up finding a dry river bed surrounded by high banks and tall trees. The place reminded me of spooky hollow, not that I've ever been there.

I had brought a tarp and a blanket, along with water, flashlights, plenty of warm clothes, but nothing else. I left my phone at the house, as I didn't want any electronic disruptions. I set up right in the middle of this dry river bed. The ground there was damp and soft, but had a layer of leaves built up to shield me from the mud.

I lied down on my back, staring up at the sky through the tree branches as I started coming up. The come up was slow, and I remember thinking I should have taken more. Then I started wondering if my shrooms had lost potency due to their age. Eventually, that proved to not be the case.

Their was a little bit of darkness during the beginning, which is common for me when consuming PHV. (I have not yet experienced any other Pan, but Bispo is on the way!) By the time the peak started, that little bit of darkness was pushed out, and it was pure euphoria overload the rest of the time. I couldn't stop grinning no matter how hard I tried, and I sometimes had to bust out in laughter as I couldn't hold it in. Of course, there was nothing in particular I was laughing about, I just couldn't contain the feelings I was experiencing.

As the trip progressed deeper and deeper, I closed my eyes and watched the fabric of the universe reveal itself to me. I transcended time a few different moments. At one point I drifted off to a light sleep, but was still conscious and watched the energy version of myself fall asleep. I could feel the weight on my chest as my breathing slowed, it kind of felt like dying, but comfortably, but all of that happened while I watched from a 3rd person perspective. Having physical sensations while having an out of body experience at the same time was really an eye opener!

I've never experienced such a great body high as last night. My entire body was tingling and buzzing with positive energy. I think it was in part because of hyperventilating, because if you've ever experienced that body tingling sensation from hyperventilating it was very similar. I hate the body load I used to get from cubes, but this wasn't a body load. This was pure bliss.

This part was the most unique thing about last night compared to all other psychedelic trips I have taken: During my peak, the CEVs were so well organized and geometric that it caused my body to take and hold unnatural positions while lying on the ground. I wasn't conscious of it at the time, but this is what was causing me to hyperventilate. It was as if I was making maximum connection with the ground, and that grounding experience was cleansing my blood and the rest of my body. The heavy breathing felt like intentional breath work, but again, I was not making that decision, it just felt intuitive and good. I've also been seeing a lot about grounding and it's health benefits, so I don't think this was a coincidence.

It literally felt like a guided detoxifying session, similar to hot yoga, or Pilates, but the positions were all unnatural, and it wasn't about stretching or strengthening. Multiple times I found myself contorted in a strange position, and my nose started running BAD! I was unable to breathe through my nose because of all the mucous I was expelling, and that was another time I thought I was dying for a second. Instead I realized I was very much alive, but had so much snot running out of my nose it was a huge mess. My eyes were watering/crying at the same time, and I wondered if I was going to drown in my own tears and snot. The position I was in felt so good that I went right back to that position without trying to clear my nose. In that moment, I thought there was some kind of a connection to the ground through my mucous membranes in my sinuses, so I just went with it. (That sounds so stupid now, but I promise it made sense at the time!)

This was the most primal experience of my life. I felt like I had tapped into a direct link to ancient man, rediscovering lost principles or ancient knowledge. Hands down best trip so far. The bright moon combined with the low clouds racing by made the light dance all over the hollow's floor. Sometimes the wind would pick up and provide the perfect change of sound and motion of the trees. The cool weather forced me to cover up with the blanket, which setup the alternating hot/cold sensation, which was extremely enjoyable in this setting.

Also, a deer came in close, but snorted and took off when one of my movements startled it. I was kind of hoping for some more wildlife encounters, but better safe than sorry. We do have skunks around here, and that's about my only concern during Autumn. (During summer my concern would also include rattlesnakes or copperheads.)

While I'm anxious to try other Pans and exotics, this PHV did NOT disappoint! As I said above, these were the clearest, most well defined visuals I've ever had. From the time I started peaking it was nothing but blissful euphoria and love. It felt like someone was pouring a bucket of euphoria into my chest, but it was already completely full so the excess kept spilling out. I did notice this intensified when I was looking up at the moon and the stars and the sky. When I would lie on my side and look at the ground and the bank and trees, it kind of diminished.

The duration was fairly short, but I don't consider that a bad thing. I like to go deep, stay there a bit, and then come back. I consumed the tea a little after 9 PM, and I could already feel it when I reached my destination. When the peak was over, I regained my senses pretty quickly, and continued to stay there for a while longer. Eventually, I wanted to go back home so I packed up and walked back. It was only 1:40 AM when I got back.

I wanted to share the experience last night, but realized I couldn't form sentences so I waited until now. :lol: I will cross post this in the correct forum, but I wanted to share with everyone here.

I don't think I would try going that deep if I was at home or inside any kind of building. I always get the worst anxiety and vibe if I trip indoors, but being outside in nature on such a beautiful night prevented those bad vibes. I'm so glad I finally took the plunge. I've been putting it off for far too long, and now I really regret not doing it sooner. I also should have gone with a full 2 grams, but now I know for next time. Now that I have a favorite place to trip, this will become a more routine experience, and eventually I will try adding an MAOI beforehand. (Honestly, last night I wondered if harmalas could add anything to it, because I felt completely connected to the universe and nature.)

I liked the tea so much that I don't think I will ever consume the actual fruits again. I never got the slightest bit of nausea, however my bodily functions were mostly on pause or just jacked up during the peak. Getting up to urinate was difficult, at one point I threw up a little in my mouth, but it didn't start from nausea, my body just didn't know how to function. I had to fart once, and even that was difficult. :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet] * 2
    #28043583 - 11/10/22 11:32 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Cool trip bro! Glad you enjoyed! It must take balls to trip at night in the woods, alone. I could never do that. It must be hard to walk with balls the size of yours :rofl:

Jokes aside, you will definitely love the Bisporus as well, if not more.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] * 1
    #28043673 - 11/10/22 12:37 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Hindsight, thanks will bin it and start over

Ruawake, what a post that it, sounds amazing. Got me itching for the pans even more


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