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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Scotay] 1
#27950739 - 09/15/22 04:12 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Hey everyone new teapot here, trying to socialize.
Here’s the update on my “weed” Pans. LC (1tbsp of lme) inoculated with the 6th transfer.
Let me know what you think, I got to collect manure this weekend so awesome.

Have any of you grow Pan. Cint. ? First time.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Benderr] 1
#27950759 - 09/15/22 05:05 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Healthy Pan Cyan LC should look like this (2 weeks old):
 All my Pan LC (about 8 different strains) looked this. Your looks different - maybe contaminated. But I am not sure.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ekabpils] 2
#27950762 - 09/15/22 05:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Timing and steps to have isolated pan culture:

Picture taken by 29.08
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ekabpils] 9
#27951152 - 09/15/22 10:58 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Bisporus 7.8g fresh -> 0.5g dry exactly. Which puts it at astonishing 6.5% dry mass.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] 2
#27951165 - 09/15/22 11:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Adas said: Bisporus 7.8g fresh -> 0.5g dry exactly. Which puts it at astonishing 6.5% dry mass.

Yeah they don't turn into thin fragile sticks like the estero I grew, pretty sturdy stipes when dried and still recognisable as a mushroom haha. Nice Adas! Beautifull
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 8
#27951189 - 09/15/22 11:27 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Those are beauties Adas!
Ho'okipa still pushing outside and getting some size to them.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] 1
#27951250 - 09/15/22 11:56 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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YoshiTrainer said: Those are beauties Adas!
Ho'okipa still pushing outside and getting some size to them.

Also nice and fat YoshiTrainer, gorgeous caps
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ekabpils] 1
#27951463 - 09/15/22 01:59 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Benderr said: Hey everyone new teapot here, trying to socialize.
Here’s the update on my “weed” Pans. LC (1tbsp of lme) inoculated with the 6th transfer.
Let me know what you think, I got to collect manure this weekend so awesome.

Have any of you grow Pan. Cint. ? First time.
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ekabpils said: Healthy Pan Cyan LC should look like this (2 weeks old):
 All my Pan LC (about 8 different strains) looked this. Your looks different - maybe contaminated. But I am not sure.
IMO the difference between these two LC is one was stirred a lot and vigorous and the other was left alone more with an occasional swirl. No obvious indication that something is wrong that I see. The question now is have you stirred yours a lot Benderr or used a magnetic stirrer? Anyway, if you are new to LC and mushroom cultivation in general then don't go big at the beginning, either test your LC on agar or do a small batch or a few MacMerdin cakes first.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#27952247 - 09/16/22 12:40 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe you are right about your thoughts on the difference between them, Baba Yaga.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ekabpils]
#27952307 - 09/16/22 02:13 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I'm totally open to being wrong, but the way that LC is chunky and has little bits sticking to the glass makes me think it's contaminated. I've had a sneaky black spore mold in an LC that looked a lot like that before. If you put some to grains, you'll know within a few days if it's that...it will grow way too fast and make the grains look extra wet before showing black spores.
Some nice pan pics in here lately, it's making me want to try some again. I have some prints that might be too old to germinate, but I think I'm going to try and see what happens.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: hummingbird]
#27952362 - 09/16/22 04:34 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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True, haven't noticed that there were heaps of bits sticking to the glass. A few little bit can happen with clean cultures but that is a lot, saw this happening with a moldy culture as well. Needs testing for sure.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#27952491 - 09/16/22 08:09 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Pan cinctulus mycelium always looks contaminated to me, it is a weird one. Maybe it is the "stones" causing it to look weird?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] 2
#27952699 - 09/16/22 11:17 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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You are right Yosh, cinctulus does look very different compared to the other pan species. I remember that this image of cinctuls on cake mix posted by nycosmith really threw me off.
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THE MYCOSMITH said:

Anyhow, it's clearly not easy to tell if Benderr's LC is clean just by looking at it. Might be good after all and worthwhile giving it a go. Benderr, have a look at this grow by alaskappalachian.
Panaeolus Cinctulus Grow
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#27952770 - 09/16/22 12:06 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, definitely give it a chance and see what happens...or fuck around and find out or whatever.
I've personally only worked with cambo and cyan in the past, so idk much about cinctulus and it's weirdness.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#27953783 - 09/16/22 10:15 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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H bird, I’m interested in it’s “weed” like ability to grow. I heard it’s weak but it has to be one of the easier pans to fruit.
Mr. Yaga I’m a chief at cubes but total pan noob, I work in front of a hood. If it’s dirty I’m going to have to go back to the print. I transferred 6 times from spores so it should be clean.
I’ve never seen it cling to glass tho either so it might just be a quirk.
Oh yes I have been shaking the shit out of it.
Thank you for the link, I’m not using the search bar right.
So here’s my 6th transfer plate, that blue is new. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Top an bottom view of pan. cint.

Edited by Benderr (09/17/22 01:33 AM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Benderr] 1
#27954097 - 09/17/22 07:32 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Benderr said: Hey everyone new teapot here, trying to socialize.
Here’s the update on my “weed” Pans. LC (1tbsp of lme) inoculated with the 6th transfer.
Let me know what you think, I got to collect manure this weekend so awesome.

Have any of you grow Pan. Cint. ? First time.
Hi Im currently trying to breed a wild pan species that I haven’t formally identified. I don’t think it’s cinctulus because I found it on grass, but it has black spores and looks almost identical to a cinctulus. It could be pan olivaceus, or possibly fimicola, or some sort of panaeolus that hasn’t been classified yet, or a rare case of a cinctulus on grass habitat I guess. But the interesting is that the mycelium is mostly grey, not white, and it has those some dark spot (possibly future stones?) showing in your pic, so that all looks very consistent for cinctulus (or a closely related species) to me. I will try to post pics later.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Vast218] 4
#27954170 - 09/17/22 08:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Bender Welcome! I’ve grown cinctulus few times, it was even the first Pan specie I grown before trading for more exotic & potent ones... Let us know and see how it turns you will see relatively fast if it’s cinctulus myc during colonization : )

Pan cinctulus (indoor) 2017
Indoor cinctulus
Vast218 to me cinctulus are really common in the grass.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: V.L] 1
#27954228 - 09/17/22 08:54 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Those are beautiful V.L
I know there’s a bit of a debate about cinctulus habitat so I’ll keep an open mind. My mycelium looks a lot like your cinctulus on grain, but on agar it doesn’t look like anything I’ve ever seen posted on here, here’s an example:

I guess we’ll see when it fruits, cinc are typically have very thick stems like in you pics
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Vast218] 6
#27954244 - 09/17/22 09:16 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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From what I observed usually they are more thick when growing from enriched soil, horse poo like this:
Wild cinctulus in rich poting soil
and cinctulus growing in grass tend to be more thin & tall to be upper the grass to disperse their spores..
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: V.L] 4
#27954337 - 09/17/22 10:30 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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YES an unexpected opportunity to trip this evening!!!
Did a microdose yesterday, I'm going for my first bisporus trip. Decided I'm not going too high, was thinking about 1gr (again at home in bed)???
What do you guys say, yes or go up a bit because I microdosed yesterday? I'm aiming for a good time, so not to deep.
O YAAEAAAHHH THERE WE GO AGAIN  Let me know..
--- Too late, decided to go with 1gr, it's now 19:13 here in NL.. now we wait. Added a lime, didn't have a lemon.. there we go people, wish me good vibes..
Edited by 0t0lerance (09/17/22 11:16 AM)
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