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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: THE MYCOSMITH] * 1
    #27858182 - 07/11/22 03:27 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Hey 0to

Remove the insulation from sides above water level. You Will like to have colder sides than the lid so condensation happens on the sides. Condensation Will No matter happen on the coldest place which shut be the sides




Yes will do! I'll also do a 2.5gr trip tomorrow  unless my planning fails like last time. Will be my biggest dose so far, fingers crossed. I'm a bit scared, I have to admit.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 3
    #27858713 - 07/11/22 01:18 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I finished the steam pasteurizer and it works great. I haven't incorporated the auto-shutoff yet. I will need to figure that out sometime in the future (auto shutoff after 2 hours @ 165F). I did 1 gallon of casing and 2 gallons of substrate and everything worked really well and completely hands-off. Monitored with a wireless temp probe.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27858707


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
    #27858785 - 07/11/22 02:11 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Crap.. massive amount of aborts on the tray that was pinning everywhere... like 50% aborted probably due to the fact that I took the trays out as O was wrapping the containing with bubblewrap, and took my time to change the water, clean the container.. so the tray was left out in the shed for a while.. probably shoked them to abort.. a well.. this growth with the JCM FC has been a real pain in the ass with fluctuating temps in the shed. But I simply can't do this in-house..

Hopefully my fails now will pay off later. It just hurts to see hundreds of pins abort.. :facepalm3: a well added 3 layers of bubblewrap to the lids.. lets see of that works.. I really hope so..

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Nice work Hindsight, hope that solves the issues with the substrate!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
    #27858832 - 07/11/22 03:00 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Hey 0to

I cross my fingers for you get one more good flush after all that bad luck you have been thought.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: THE MYCOSMITH] * 6
    #27859611 - 07/12/22 06:48 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Hey 0to

I cross my fingers for you get one more good flush after all that bad luck you have been thought.




It's ok... coming down from the 2.5gr trip...that was so incredibly intens and challenging, at the peak I almost stopped breathing.. was traveling with intense speed.. it was totally nuts and wild. Will not go that far again... totally lost my mind. Happy I made it out alive..

Edit.. alright came down entirely now.. what a madd ride. I haven't been this deep before.. lost all sense of time and space.. noticed I was no longer able to tell who I was, the actual narrative itself broke down.. while catapulted into warp speed felt like and enternity though some wormhole stuff swirling.. saw this light at the end, which was me opening my eyes, but I didn't "see" anything as the CEVs continued with eyes wide open, tried to eat something.. prepped some apple and orange bits.. but lost total track of everything sucked into this vortex rollercoaster going faster than light.. when I had a clear moment reached to the fruit again (apparently was somewhere else now), but the fruit initiated a ride into itself.. totally losing "me" again, munching on some fruit felt like some primal thing, felt ancient. chewing while being ripped apart was not good.. had to lay down as this thing was not done with me yet.. forced myself to first swallow food because I was going down stream and felt I departed this dimention. At some point I didn't feel I could go faster than this... stretched my arms like superman, spiralling into infinity, inable to tell what was up, down.. vibrating heavily.. voice trembling and echoing.. stretching and laughing at the intensity and what I got myself into.. heard terence "Is this strong enough for yoi cowboy" at the end I felt like I needed to stop breathing and die, but reminded myself "you took drugs".. breathe... BREATHE!!!! yes, so took deep breaths.. it saw so intens.. all clear thinking was gone so you actually felt going like going madd and beïng ok with that, even when I heard things paranoia crept in.. but no longer cared about anything.. the verbal observation was gone.. which was weird.. like the internal dialogue shutting down.. "me" shut down.. took deep breaths, my breath was all I had...

but.. I'm back again.. with a big headache and felt like spending the entire day in the centrifuge of the dryer..


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 2
    #27859894 - 07/12/22 12:25 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

2.5g! :eek: I had an awful time on my first trip on pans, 2g of bispo. "Happy I made it out alive" is a good description of my feelings after, too.

I did 0.25g of bispo this weekend, and it was like a 2g trip on cubes. Pans are powerful stuff.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
    #27860078 - 07/12/22 03:34 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Bisporus has always been my favorite pan.  Good job.  That's a good size fruit.

My favorite bisporus trip was camping with my brother-in-law.  The trees told us a train was coming. That's really all I have to say



Were the trees right? That sounds awesome.

Also, probably stupid question, but would (supplemented) cow manure work for pans? I might be able to get horse manure, but cow manure is much easier for me.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ArachnidsGrip] * 3
    #27860200 - 07/12/22 05:19 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)



my first ever pan cyan finds in the wild! located in central florida. before this I had only found cubes. Now im working on learning how to grow these beauties. How successful have outdoor grows been with this species? asking because i just do not have the space to make an indoor grow with a shared living space/roommates etc...


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mickeydee]
    #27860505 - 07/12/22 09:45 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Also, probably stupid question, but would (supplemented) cow manure work for pans? I might be able to get horse manure, but cow manure is much easier for me.




Cow manure is what these grow in naturally. It’s better but you need to mix it with straw and verm etc to get the right consistency. I wish I could get cow manure from a local field. I settle for horse.

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my first ever pan cyan finds in the wild! located in central florida. before this I had only found cubes. Now im working on learning how to grow these beauties. How successful have outdoor grows been with this species? asking because i just do not have the space to make an indoor grow with a shared living space/roommates etc...




Congrats on the find! Yes you can grow them outdoors. I do. There is a pic in my signature of my pans growing outside. I do it for fun but have found yields are way better indoors with pans. Cubes are opposite- outdoor cube grows are just massive.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
    #27860802 - 07/13/22 06:14 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I have a 32 Oz jar of whole oats being colonized and it’s either pan cyans or a good cube. Can’t remember. It nearly stalled so I took some oats out and mildly shook it and now it’s growing again. So I’m looking for advice on what I should do next since I’m really bad with Cyans. I’d rather prepare for a cyan growth than a cube one. So how much of a pasteurized manure based substrate  should I get & mix with the jar? And does 1 lb of a standard casing of peat moss vermiculite and buffers work for after the substrate is colonized? I’m planning on using aluminum trays in a Martha tent. Any help is appreciated



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chefnickwbig10] * 3
    #27860821 - 07/13/22 06:41 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I doubt that jar is clean anymore if you've opened it and rummaged around.

Also you don't know what you're growing?
That irks me, sorry but I don't understand why you bother if you can't even take note of simple things like names.
It may just be a hobby but put some effort into it.

That jars has a few colors.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27860907 - 07/13/22 08:13 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I inoculated 6 different strains in 8 jars. There were 2 jars that were different than the others so I figured it would be easy to remember. I wrote down all the others. I have a freakishly good memory and have even won 3 contests with it so I don’t feel the need to write down much. This was one of the rare instances where I got confused on which 1 out of 3 possible it could be. It’s a Smurf tat, purple mystic, or Oregon pan cyan but not sure which. I also figured I’d be able to tell pretty easily based on mycelium but I can’t bc of the problems it had. I guess the pic isn’t very good. It’s all white cottony fluffy mycelium and is probably 60-70% colonized. I didn’t touch anything when I opened it and poured some grain out and it’s not infected yet. I’m just looking for some help here, not your pet peeves or things you don’t like when you don’t even know the reasoning behind. If you aren’t offering help, you can just as easily say nothing. I really don’t need another person in my life to do nothing but nag me


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chefnickwbig10] * 3
    #27860959 - 07/13/22 09:13 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I did help, you don't like the help I gave but that doesn't mean I didn't help.

You shouldn't have opened your jars regardless how you feel about it, it was wrong.

No participation awards here.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: DERRAYLD] * 3
    #27861118 - 07/13/22 11:38 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Chefnick, you better adjust your attitude around here. We are all willing to help but we dislike shitty "better-than-thou" attitudes. Uncolonized jars should never be opened.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27861195 - 07/13/22 12:51 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I’m literally in here asking for help and have to be told how my grow mistake “irks” someone. I didn’t come here to listen to someone’s judgment of me. I admit I don’t know much about growing cyans but All he had to say was “you should figure out a system so you don’t forget the name as this can become a big problem later. And don’t open the jar during colonization bc you greatly risk infection.” I get criticized all day at work so I have no problem with constructive criticism. But it does nothing beneficial to tell me how my forgetting a strain is annoying to them. Also I was able to remove some of the oats w/out contamination and was extremely careful with how I did it. That was advice given to me by another grower. I wasn’t “rummaging around.” I’m not the one with the holier than though attitude. Not exactly a great welcoming for someone new.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chefnickwbig10] * 1
    #27861256 - 07/13/22 01:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I’m literally in here asking for help and have to be told how my grow mistake “irks” someone. I didn’t come here to listen to someone’s judgment of me. I admit I don’t know much about growing cyans but All he had to say was “you should figure out a system so you don’t forget the name as this can become a big problem later. And don’t open the jar during colonization bc you greatly risk infection.” I get criticized all day at work so I have no problem with constructive criticism. But it does nothing beneficial to tell me how my forgetting a strain is annoying to them. Also I was able to remove some of the oats w/out contamination and was extremely careful with how I did it. That was advice given to me by another grower. I wasn’t “rummaging around.” I’m not the one with the holier than though attitude. Not exactly a great welcoming for someone new.




Have a look at this thread from Asura, it has many links to read about:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26524100

I'm relative new too, so I don't have the experience, but I feel this is a great link to start from.

Oh and google "New simple method (TEK) for growing Panaeolus cyanescens" it will show itself for some vid material


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
    #27861311 - 07/13/22 02:44 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I’m literally in here asking for help and have to be told how my grow mistake “irks” someone. I didn’t come here to listen to someone’s judgment of me. I admit I don’t know much about growing cyans but All he had to say was “you should figure out a system so you don’t forget the name as this can become a big problem later. And don’t open the jar during colonization bc you greatly risk infection.” I get criticized all day at work so I have no problem with constructive criticism. But it does nothing beneficial to tell me how my forgetting a strain is annoying to them. Also I was able to remove some of the oats w/out contamination and was extremely careful with how I did it. That was advice given to me by another grower. I wasn’t “rummaging around.” I’m not the one with the holier than though attitude. Not exactly a great welcoming for someone new.




Have a look at this thread from Asura, it has many links to read about:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26524100

I'm relative new too, so I don't have the experience, but I feel this is a great link to start from.

Oh and google "New simple method (TEK) for growing Panaeolus cyanescens" it will show itself for some vid material




Awesome! This is exactly the type of thing I was looking for. Really appreciate it


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chefnickwbig10] * 3
    #27862162 - 07/14/22 07:51 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Made my trip report of the 2,5gr: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27862155

If anyone is interested. First attempt at printing failed.. fruits were not mature yes, only got 3 faint prints, have now 20 caps going, I'll leave then 48h hopefully they will make for thick prints

EDIT
got 10+ prints

The green attacked 2/3 trays. today I noticed the second tray being attacked:

Notice the ill-looking fruits.. started harvesting, but decided to compost them all, didn't want to risk any of it.

I did harvest these.. a bit too early, but I didn't want them to turn out the same as the others. After harvesting retired that tray too.



So yeah, poor results. The big temp and humidity swings in the shed are just destroying pans, they turn out looking like shit.. just not working for me.



Edited by 0t0lerance (07/15/22 09:02 AM)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 1
    #27866710 - 07/17/22 07:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Can these be pan bisporus pins or is it a mislabel?



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27868395 - 07/19/22 12:16 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: found the answer


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