Home | Community | Message Board

Mycohaus
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: < First | < Back | 1242 | 1243 | 1244 | 1245 | 1246 | 1247 | 1248 | 1249 | 1250 | 1251 | 1252 | 1253 | 1254 | 1255 | 1256 | 1257 | 1258 | 1259 | 1260 | 1261 | 1262 | Next > | Last >
OfflineHindsight
Mad Scientist
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/24/21
Posts: 2,706
Last seen: 9 months, 5 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Drboomer] * 1
    #27655051 - 02/11/22 11:17 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

DrBoomer, I run a house of hydro fan and it has worked perfectly for many months. Couple of key points:
1. Use it to pressurize the air in your vaporizer container, NOT to push air out of it. It stays dry that way. In other words, you’ll have two openings in the top of your vaporizer reservoir. One of them you will connect to the hose that goes to your tent and one you will cover with a fan that blows inward, which pressurized the air in the reservoir. Because that air is pressurized, it looks for an escape to equalize and that causes the air to flow through your hose into the tent.
2. Get a fan speed controller. I use the 80mm fan (not the 120mm fan), and have it turned all the way down to lowest setting. I found the higher I turn the fan up, the less fog I get. I mentioned that before and someone said they have the opposite experience so YMMV but having the speed controller is nice to fine tune things.
3. I found the less volume of air in your vaporizer chamber, the better. More air volume allows the vaporizer air to attach to the surfaces and turn back into liquid. You want as much fog to get into the tent as possible, not turn back to liquid. I started with a big reservoir but it didn’t work well for the above reason so I switched to using a tiny 5 gallon reservoir and it works much better. I use an automatic top off pump system to keep it full of water, feeding it from a separate dedicated water tank. And I find higher water levels in your fogger reservoir to be best for the same reason (less air space = less opportunity for the fog to condense on surfaces so you get more in the tent”
4. Larger hose is better. I run 4” dryer or HVAC duct. 6” would be great too. Use large reusable zip ties and HVAC duct flanges.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDrboomer
The lord magnificent
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 09/22/19
Posts: 957
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
    #27655278 - 02/11/22 02:22 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Sweet thank you


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePsiloPsychIn
PsiloPsychIn
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 06/17/14
Posts: 8,182
Loc: up north
Last seen: 2 days, 20 hours
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Drboomer]
    #27655951 - 02/12/22 02:45 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

The re casing the Jambos does not seem to have helped. I’ll start again and see if I can find a better culture. It produces a fair number of pins in clusters, but the go very slow and most get to only about a 1/8-1/4 inch high!
I pretty much never worry about yield but I measured the Wild Coast and Bunnell.
From one myco quart into the substrate filling those 10x17 sterilelite stationary boxes the wild coast put out 20 grams and the Bunnell about 18. Is that “ok”?


--------------------
What are they saying? Listen carefully, it might be something you need to hear...





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBaba Yaga
♥ coir grower

Registered: 09/13/20
Posts: 3,958
Loc: Hyperspace Chicken Coop
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #27655966 - 02/12/22 03:10 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

That sounds very OK to me. I only do 1st flush and the best performing tubs are yielding 15-20g dry from 1 quart. Good tubs for me are 10-15g and they
would probably go up to 15-20g as well if I'd wait for a second flush.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePsiloPsychIn
PsiloPsychIn
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 06/17/14
Posts: 8,182
Loc: up north
Last seen: 2 days, 20 hours
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 3
    #27655979 - 02/12/22 03:40 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Thanks Baba Yaga
I think I was greedy and went for three flushes with the Bunnel (but recall I lost 1/4 of the tray to trich surgery). I did two flushes with the Wild Coast and it is in there thinking about a third but looking tired. One flush is typical for me if I have more trays waiting to get into the fruiting chamber. I’m going to try your mono soon and see what that does - it would be nice not to have a three tray maximum due to space issues in the fruiting chamber …

I did sort of a sloppy version of your mono tub tek when I got ahead of myself with pan spawn…

This is Nec-D in one of those totes meant to slide under a bed - about 4-5 inches tall. Then I set a monotub upside down on the top to give it some headroom and something to draw FAE in from the poor seal along the edges and out through the long side holes …





--------------------
What are they saying? Listen carefully, it might be something you need to hear...





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBaba Yaga
♥ coir grower

Registered: 09/13/20
Posts: 3,958
Loc: Hyperspace Chicken Coop
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #27655984 - 02/12/22 03:57 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Thanks for posting a tub grow, I'd be happy with those NecDs. Is this MS?

What is the grassy stuff at the bottom of the first photo.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAdas
Lonely Dreamer
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/22/16
Posts: 5,270
Loc: Central EU
Last seen: 1 hour, 54 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #27656210 - 02/12/22 10:19 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Quote:

PsiloPsychIn said:
The re casing the Jambos does not seem to have helped. I’ll start again and see if I can find a better culture. It produces a fair number of pins in clusters, but the go very slow and most get to only about a 1/8-1/4 inch high!
I pretty much never worry about yield but I measured the Wild Coast and Bunnell.
From one myco quart into the substrate filling those 10x17 sterilelite stationary boxes the wild coast put out 20 grams and the Bunnell about 18. Is that “ok”?




Sounds totally fine. I think my highest yield was from about 500ml of grain spawned to about 500ml of substrate, the yield was 15g. Very very decent.


Edited by Adas (02/12/22 10:21 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblerazero
I'm a teapot


Registered: 12/23/08
Posts: 96
Loc: Jamaica
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 3
    #27656645 - 02/12/22 05:37 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)



--------------------
He who does not research has nothing to teach.


Edited by razero (06/19/23 03:40 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleruawakeyet
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/03/21
Posts: 1,862
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: razero]
    #27656711 - 02/12/22 06:41 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Beautiful fruits! Do you usually have a high tolerance?

Hindsight had a culture of Nec-D that he said was weak. They were really pretty fruits as well. He had a different culture of the same Nec-D that he said was wicked strong from around the same time. Sounded like they were superpans!

Hindsight, I assume those two cultures came from the same print, or no?

Razero, I hope your other culture makes up for these.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblerazero
I'm a teapot


Registered: 12/23/08
Posts: 96
Loc: Jamaica
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet]
    #27656971 - 02/13/22 01:03 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Potency issue for sure. I would need to eat 5g of these pan trops for a trip. Threw away all clones and jars of from this batch.


--------------------
He who does not research has nothing to teach.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAdas
Lonely Dreamer
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/22/16
Posts: 5,270
Loc: Central EU
Last seen: 1 hour, 54 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: razero]
    #27657285 - 02/13/22 09:56 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Wow I think you just got super unlucky with them. It's not common with pans at all.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblerazero
I'm a teapot


Registered: 12/23/08
Posts: 96
Loc: Jamaica
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27657320 - 02/13/22 10:29 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

For sure Adas. Luckily I have two different selections about to pin so not feeling too bad about it.


--------------------
He who does not research has nothing to teach.


Edited by razero (02/13/22 10:38 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHindsight
Mad Scientist
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/24/21
Posts: 2,706
Last seen: 9 months, 5 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: razero] * 1
    #27657340 - 02/13/22 10:45 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Ruawake - Yes same print. My friend regularly takes 4g of the white NecD fruits and trips well but not out of this world. He does 2g of the regular NecD fruits and has level 4-5 trips. I get Level 4 trips off the regular NecD fruits from just 1g. I have a low tolerance though. I assume it’s just different cultures. I grow them all the same way.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleruawakeyet
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/03/21
Posts: 1,862
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] * 1
    #27657376 - 02/13/22 11:15 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Hindsight, that's what I figured.

It's crazy how crucial the culture selection is, and it's somewhat just luck of the draw. I had a culture that only grew mutants, and I've seen Psilo experience the same thing. Now two documented cases of weak cultures.

Just goes to show how important it is to take as many transfers as you can in order to play the odds.

After a clone culture sectored out on agar, I took one of each and eventually fruited them. One of them wouldn't even form knots and was slow to colonize, while one of them ended up producing some monsters.

I'm sure it's a matter of time before I find an impotent culture as well.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHindsight
Mad Scientist
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/24/21
Posts: 2,706
Last seen: 9 months, 5 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ruawakeyet] * 1
    #27657728 - 02/13/22 04:37 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Yup - you should see all the Natalensis tubs I grew all off of two prints. Many different cultures. 20-something tubs and insane variability between them all.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleekabpils
Exploring Exotics
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/20/21
Posts: 167
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] * 2
    #27658232 - 02/14/22 03:38 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Working with the cultures:


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejcm4620
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/26/19
Posts: 6,700
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ekabpils] * 9
    #27658327 - 02/14/22 07:53 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

hey whats up guys loooooong time no talk i hope everyone is doin ok. im still workin on gettin back up and growin just been kinda takin it easy after all the crap i had to go thru with my brother. i just wanted to c how yall have been lately


--------------------
PANAEOLUS FRUITING MADE SIMPLE



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHindsight
Mad Scientist
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/24/21
Posts: 2,706
Last seen: 9 months, 5 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620] * 1
    #27658354 - 02/14/22 08:21 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Good here - just got back in town and found my first tub of Bisporus fruiting. Will post a pic when the main flush is in.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejomanda1990
Ewewazos
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/15/18
Posts: 689
Loc: Argentina Flag
Last seen: 9 days, 8 hours
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
    #27658372 - 02/14/22 08:38 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Hi JCM! Good to see you're back and hope that things become better soon.

I'm building my first JCM-style fruiting chamber and will be using it for some exotics in upcoming months, including a few Pan species. Really excited to go down this new path


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejcm4620
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/26/19
Posts: 6,700
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jomanda1990] * 1
    #27658405 - 02/14/22 09:30 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

sweeet cant wait to c it👍👍👍


--------------------
PANAEOLUS FRUITING MADE SIMPLE



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < First | < Back | 1242 | 1243 | 1244 | 1245 | 1246 | 1247 | 1248 | 1249 | 1250 | 1251 | 1252 | 1253 | 1254 | 1255 | 1256 | 1257 | 1258 | 1259 | 1260 | 1261 | 1262 | Next > | Last >

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* The official Psilocybe natalensis thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 515 516 )
Hillbillyjohn 328,243 10,314 01/29/24 04:30 PM
by NotFromGeorgia
* Official Misc EXOTIC Thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 132 133 )
Jakeoncid419 110,100 2,651 01/29/24 04:42 PM
by EniQma
* Rye-Z-Morph Bag for Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens? rob_531 4,313 12 01/10/05 12:33 PM
by agar
* Copelandia "Pan" Cyanescens sancho 4,962 6 09/07/07 10:00 AM
by suave
* Re: look at these copelandia cyanescens they are beautiful Anonymous 5,161 2 12/25/99 07:16 AM
by sean123
* which tek for copelandia cyanescens (spore print)? FfF 7,484 10 08/26/04 05:44 AM
by hawksapprentice
* Hawaiian Copelandia Grow Kit - how much more difficult are they? GabrielKnight 8,125 5 01/03/05 04:59 PM
by ticktock
* Preparing jars for Copelandia? PawPaw 1,195 14 04/02/05 01:11 PM
by PawPaw

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
924,118 topic views. 44 members, 306 guests and 40 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.037 seconds spending 0.015 seconds on 13 queries.