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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rockyfungus]
#27632028 - 01/25/22 11:15 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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When you say six failed casings, how do you know that the contamination grew from the casing and not the substrate or grains? What are you using for your pasteurization and do you like it? I screwed around with a sous vide for a while but didn't really like it - I loved the Instapot set and forget. But my last four trays in a row triched out on me. The trich came several days after casing and putting into the tent but I haven't wanted to blame the casing because peat+verm has no nutrition value for trich to feed on.... as far as I know. I've just assumed my issues are due to contaminated grain but there are still a lot of variables to sort through.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
#27632068 - 01/25/22 11:44 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Same story. I mean if it turns to beautiful marshmellows and doesn't smell off..I assumed my casing. Everything went bad. I used the casing for multiple projects. Not saying my spawn is perfect but I tend to have great results and fail before grain if triched.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
#27632093 - 01/25/22 12:04 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Ok got you. What are you doing for pasteurization lately, that you like?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] 2
#27632145 - 01/25/22 12:43 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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I was chatting with Baba Yaga this morning and I asked if he knew of the piano music piece Baba Yaga.
I was reminded of how brilliant this is:
-------------------- What are they saying? Listen carefully, it might be something you need to hear...
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] 5
#27632159 - 01/25/22 12:55 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Fourth flush of NecD. Going to finally retire this tray
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
#27632275 - 01/25/22 02:30 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Noice! How's the potency and effect profile? Any different from Cyans?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] 1
#27632287 - 01/25/22 02:40 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Hindsight said: Ok got you. What are you doing for pasteurization lately, that you like?
Cold lime and making sure it's all submerged.
Love me some classical music, listened to Holst the other day. Brings me back in the day of taking an "easy" classical music class and realizing we had to recognize songs based on 10 seconds.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
#27632294 - 01/25/22 02:47 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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Adas said: Noice! How's the potency and effect profile? Any different from Cyans?
They are potent... I haven't done enough pans to compare them to other pans though (except the white NecDs I grew and these non-white ones are much, much stronger). Half a gram would have been great for me but it felt so good I decided to double it up to 1g and it made the trip difficult. I'm pretty sensitive to psilocybin though. Visuals were great - the fallen leaves looked like waves in an ocean all moving in different directions, my backpack was breathing, and the CEVs were very tight, condensed, and full geometric patterns. Not quite as much body load, but very susceptible to changing emotion. They also lasted way longer than normal. My body processes substances slowly so there's something to be said for that but even so, I normally only trip 5-6 hours and while the heavy part wore off after about 5 hours, I stayed at about 30% trip for another 7 hours after that and had a tough time sleeping 12 hours after I started (noon to midnight). Alcohol probably would have helped the latter but I quit drinking a little while ago.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight]
#27632307 - 01/25/22 03:10 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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That's pretty crazy. My friend said that they take a looong time to kick in and that it's a whole different beast. But he's taken 3.5g of them before, which I can't even imagine
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] 1
#27632459 - 01/25/22 04:45 PM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Oh they came on quick. 15-20 mins tops, for all of us.
I couldn't imagine taking 3.5g. My friends took 2g or 2.5g (forget which) of BVI last weekend and when it fully hit, they said they couldn't see for 15 minutes. Had to sit and wait for their brain to be able to process vision in reality again.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] 5
#27632690 - 01/25/22 07:06 PM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Two down and two to go

I spotted the mean green growing in my Bunnell tray also. Like the Nec-D, I did surgery on the tray (cutting out roughly 1/4 at one corner). Fortunately (I hope) the trich seemed to be only in one area at the corner.
I still have a clean Jambo tray and a clean wild coast tray. Here's hoping they are clean and not hiding trich somewhere.
cross your fingers and toes for me. I foolishly thought my return to pan cultivation would be uneventful. I'll "nock" up some more jars of millet and try again.
 If you think about it, our little mycofriends encounter obstacles all the time out there in the real world and they just keep going... send out a search party, colonize something else, sporulate to the wind and find another home with fewer bacteria or bugs they are persistent, creative, and resilient - we should listen and be that way too.
-------------------- What are they saying? Listen carefully, it might be something you need to hear...
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] 1
#27632937 - 01/25/22 09:52 PM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Nocd my first pan cakes today equal parts grain, coir, corncob, and compost. Mostly composted straw and Spent substrate with steer manure.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Drboomer]
#27633187 - 01/26/22 02:21 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Anybody else doing "Wild Coast"? They've colonized my casing layer, even though the mycelium was so thin I thought the tub had stalled. I re-applied a light layer, making sure to really hose it down good. My FAE holes are perfectly at surface-level this time to allow the CO2 to flow easily.
BTW, that "Central FL" minitub that everyone (including myself) thought was bacterial but was actually just really bad windburn is still going strong, still those tiny pinhead caps though. Id say they're aborts. except they continue to grow even after hitting the lid! Widest cap is maybe 8mm. At least they're not turning dark blue and dying... just wind-haters I suppose. They'll do the same thing even if I just use the lid to lightly fan! They like to side/bottom-pin pretty good too. (I thought panaeolus were mostly top-flushers?)
Can't wait to try all the new pans everyone's sent me lately! Very excited and grateful. Still looking for olivaceas, trops, cincts, africanis and cambodginensis too if anyone's got spores of those available... I've got plenty to trade if necessary, just shoot me a PM (fully aware pan. cinctulus aren't really a crowd favorite, but they interest me nonetheless). I never find anything but panaeolina when I go out...
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Drboomer] 3
#27633190 - 01/26/22 02:23 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Hallo i started reading this thread last Christmas after i bought a grow Kit with panaeolus tropicalis. All I have grown is grown with mycelium clon from the Kit. So please note the difference in the grows with same gen.
The kit
 
First fruiting chamber

New fruiting chamber

The Mac' Merdin pan cake
 
Pure straw

The First bulk grow was freaks

2nd flush was mini's

The same a day older

Then this showed up

The day after

And next fuld flush
 
And her som radom shots
  
   
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: THE MYCOSMITH]
#27633199 - 01/26/22 02:59 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Artemisia_Ale said: Anybody else doing "Wild Coast"? They've colonized my casing layer, even though the mycelium was so thin I thought the tub had stalled. I re-applied a light layer, making sure to really hose it down good. My FAE holes are perfectly at surface-level this time to allow the CO2 to flow easily.
BTW, that "Central FL" minitub that everyone (including myself) thought was bacterial but was actually just really bad windburn is still going strong, still those tiny pinhead caps though. Id say they're aborts. except they continue to grow even after hitting the lid! Widest cap is maybe 8mm. At least they're not turning dark blue and dying... just wind-haters I suppose. They'll do the same thing even if I just use the lid to lightly fan! They like to side/bottom-pin pretty good too. (I thought panaeolus were mostly top-flushers?)
Can't wait to try all the new pans everyone's sent me lately! Very excited and grateful. Still looking for olivaceas, trops, cincts, africanis and cambodginensis too if anyone's got spores of those available... I've got plenty to trade if necessary, just shoot me a PM (fully aware pan. cinctulus aren't really a crowd favorite, but they interest me nonetheless). I never find anything but panaeolina when I go out...
I've only grown the red spored wild coast that asura sent me, got a bunch of plates of it running atm. I can't say I had any trouble with the casing getting colonised though.
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THE MYCOSMITH said: Hallo i started reading this thread last Christmas after i bought a grow Kit with panaeolus tropicalis. All I have grown is grown with mycelium clon from the Kit. So please note the difference in the grows with same gen.
That's a nice beefy fruit on that pan-cake!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: coversall]
#27633215 - 01/26/22 03:29 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Hey guys is this blobing normal for pans? They are cfls about to Spawn them, I'm thinking to eat Tyr blobs should I? 😅
Edited by EnDelfisE (01/26/22 03:29 AM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: coversall] 1
#27633220 - 01/26/22 03:36 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Thanks Hope i Can join the club. 
And Thanks to All of you.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: THE MYCOSMITH]
#27633239 - 01/26/22 04:30 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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EnDelfisE said: Hey guys is this blobing normal for pans? They are cfls about to Spawn them, I'm thinking to eat Tyr blobs should I? 😅

Wow, those are some very ncie stones! I thought it was Cinctulus at first!
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THE MYCOSMITH said: Thanks Hope i Can join the club. 
And Thanks to All of you.
Damn, what a sexy fruit!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EnDelfisE]
#27633241 - 01/26/22 04:35 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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Hey endelfise If it is panaeolus subbalteatus Then it is normal. But other pan's Can do it as well. Have the glass stand in a hot space i think that Can trick it. Look at the bottom of this glas ther is a blue stone on My pan. Trop. That stod a littel hot under colonization.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: THE MYCOSMITH]
#27633286 - 01/26/22 05:58 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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THE MYCOSMITH said: Hey endelfise If it is panaeolus subbalteatus Then it is normal. But other pan's Can do it as well. Have the glass stand in a hot space i think that Can trick it. Look at the bottom of this glas ther is a blue stone on My pan. Trop. That stod a littel hot under colonization. 
Ohhh thank you! The jars were heated directly ( from distance) by an air conditioner at 22-23 Celsius, I guess it's fine to eat and Spawn them
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