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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: elpico]
#27578355 - 12/12/21 08:14 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks a lot my man! This is what I needed to know. I'm gonna recase and try to keep them wet as hell!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] 5
#27578794 - 12/12/21 02:18 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Clone C1T5 h-manure/compost/coir @ 25/25/50, spawn ratio 1:2.5, fully colonized in 5 days, fruited straight after full colonization, day 5 of fruiting

Clone C5T4 h-manure/compost/coir @ 25/25/50, spawn ratio 1:2.5, fully colonized in 5 days, fruited straight after full colonization, day 5 of fruiting

Gave both a heavy soak to support the pin set.
As said before both tubs had developed lots of side knotting early on but it seems like the knots have stopped growing for now.

Got the C1T5 clone in a tub which I fruited @ spawn with a 0.5" top layer. This one is 98% colonized now after 5 days and started to knot up a bit. The interesting thing is that the knots are appearing at the interface between main substrate / top layer and above. Will be casing this one tomorrow.
C1T5 h-manure/coir @ 50/50, spawn ratio 1:3, fruited @ spawn, day 5 of fruiting

The same thing happened before with another MS tub I tried that way and which turned out great. Let's see how the clone performs, might cut down time to first fruits a bit.
Put all clones to 100% coir as well, a couple of tiny tubs each. They are a bit behind the more nutritious subs.
C1T5 coir @ 100, spawn ratio 1:2, day 6 of colonizing
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#27578995 - 12/12/21 05:52 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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@Baba I don't think my substrate surface coverage has ever looked that even on anything I've grown. That mycelium is definitely happy on that substrate.
Speaking of substrate, I have been finding a lot of seeds in my pasteurized substrate. I have traced them down to the chopped straw I bought. Pic below shows some hydrated and some unhydrated seeds. About the size of oat seeds. I'm wondering if having these uncolonized, hydrated grains in my sub is inviting contamination and that may explain a lot of less than stellar trays. Have you guys experienced this? I'm trying to decide if I should somehow sift these out of the straw prior to pasteurization, or if I should just go back to my previous method of shredding my own straw from a seed-free source. I think it's time I tried coir+manure. Baba have you found much of a difference between manure/coir vs manure/coir/compost? Also, did you ever use straw? I can't recall.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] 2
#27579143 - 12/12/21 07:31 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’m pretty sure with coir having seeds like that can be a problem, but with pans the whole sub is nutrients so it shouldn’t matter as long as it’s pasteurized.
I’ve been seeing quite a bit of sprouts from my coir lately, idk if it’s quality control or what but it’s not great.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#27579464 - 12/13/21 12:43 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pasteurization generally fixes that. I've spawned some jars that have had uncolonized grains in them before. The Actinomyces always seems to take over them, so molds can't get to it. That's just my observation tho. I also tend to let my sub sit for a couple of weeks before I use it so the bacteria can build up.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] 7
#27579551 - 12/13/21 04:24 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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copelandia weza-ingeli
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cambocyan]
#27579552 - 12/13/21 04:28 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice and big! Is that Cambo?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cambocyan]
#27579632 - 12/13/21 07:21 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice! I like how some of the color remains even at full maturity.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
#27579637 - 12/13/21 07:28 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the replies on the grains. I'm still a bit nervous about it though - I mean, if we pasteurized our grain jars instead of sterilized them, they would definitely contaminate. I don't see why it would be any different in a substrate that has been pasteurized. Maybe the only difference is that pans fully colonize a substrate in just 3-5 days instead of ~14 days for grain jars, and that speed might make it difficult for (bad) bacteria to take hold but that's just me guessing at this point.
How many of you are using coir in place of straw with good success? I know Baba does, and Adas I think I saw you use manure/sawdust exclusively for all your grows (cubes, pans and otherwise). I have plenty of HWFP so may try those as well as coir.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hindsight] 2
#27579680 - 12/13/21 08:18 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because grain jars are grains only. But the same organisms that eat the grain don't necessarily devour the straw the same way. Yes I add sawdust.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
#27580026 - 12/13/21 01:07 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
cambocyan said: copelandia weza-ingeli

Nice one cambocyan, your grows in the small trays have something aesthetically pleasing, something along the line of Japanese bonsai art.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 3
#27580213 - 12/13/21 04:12 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just finished casing all the remaining tubs with the first 3 clones. I hope I can get them all pushed through before Christmas so I can set the tubs up with the remaining 3 clones before I leave for the family gathering.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 5
#27580728 - 12/14/21 01:52 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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These are with 10 hours difference between each photo. Pan Jambos. Really digging this one
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: odissey] 1
#27580763 - 12/14/21 03:23 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well guys the bisporus grow is overall a fail tbh. I'm happy that i managed to grow some and cross it from the species list but the grow itself isn't really worth it. It's been a month of fruiting or so and i only got dwarfs as tall as 2 cm, managed to harvest 1.75g fresh which turned into 0.1g dry and today i harvested another 0.6g fresh. I might get another 1g fresh max(i hope) by the looks of what i have.
Keeping the jcm running a whole month for 0.1 of pans isn't worth my electricity tbh. Also 2 of my trays never fruited anything but aborting pins. Just today i saw that the trays are pooling yellow metabolites so i suspect some contams in the near future. I'm thinking of putting the trays in the mini-monos where i grew cambos last time, maybe they'll fruit in there maybe not who knows but it's not really worth it to keep the jcm running.
Maybe with another culture, maybe with more grain/flour, for sure i'll give them another try but not in the near future i also have other things to focus on.
This is the best they got:

In other news my V-teks are almost fully colonized at the surface, the cake itself still have more to colonize, i think they're half-done overall, it' only been one month so they don't hurry, i think they'll be ready after nye so the whole V-tek pans will be a new year resolution for me i guess. The tupac plate from where i started this v-teks have been knotting but not pinning, i still find this a good thing because i never had pans knot/pin on agar before. I'll keep you guys updated with the V-teks and i think i'll try again some spores to find a good culture and do new V-teks but god knows when i'll have some time for some agar work, i'll try to find some asap tho.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MandalaMind]
#27580772 - 12/14/21 03:54 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mandala, that still looks better than anything I've ever had. Outdoor Bisporus for the win.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] 1
#27580970 - 12/14/21 10:01 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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So this just happened…
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#27581035 - 12/14/21 10:41 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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What’s all that debris in the second plate??
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#27581050 - 12/14/21 10:59 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's the same plate from behind. But I'm wondering, too
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Regis]
#27581061 - 12/14/21 11:10 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grainsoak/straw agar to speed up the jump off maybe??
Looks like the myc likes whatever it is.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: odissey]
#27581124 - 12/14/21 12:16 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
odissey said: These are with 10 hours difference between each photo. Pan Jambos. Really digging this one

They are looking awesome with their dark caps and light stems.
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