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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23816216 - 11/09/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Holy shit man, that could spin you out of control...hell of a way to be a soldier D! That's some really scary shit brotha...


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23816280 - 11/09/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

sure thing FriedEgg, so far its working great..its transferred to agar and is out growing bacteria now..so ill have a clean transfer soon


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: funkymonk22]
    #23822139 - 11/11/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Time for the second transfer, my first transfer still showing un-uniform growth and looks weird, with a lot of clear metabolites


Ignore the side growth on the first pics, the wedge slid..


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23823298 - 11/11/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Holy shit.

Pan fluff is dense as hell, even my scalpel had a hard time cutting through it.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23833216 - 11/14/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've made a few more transfers on my agar.  Can I get a couple of pics of what it should look like when it's ready to transfer to grain?

I'm guessing the easiest way is to transfer to grain.  Or, would transfer to a BRF/manure cake be easier?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bernard]
    #23833594 - 11/14/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've made a few more transfers on my agar.  Can I get a couple of pics of what it should look like when it's ready to transfer to grain?

I'm guessing the easiest way is to transfer to grain.  Or, would transfer to a BRF/manure cake be easier?




I grew pan cyans on standard recipe BRF cakes no problem then spawned them to poo and hay

might not be the best way but it was easy and worked very well


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gardenstate]
    #23833667 - 11/14/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What is "hay"

I assume grass clippings from my lawn won't do it... lots of cow fields/ "hay bails" around here. Just pull some from a bail, and use that?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23833699 - 11/14/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

agar to pf-tek cakes are impractical, you'd wanna make a LI first if you want agar -> cakes to be feasable.
I'd just do agar to grains and spawn to bulk!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: spacechildo]
    #23834472 - 11/15/16 04:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid::thumbup:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23839202 - 11/16/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yeah I had a similar question as that one guy lol

in your guys experience, which substrate is best for the colonized agar to colonize in a quart jar? (When I say best I mean based on speed of colonization as well as quality and mass of fruits)

I was going to use BRF mixed with Hpoo but was also considering WBS mixed with some Hpoo


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psylosis]
    #23839378 - 11/16/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't get what you mean? I wouldn't bottle tek these and grow from a sub in quart jars. Either go with MacMerdins tek for half pint jars if you wanna fruit cakes. If not just go agar to grain and spawn to poo/Verm.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23841761 - 11/17/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

hey, everybody. i had an idea and i was wondering if any one else thinks it might have any validity. i notice that overlay of the casing layer winds up being a problem for a lot of growers. i know that there is an effective method for preventing this by consolidating your substrate for 3-5 days but i have not seen an effective method for dealing with it once it happens. after seeing a recent thread where this was an issue i got to thinking something. could it be possible that you could flip the substrate over and recase it and try to fruit off the bottom which would then be the top? my understanding of the situation is that the cellular structure of the mycelium that consumes the casing layer isn't conducive to fruiting but the surface of the mycelium on the bottom should be unaffected by that. this is just speculation on my part so i would be curious to hear others think.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Panarchist]
    #23841920 - 11/17/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

there's only one way to find out!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #23842739 - 11/17/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

okay so can you explain what process is involved in going from "agar to grain"

I was planning on using the "tiger drop" method of transferring the colonized agar to quart jars of WBS or BRF + Hpoo, and then after that spawning the colonized substrate to hpoo/verm/gypsum/straw

are you saying I can just skip jars and throw the colonized agar in some bulk substrate?

So lets say I used WBS should I mix in some Hpoo or is that unnecessary?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psylosis]
    #23842791 - 11/17/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You can also use LI (liquid inoculate, search it up) to grain then > Bulk substrate.

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are you saying I can just skip jars and throw the colonized agar in some bulk substrate?



I wouldn't recommend throwing agar to Hpoo, it doesn't even have as much inoculation points as grains have, not as much nutes too, remember that most of the nutes come from the grain, not the bulk.

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So lets say I used WBS should I mix in some Hpoo or is that unnecessary?



And ye you should mix the colonised WBS into Hpoo


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23842860 - 11/17/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

tiger drop to sterilized grains and when you have a good amount of clean grain colonized spawn to hpoo/verm


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #23844045 - 11/18/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #23844250 - 11/18/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

nice! the caps on the pins look really healthy outside like that.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23845604 - 11/18/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks man, checked them after work and this is what i found


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psylosis]
    #23845645 - 11/18/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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okay so can you explain what process is involved in going from "agar to grain"

I was planning on using the "tiger drop" method of transferring the colonized agar to quart jars of WBS or BRF + Hpoo, and then after that spawning the colonized substrate to hpoo/verm/gypsum/straw

are you saying I can just skip jars and throw the colonized agar in some bulk substrate?

So lets say I used WBS should I mix in some Hpoo or is that unnecessary?




agar to grain is as you say "tiger dropping" or cutting wedges of the colonzied agar and drop them in a jar of sterilized grains (do this work inside a SAB ofcourse)
agar to brf cakes are no good IMO, its really slow growing, you cant shake cakes like you can do with grains.
so if you wanna do brf+manure cakes dont bother with agar, or make LI of the agar first.

grain spawn should always be spawned to bulk substrate (manure,straw etc), brf+manure cakes I wouldnt bother spawning, just fruit them as cakes when they're done.

dont skip grain and go agar -> bulk substrate.

if you do wbs, just let them colonize and then spawn them to manure or another bulk substrate.
dont add manure or other bulk substrate to your grains.

hope that cleared some stuff up, if not just ask again :cheers:


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